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On December 19 2013 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I stopped not lynching people who are lying when there is no reason to lie.
1k hp =/= 1150 hp and noone does not write their hp properly because of "it's hard to write 1150". Everything else i could buy but not that. If he is town it's unfortunate but the esiest solution is he is not town.
Why do you have to be like that this game. Seriously this is the worst reasoning for this lynch I heard until now.
So you would buy that Mocsta told us he is a marksman and claimed a player who isn't a marksman but you don't buy that he wrote 1k instead of 1150? I don't understand you.
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On December 19 2013 02:32 Koshi wrote:Oats mentions: In Coag filter: 0 times In JL filter: 1 time + Show Spoiler +On December 06 2013 12:06 JonnyLaw wrote:
Yeah Oats that's exactly what I said. I'll lynch him is transparent. In MZ filter: Chainsaw early defense with the random "I don't know what Oats is doing" + Show Spoiler +On December 02 2013 15:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Yo VE calm your shit.
Also geript, can I see something substantial on oats other than "dis motherfucker gonna die"? On December 02 2013 16:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 16:16 Oatsmaster wrote:MZ, whats your read on Rayn since he is so wrong about VE  I've always thought he was town because of his D0 stuff. That hasn't changed. Someone can be wrong on a read and still be town, wrong =/= scum. On December 02 2013 16:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 16:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still fail to see how anything gtrsrs has done serves "anti-town agenda". I don't think he is working with any agenda at all, which points towards town. MZ why are you not calling me scum because i said i will pick a KP-role and shoot Oats until he dies? It was his post about the quality of the thread that really set me off since it was such bullshit and he then proceeded to post more bullshit. Scum love threads where there is a lot of bullshit and that's what he was contributing to.
As to your second point, I have a town read on you, I haven't paid too much attention to oats but if you have kp and decide to shoot him I'd appreciate we discuss it first.Actually I have no idea what your second point is about. If you're asking me as to why I don't have a meta read on you it's because I haven't played with you as much/I don't remember you very much from previous games. On December 04 2013 14:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
ok guys keep in mind my last post was somewhere in the 90s pages so I have a lot of ground to cover. I've been suspicious of geript so I am more than willing to consider a geript lynch, I just like to understand what changed to get other people to agree with me.
I'm not being lazy oats, I just wanna know if I should watch for anything. On December 04 2013 16:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
here's what I got out of geript:
never once does he properly analyze oats and is content to simply lean on his "gut read"
he constantly talks about both oats and jay but never really tries to get people to join him and instead simply tells people to vote them because his targets are guaranteed scum.
The biggest thing I get out of geript is a bunch of noise and posts without doing anything substantial. For instance, he has his main targets but he brings up others on the side and never follows up. He's in that twilight zone where you can't blame him for the bum mislynch but he was definitely involved.
Probably the biggest thing in geript's favor is calling out people like austin and coag, both of whom are low content lurkers. If he's scum he could be bussing his teammates but it's a point in his favor that he doesn't let them fall through the cracks. However the reason why this doesn't clear him is because he never follows up with any of this. It's easy enough to call out lurkers as scum but he never actually follows through which makes me think this was an effort to appear protown.
geript is frustratingly inconclusive for me. He's done things I feel are scummy (hence my gutread) but I couldn't put it into a coherent analysis. This is the problem I was running into earlier in the game when I was looking at geript and sadly bum's death hasn't really made it any easier. He could be scum but I'd rather look into bum's other suspects right now. On December 05 2013 14:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
rayn I could get behind you on rean. idk what the fuck oats and mocsta are doing but it's not productive right now, you're both shitting up the thread.
Actually rayn I have one question, what are your updated thoughts on LSB and gtrsrs since you haven't mentioned either in a while and they both played prominently D1?
On December 12 2013 15:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 14:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
There have been like 0 cases on MZ, where is all the push coming from? Sandro? Sandro has been consistently wrong the whole game except for JL. Or Sandro is scum. Probably not though, unless he somehow found out how to play scum properly I would love to know as well In Onegu filter: 0 times
Yeah, I noticed this too when I filtered him a while ago. As I said: should we kill Mocsta today then oats is next.
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On December 19 2013 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I stopped not lynching people who are lying when there is no reason to lie.
1k hp =/= 1150 hp and noone does not write their hp properly because of "it's hard to write 1150". Everything else i could buy but not that. If he is town it's unfortunate but the esiest solution is he is not town.
The fact that the strongest points that people keep mentioning are the hp "slip" and the 25 damage you took is the reason I haven't voted Moc yet. Like, he's responding thoroughly, he seems invested, but I need to here more from him when he comes back.
