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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
It's easy enough for scum to fake claim, and then they know everything, while we sit here wondering if someone lied about additional abilities. Then if some secondary abilities cause huge problems, we don't know who to hold accountable. All in all, it feels like scum gets too much info while we don't benefit as much. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
There may be casualties along the way, but it allows us to pinpoint and get a sense of where to look (if #12 didn't get his, we narrow from 29 down to 11). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 02 2013 08:43 jcarlsoniv wrote: Well, explain to me how it goes after we pick and get the rest of the abilities. We then claim our full abilities? It's easy enough for scum to fake claim, and then they know everything, while we sit here wondering if someone lied about additional abilities. Then if some secondary abilities cause huge problems, we don't know who to hold accountable. All in all, it feels like scum gets too much info while we don't benefit as much. It doesn't matter because some roles are better than others anyways and getting townies the most amount of roles will help the town anyways because every role will be useful in some way. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
If everyone just guesses and shit, theres a good chance multiple casualties come if mafia takes a role from someone. Also, you factor in townies screwing over lower pick townies. Yes, scum gets full intel, but they don't have full intel on what everyone can do as part of their roles, which is advantageous for town because everyone has abilities and they outnumber scum. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 02 2013 08:50 LSB wrote: Where is my traitor role? Why can't I pick that? And why am I last pick again? Because you most likely did not send in any numbers. Why didn't you? Shame on you... :p | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
The only problem is this has been proposed pretty late. Not sure you will get people to agree to it this late in the day. But sign me up. Also, I am sick as balls right now and have been since the game started. I will continue to post very little until I have recovered some. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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justanothertownie
16343 Posts
On December 02 2013 08:54 geript wrote: not to mention that we'd also have to 100% have people committed to "check if it's taken" picks. People won't do that. Why? I thought people just have to claim what they took. Obviously telling everyone what to pick won't work. I think this mass claim is a very good idea. The high ranked players have to start it though and time is running out. | ||
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Rean
Netherlands808 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
I think it's a fine plan but not in this situation. It's great in theory but in practice it is so horribly likely to work like the optimal case, and the main reason for that is that people are people and not that mafia will twirl their moustaches and screw up the plan. | ||
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justanothertownie
16343 Posts
On December 02 2013 09:03 austinmcc wrote: Mass claiming requires everybody to cooperate, and has no way of determining whether mafia didn't cooperate with something or stubborn/fun-seeking townies didn't. Look at crap like people always wanting inventor, or wanting a specific champ this time around (there have been a couple "i'm picking my favorite champs"). Also, it's close to deadline and you won't get everyone to post/agree. I think it's a fine plan but not in this situation. It's great in theory but in practice it is so horribly likely to work like the optimal case, and the main reason for that is that people are people and not that mafia will twirl their moustaches and screw up the plan. As long as everyone claims townies can't fuck other townies over because who is first to pick a champion gets it and everyone after that would be an idiot to do so too. Idiots get VT I see no problem with that. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Now there is no way we would be able to tell who is who unless we have a mass claim. It's already late enough that we don't have a picking planed up. I would advice everyone to try to go for either the roles I listed or the roles BC listed. Keep in mind, mafia did ban out all of the DT roles, so they probably have no problems with a mass claim. However, it is much better to have control and an idea of what these power roles are doing, rather than let mafia use them on their own. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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