PYP: League of Legends Mafia - Page 90

On December 03 2013 12:54 Oatsmaster wrote:

so how does this help town? Lets say everyone but vet/dt/medic's claim and there is suddenly huge kp somewhere and stuff. How do you know scum didnt fakeclaim something, YOU DONT KNOW JACK SHIT. And all it does is that it outs our blues so easy shots for scum.

On December 03 2013 09:05 LSB wrote:

I have read the rules, in fact I think you should go over the rules and abilities too as well as think for a bit before critiquing a plan.

What mass claims seeks to accomplish is twofold.

1) Firstly to confirm claims and locations of dangerous roles. For example my role can potentially be dangerous if I abuse it too much. A massclaim allows me to verify that I hold onto the role. We can verify this threefold. First of all we can look at the position on the list, that is a piece of public information. Second of all we can compare how much damage people took. For example if I lied about my damage and instead say I did 800 damage each, people would easily be able to tell. Tonight when I verify my role people will be able to verify how much damage I do also. Thirdly there are tracker roles so we can verify claims that way

2) To check the abilities of said dangerous roles and make sure they are not abused. The classic example is my role. If I use it only to verify the fact that I have the role, it is only a few instance of 50 damage. However if I did not claim and just spent my time running around laughing like an idiot, I could easily do 250 damage a night. We are significantly checking mafia KP.

Why we cannot accomplish these two objectives without a mass claim.

This is because there are roles that augment anothers power. My role is very meaningless by itself. But if you add on abilities that allow me to do more damage than usual, suddenly my damage is multiplied by a ton. Without a mass role claim mafia can easily hide a huge amount of damage through disruptive roles and agumenting them confusing the town. We need to know what we are facing, and who is controlling what to account for that.

Likewise without a role claim people could use their abilities with no fear, allowing mafia to have unchecked power. There is a huge accusation on Kurumi atm. What if Kurumi did not claim at all? and instead sat alone at night killing Koshi? This would be a serious problem and we would have no idea who was doing so much damage to an important role.

On December 01 2013 22:57 Oatsmaster wrote:

lol what?