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[QUOTE]On December 04 2013 15:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 04 2013 15:19 geript wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 04 2013 15:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote] I found it odd that you're not throwing your weight behind LSB more to push for claims (Vt or which role) as that was very influential in the last PYP but you seem to forget that. [/quote]
I am tired of talkingabout claiming strategy. At least now i should be obvious people won't agree to certain strategy regarding claims so i couldn't care less to push something that will never be achieved.[/QUOTE]
So can you understand me saying "I want to lynch oats, that's not possible so I'd like to lynch Jay ."[/QUOTE]
The problem is you never even made a case on Oats. The "case" is spread all over your filter and it was really hardfor me to find why do you even think he is scum. Then you just proceeded into saying "Oats is scum" and a bit later "well Oats is not gonna get lynched, so let's lynch a lurker.. like jay".[quote]
So does that make me scum?
[quote]I don't think you are very commited into wanting to lynch scum..[/QUOTE]
Does that make me scum?
Here's the thing that, yes once cooler heads prevail mine included, that thinking someone is scum doesn't magically make them scum no matter how much chezinu faith is put into that. Yah, I can recognize that. I hope if you're town you can too.
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It's ok VE. I'm done trying to talk to him. He can't be reasoned with.
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On December 04 2013 15:48 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 11:46 geript wrote:On December 04 2013 11:39 bumatlarge wrote:On December 04 2013 11:36 geript wrote:On December 04 2013 11:31 bumatlarge wrote:
Also, people asking me to defend myself. I can't really defend myself for fakeclaiming role-denial. I like to be risky when I get the chance in mafia. This probably would have come back to bite me later, but this is much sooner then I expected, I was hoping to lead a lynch onto scum before I had to say anything. Nobody cares about the fake claim. Like that's the least scummy thing you've done. Usually I like to back things up with examples or at least fancy words. You have the rare talent or choosing not to do either. You've never really accounted for Sandroba or Marv's points. You never really explained my points against you. You continue to push me as a scum read with no real reason for me to be scum when I'm the person who really started the counterwagon against your lynch. You never really came back and explained your reads on why the people who you suspect are scum. You're the person who faked going to Trynd but picked Lux and seem completely revolved around that while no one really suspects you for that. You did come back with a chezinu-esque fucking poem with practically reads as a scumclaim. On top of that, you've completely fucking avoided talking about the counterwagon to your fucking lynch entirely. It's weird as shit and scummy. The fact that your defense is focused on bits of things that people don't really find you scummy for and not the big fucking elephants in the room is why people are so happy to jump on your wagon in part. geript this post really comes across like you know he's going to flip town.
1. Is any of what I wrote wrong?
2. How so? Because I've done the same thing like multiple times as scum?
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And is that feeling any more valid than my feeling that oats was picking a fight with me? Is there a difference between venting and "smack down." Is that even what VE meant or is he just bringing up a point and not fleshing it out so others can fill in the gap?
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Ewbop. Most importantly does that feeling make it correct? Eg I'm overplaying it as scum.
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On December 04 2013 18:38 Koshi wrote:
Spoiler. The baby will die.
Spoiler. After getting my nights sleep, I'm becoming interested in lynching you.
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As for primes big case on jay, not sure whether to not believe it or feel cockblocked.
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Yah I was pushing for a of jaybrundage over whoever we lynched. Maybe I can get 1 more hour of sleep.
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Really though I'd prefer you filter dive me as you're probly going to get shot with Marv. That'll leave Rayn/VE/pro-geript lynch crew around.
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On December 04 2013 19:19 Koshi wrote:
You think too highly of me. Maybe you should look in all my previous games and see how many times I pushed scum. The number is quite low. I am letting the smart people do stuff D1. N0 it looked like there were a lot of smart people.
Didn't you just get out of a game where you and only you pushed scum Rayn and you were right?
I should probly stop posting because I'm approaching don't give a fuck mode.
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Honestly Koshi I'm really pissed off at you. Like rayn says you're unlynchable right now (not actually but that he'd cockblock it). Like my first game with you I remember wanting to lymch you for coming across to me as dumb/newb/scum but not wanting to risk it. Here you're not wanting to participate for sounding dumb yet people aren't instantly taken to lynching you. IMO you're in my lynch it with fire zone and I'm not thinking twice right now.
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On December 04 2013 19:29 marvellosity wrote:
geript, you will give a shit or there will be spankings. Now to catch up on the 20 pages or however much I missed.
What if I like spankings?
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On December 04 2013 19:46 Promethelax wrote:
Actually what I just said isn't true. I played with him in British II where we lynched him day 1 while he was away.
So on the tired and not wanting to read me thing....
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On December 04 2013 19:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So nothing happened besides Koshi posting a list of inventions that are 90% terribad.:/
Koshi any sort of investigation items are the best.
I was just about to comment on how many of them were KP or RB or a mix. And you're not bothered by the fact that he's done nothing day 1 and gotten away with it and you're feeding his trolling and you're not even willing to fucking tell him to not make KP and make investigation stuff. Instead you're very, extremely unconcerned about Koshi who is and actually has been part of your plan, the person you're claiming to shield from damage for 2 days, not following through on YOUR PLAN. But you wanted to bitch at me for not liking your plan whatsoever and not coming up with a better one. Really Rayn?
