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ticklishmusic:
I spent the last couple days researching my hunch that Rayn was scum, but he seems okay based on past games (apart from not calling town absolute shit this game).
On December 03 2013 16:08 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 08:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ticklishmusic - Elaborate on your earlier scumread on me and why did it change. Right the only thing in this game you have done is that you claimed the have had a scumread on the towniest guy in thread, didn't explian it ever and then retracted from it. In addition to this, who do you think is scum now? A bit late to reply, but anywho... I'm a little iffy on you anointing yourself the towniest person here. But you're generally being abrasive like the other games you played as townie, so seems about right (now anyways). 
On December 03 2013 16:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
i honestly dont remember 100% why i had the scumread on you so early on, and i am too lazy to really go back and figure out exactly why. i think it was because you accused like half the thread early on, asked for some opinions, agreed/disagreed without elaborating much.
okay im going to bed... as soon my damn archer tower finishes in clash of clans.
This is basically everything he has done in this game.
He says he had a hunch on me being scum, and then spent the last couple of days following that hunch, which lead him to my old games. However:
- He doesn't even remember why he had a scumread on me
- He doesn't seem to have a real meta-read on me because he can't tell why my behavior as scum is different than as town
Now does this sound like he has spent the last couple of days getting a better read on me? To me it does seem like an excuse to not have participated at all.
Then he says he reads people's past games before he gives judgement on them. Andddd after that he agrees on a scumread on kushmasta while many people have said this is what kushmasta does as town, without having to read kushmasta's past games, apparently, because he would know this.
So, he's just jumping on different people, going against his own policies (reading past games before giving judgement), and then retracting from his scumreads for no real reason (as he needs to do regarding kush in case he reads his past games). Dropping suspicion in places where he can retract from it later if needed.
##Vote: ticklishmusic
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sorry for my inactivity, it's been an incredibly long 36 hours or so
i have read the thread completely now though. need some time to digest it all
VT really blows. the idea that blue roles get 2 powers (and some get even more, possibly) but i get none is stupid. especially when i look at the draft order and i don't really see how i got such a low pick. more on that in a sec
i also really dislike basing my scum hunting on meta game. i haven't played a forum mafia game in a year (a couple years?) at least and reading back on my old posts is cringe-worthy. i also don't have the time or desire to read up on all of the past games of all 29 of you.
i was going to post something like this about 28 hours ago when roffles said i was probably just bored: "roffles is right, i'm mad that my favorite champs weren't included in the game and when i DID dibs a champ, someone stole it from me. i don't have much to say and you can lynch me if you want"
but i didn't, and then a whole bunch of posts were dedicated to me (E>). i'm not the super aggro guy i was in past games. so instead i'm gonna do a bit of analysis on a couple things and just be my little ol' tank minion self. if i make it through tonight (likely) and we have some juicy info on n1 actions, i might be of more use.
anyway, this post:
On December 03 2013 11:50 LSB wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Your hourly reminder that many of your town have valuable information that has not been revealed
There are still highly dangerous roles in the game that we need to confirm if they exist or not before the first night. As many people have emphasize, if you have claimed Vanilla town or even flipped vanilla town, it is in the towns interest for you to claimed what you tried to pick. There is no reason why you should not sit on a vanilla town role and not say anything.
If you are vanilla town it is important for you to reveal what role you tried to take
If you can deal damage it is important for you to reveal what role you tried to take
If you are DT/Medic/Tracker it is highly suggested, but I will forgive you if you don't, to reveal what role you take
We need to know if Janna, Heimerdinger, Karthus and other roles that have the ability to increase mafia KP are in the game. Koshi [2][1] - ViktorKurumi [4][6] - WarwickVisceraEyes [5][4] - Luxjcarlsoniv [9][3] - Soft Blue claim, cannot deal damageMig [12][1] JonnyLaw [14][11] Risen [15][15] - KarmaStorrZerg [23][23] geript [24][24] Warwick? -> VT?austinmcc [6][3] Meapak_Ziphh [6][14] Sandroba - FioraKenpachi[8][15] - Blue ClaimRean [16][2] ?-> VTbumatlarge [16][12] -> Soft Blue ClaimBloddyC0bbler [17][5] Soft Blue Claim, probably a power rolejustanothertownie marvellosity [7][2] - Blue Claimgtrsrs [7][11] Kha'Zix -> VTOdinOfPergo [7][16] Karma -> VTMocsta [1][5] ? -> VTsupersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath -> VTraynpelikoneet [1][1] - Shenkushm4sta ticklishmusic TaricRoffles Coagulation jaybrundage [Tabbz] Ezreal?LSB -> Tryndamere
lead me to really question: "seriously, why do i have such a shit pick?" i picked [7],[11]. based on my understanding of how the pick works, here's what should have happened. 3 of us claimed 7, so we were defaulted to our second picks. my second pick was 11. the only other person with an 11 pick was JonnyLaw. but JonnyLaw's first pick was 14. he couldn't be above me in the pick order with these picks. i would have defaulted to 11 before he did. additionally, no one above him has a 14 pick, so he should have been 14, not even defaulting to his second pick
therefore i can only conclude that (presuming everyone else was telling the truth) JonnyLaw is lying about his number picks. no need to lie about that. he's scum.
on that note, i do not necessarily believe that he picked kha'zix. if he did not pick kha'zix, then the person who did is also scum. 2 down. korea stands no chance
##Vote: JonnyLaw
note: sandroba or justanothertownie outing their pick numbers could save JonnyLaw
also if it might help, i'm extremely knowledgeable about league of legends and i can help answer any questions for non-league players, especially those questions that might pertain to possible second abilities (though at this time, i don't see that as necessary)
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On December 03 2013 12:12 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 19:06 Koshi wrote:On December 02 2013 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 02 2013 18:56 Koshi wrote:
Well I even lied. It will happen in the Day phase and it will be announced in the thread. Should have read my role PM better. So it will be D3 soonest. Because evul scummers will have done their work then. I need the evul scummers to do their work.