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On December 05 2013 02:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 02:46 marvellosity wrote:On December 05 2013 02:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On December 05 2013 02:31 marvellosity wrote:On December 05 2013 02:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On December 05 2013 02:17 Koshi wrote:
That post makes jay town in my book. Don't know if it makes VE more scum but delurk is delurky. So the content of what he posted doesn't matter, only that he posted? Well broadcast the fucking message to the scum team, all you guys need to do is post a halfassed analysis and koshi will call you town. Even the way this is worded doesn't come from the perspective that you think Koshi is mafia, it's couched in the terms of Koshi's message to the scumteam, with the implication that Koshi is not of the scumteam. It's all pretty weird to be honest Meapak. Do you think jay's analysis is half-assed? Because that's what you said. Or is it hyperbole? If it's hyperbole, why? The whole message to the scumteam bit is supposed to sound sarcastic but apparently that didn't translate.I honestly haven't looked too closely at jay's analysis, I just read it and saw koshi's response. No, it did translate, the point is that consciously or subconsciously, those are the terms you phrased your attack in. And you felt it was ok to attack Koshi's stance on what jay had just said without having really read what jay just said? Colour me unimpressed. Yeah because who gives a fuck what jay says, it's the fact that koshi just doesn't care. If you had said the same thing he did I wouldn't care because I know you are paying attention to the game. Koshi on the other hand clearly does not give a fuck and his response to jay's post read like "oh wall of text, I can call this guy town" I'll repeat this again, it's not about what jay said, it's about the way koshi responded. I couldn't give a fuck who it was honestly, it read like koshi saw an analysis and went "he wrote a lot, I can call him town."
I care what jay says and I want to lynch him. My initial reaction to reading it while driving was, "Man it's odd that he directs his case on VE only to VE."
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On December 05 2013 03:24 kushm4sta wrote:
whats up, im nitpicking your nitpicking. what are you going to do now!
This seems like a really odd troll to come from a town perspective.
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On December 05 2013 05:15 Promethelax wrote:I think you are right marv, I wasn't in the game at the time and was ascribing a seriousness to the post which did not necessarily exist. However, since it may have existed geript could you please explain your reasoning for the post on zero bans. Thanks.I'm also interested in how you, geript, feel in general now that I have partially filtered you as you asked.
How I feel in general, nauseaous. But that's just the antibiotic I'm on right now. As for my post on 0 bans, I honestly don't think that bans (other than maybe yorick) made any sense this game. We're given little information about roles, their health levels, how much they protect or damage, what the ultimate is, Unlike the previous PYP where there were obvious roles that were exceptionally important to deny scum and it was a matter of how people ordered them, this PYP because of the complete ambiguity of the roles there's little real discussable material with it. So not only are we very unlikely to be able to pick the "right 3", the discussion about the picks is likely to devolve into a worthless "IMO this" "IMO that". Plus, I just don't think it actually makes a difference on the game at all. Which roles get banned being/making the scum team the most vulnerable or feel the most vulnerable is going to change drastically based on who's scum. None of the bans actually replace the ability to scumhunt or in any way affect the ability to scumhunt (yorick included), so the bans and number picking and role picking is very much a distractor for me than I think it is anything important. I based the role I picked partially based on which people my champion apparently played with more consideration to which roles I'd want to know if someone ahead of me were to take or which roles I'd prefer to prevent scum having. In many ways I've taken a similar approach to how Dr. Helvetica took in LIV, "who's mayor/pardoner doesn't really matter. I'm more concerned with who the mayor is intending to lynch" despite the fact that I exceptionally despise Dr.H and think he's an awful person and would never ever want to play a game with him again except to play just to troll him and annoy the fuck out of him.
On a more serious note about how I feel after you've filtered me, I actually feel pretty good about my play and I think that alot of your description of my play tends to characterize some major differences I have as town.
On December 04 2013 20:29 Promethelax wrote:The problem I have with this is that geript holds on to this thing which should be obviously not worth a damn to him (and everyone else) its an hour 0 pressure. Its based on almost nothing. But geript is in it like a hell hound. Got his teeth sunk in the meat of Jay's leg all deep like, I don't see it from a townie. A scum wants to leave fangs in over something dumb because its a way to look active. A town gives up bad game as bad when they realize its going no where.
Like this specifically, I don't believe that hour 0 pressure is not worth a damn. I very much feel like many of my initial impressions and feelings are less clouded by my conscious thought process. I've given many strange and correct scum reads on people very early on based on completely random stuff. As for me sinking my teeth in, I think that's very apt but I also didn't feel like there was an adequate resolution to my suspicion of jay and it moreso got passed over based on picking phase "priority stuff." To be honest, a lot of that unsatisfactory resolution is why I went back and took a look at him late day 1 because I wasn't really liking how the bum vote was shaping up and I wanted to provide an alternative that I really believed in because I'm just not sold on all the LSB stuff. The major difference for me between how I play scum and how I play town is a lot of my scum play has shown that as scum i want to convince town to follow my lynch out of an ego thing and I don't want to have to bother trying to keep a consistent timeline of things (which is exceptionally hard for me to do); additionally, I'm far more passive as scum. I think most people equate my scum play with Dr.H's "the Game" which is really unfair because my scum team was absolutely amazing and that really lifted my play; whereas I think my scum play is far more like LX or LXI whichever one it was that I was "confirmed town" in. I literally had to keep on watching WoS filter in that game to try and keep up with his page count so that my activity wasn't an obvious tell.
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On top of all that, I think I'm a bit relieved by it. I think a Geript mislynch is a thing that can be very easy to push and with, at that point, many people and some who I thought were town were including me on their "Hmmm I could lynch this dude" list. Lynches like that can happen really quick and I didn't want another thing like what happened with Bum (Wagon forms, no real opposition or alternate option around) to happen to me too. Because that's very frustrating as a player.
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Also, now that Warwick is out. I think it's a good time for everyone to claim their player and champion.
I'm Uzi and I'm playing twitch.
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