If the evul scummers are nice and cuddly scummers than it will be delayed to D4.
They are probably not cuddly so on N2 somebody will be elected. You got 140 hours to prove yourself.
I have no idea what are you talking about. Why would you use any power over the invontions because you can basically do whatever you want, including your other power.. I can use all the powers. Also it's super awesome. Like almost better than the invention stuff. Do you know cool inventions? I already got 4 items send to the hosts though. Aegis Dagon BKB Ghost Scepter Some are pretty weak though. Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 09:42 Koshi wrote:
Aegis
Dagon lvl 5 first.
I will break this LoL game with DotA items. Yo, what are the restrictions on your role? Can you make cooler stuff like "LSB's bus driver, where everything that goes to you is instead reflected to someone else" or "DT magnifying glass, which makes anyone a DT?" or "Thermonuclear Bomb" which kills X amount of people at a time, where X-1 is the largest amount you can get the hosts to agree on?. Oh I know! Make an Euls Sceptor! A roleblock + Invul that only works on yourself and people not on your team (IE Mafia if you are town, and town if you are mafia), give yourself one and use it to make you invul, and they start handing em out so we can all be detectives. I agree with people saying you should try to do more with your role than being a guy who can't be nightkilled.
I keep harassing hosts but they don't reply to me anymore. I don't know anything about what I can make.
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so gtrsrs you have apparently misunderstood how the picks work too.
And the post is worthless. God why do people not read OP?
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if you want to stay in character, viktor has these abilities:
ability: upgraded ability
death laser: shoots a laser at large range in a straight line, dealing damage and dealing DoT
power swap: deals single target damage and upon the projectile's return, gives him a shield and bonus movespeed
gravity field: opens a large stun block that initially slows then stuns at a large range
ionic storm: creates a storm that moves around the battlefield and deals damage and silences enemies
maybe you could give a vanilla townie one of your inventions, viktor 
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On December 03 2013 17:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so gtrsrs you have apparently misunderstood how the picks work too.
And the post is worthless. God why do people not read OP?
that's also a strong possibility
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loool
grtsrs, how the picks work in terms of tiebreaker.
1. Highest unique first number
2. Highest unique second number
3. Both numbers the same
4. Didnt pick.
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I think we should lynch ticklishmusic or geript.
geript's case on Oats is quite irrational and other than that he has basically contributed nothing on D1.
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warwick's abilities are as follows:
hungering strike: deals %-based damage and heals himself for a big chunk
hunter's call: gives himself massive attack speed and his allies get attack speed as well
blood scent: gets the location of champs at a huge range, when they are below 50% hp. also gets bonus movespeed
infinite duress: stuns and deals damage to a single enemy champ
his listed ability is infinite duress. i would say with certainty that hunter's call is his least-defining skill and blood scent is his most-defining skill. i think it is likely that when people get below 50% hp, warwick will be able to get information on them (either their night activities or their roles/alignments). this would synergize well with his listed ability in helping him kill people. i think that could be pretty damn good on town. if we split our KP and math out some numbers, never actually go for a kill at night, we could perhaps get every member of the town down to low HP so kurumi could find out their roles or alignments. if his other ability is hungering strike then idk. will be hard to kill him at night.
we should get a cop on kurumi tonight to make sure he's town. feels like a really strong character to me
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Ah rofl. Warwick (Kurumi) has blood scent as his second spell. That's why he said his second spell helped his first.
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Yeah let's use all town KP to hit town so that mafia can just kill 5 people / night by splitting up their KP (assuming it works like it did in GoT). Good plan geript.
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^ I guess you meant gtrsrs.
And I think gtrsrs was pretenting to be scum or something.
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Hosts are not allowing listchecks.
Cool DotA items are back on the table.
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On December 03 2013 12:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Odin if kushmasta has even one quote from another player in his posts he is town.
If he is scum he does not go into any filter because he can't even force himself to do so. He just says "permission to bus me granted, do it!".
I don't think he is scum here.
This is false, the reason I was suspicious of him in LXII (you were mafia with him) was because he made some pre-fab case on jat, which did indeed contain quotes from his filter. Bad metric.
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^ Is it true that Kush allows him to be bussed? I always thougt Kush was the guy who bussed his team?
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On December 03 2013 12:51 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 12:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LSB
For the love of all that is town
Stop. Fucking. Blue. Hunting Seriously? You seriously think the best way to make sure said KP isn't being thrown around is to let roles have free will over what to do? Last thing we need is a Heimerdinger getting two turrets out, or an Urgot making a focus fire on one champion an instakill. I have said time and time again that KP related roles should be claimed so they can be held accountable should they participate in suspicious actions. Okay, if you are vet/dt/medic you don't need to claim if you do not, but awnser this. Why shouldn't Vanilla Town Claim who they tried to pick or KP related roles claim the same?
You need to shut the fuck up or I'm going to have you lynched for being an annoying asshole.
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Marv I think I want to lynch LSB.
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I'm strongly considering it, the main pro being I would no longer have to read his posts.
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Last pick: Tryn. Thats gotta be scum right? Revealed power being what it is, I just don't see a townie picking it in that position. Like, and he is professing to be concerned about KP being thrown around Willy nilly, but thinks its super important he confirm himself by using his power N1?
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