I've already explained my stance on his hp claim. The 25 damage that rayn got when he taunted is weird, and I would love a confirmation of the cause, but I've still got my reservations about a Mocsta lynch.
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On December 19 2013 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I stopped not lynching people who are lying when there is no reason to lie.
1k hp =/= 1150 hp and noone does not write their hp properly because of "it's hard to write 1150". Everything else i could buy but not that. If he is town it's unfortunate but the esiest solution is he is not town. Why do you have to be like that this game. Seriously this is the worst reasoning for this lynch I heard until now. So you would buy that Mocsta told us he is a marksman and claimed a player who isn't a marksman but you don't buy that he wrote 1k instead of 1150? I don't understand you.
I have never played LoL and i have no idea what the talk about marksman is so i can't really comment on it.
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Look.
Mocsta claims to have 1000 hp.
Then he claims to have been hit with 150 hp (and later on says "scum do not hit people with some dumb numbers - they consolidate on kill targets") so he could fit into 850 hp if it comes out (caster).
When that's actually important how much hp he has he suddenly changes his story to "no shit i had 1150 hp, it was just too hard to type so i wrote 1k".
Yes, i find that incredibly fishy.
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On December 19 2013 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:On December 19 2013 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I stopped not lynching people who are lying when there is no reason to lie.
1k hp =/= 1150 hp and noone does not write their hp properly because of "it's hard to write 1150". Everything else i could buy but not that. If he is town it's unfortunate but the esiest solution is he is not town. Why do you have to be like that this game. Seriously this is the worst reasoning for this lynch I heard until now. So you would buy that Mocsta told us he is a marksman and claimed a player who isn't a marksman but you don't buy that he wrote 1k instead of 1150? I don't understand you. I have never played LoL and i have no idea what the talk about marksman is so i can't really comment on it.
Me neither. But that pretty obviously seems to be a position/job in a LoL team and I doubt pro players are not specialized.
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In addition to that when all this happens i get hit by 25 kp every single night, but not before. Fishy much?
Well maybe Mocsta should not originally have lied about his HP so he could make his position better in this business.
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On December 19 2013 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In addition to that when all this happens i get hit by 25 kp every single night, but not before. Fishy much?
Well maybe Mocsta should not originally have lied about his HP so he could make his position better in this business.
I thought you only got hit by 25 on the night you taunted him?
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On December 19 2013 03:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In addition to that when all this happens i get hit by 25 kp every single night, but not before. Fishy much?
Well maybe Mocsta should not originally have lied about his HP so he could make his position better in this business. I thought you only got hit by 25 on the night you taunted him?
Nope. Later he taunted jay and got hit by 25 again.
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On December 19 2013 03:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 03:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 19 2013 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In addition to that when all this happens i get hit by 25 kp every single night, but not before. Fishy much?
Well maybe Mocsta should not originally have lied about his HP so he could make his position better in this business. I thought you only got hit by 25 on the night you taunted him? Nope. Later he taunted jay and got hit by 25 again.
oh...I missed that. And I assume jay has claimed a VT that would do 50 damage (I don't remember)?
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On December 19 2013 03:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 03:48 justanothertownie wrote:On December 19 2013 03:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 19 2013 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In addition to that when all this happens i get hit by 25 kp every single night, but not before. Fishy much?
Well maybe Mocsta should not originally have lied about his HP so he could make his position better in this business. I thought you only got hit by 25 on the night you taunted him? Nope. Later he taunted jay and got hit by 25 again. oh...I missed that. And I assume jay has claimed a VT that would do 50 damage (I don't remember)?
As far as I know he claimed a different kind of VT. According to Sandro scum shot Rayn for 25 to give Mocsta cover.
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On December 19 2013 03:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 03:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 19 2013 03:48 justanothertownie wrote:On December 19 2013 03:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 19 2013 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In addition to that when all this happens i get hit by 25 kp every single night, but not before. Fishy much?
Well maybe Mocsta should not originally have lied about his HP so he could make his position better in this business. I thought you only got hit by 25 on the night you taunted him? Nope. Later he taunted jay and got hit by 25 again. oh...I missed that. And I assume jay has claimed a VT that would do 50 damage (I don't remember)? As far as I know he claimed a different kind of VT. According to Sandro scum shot Rayn for 25 to give Mocsta cover.
I...find that somehow hard to believe.
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On December 19 2013 03:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 03:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 19 2013 03:48 justanothertownie wrote:On December 19 2013 03:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 19 2013 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In addition to that when all this happens i get hit by 25 kp every single night, but not before. Fishy much?
Well maybe Mocsta should not originally have lied about his HP so he could make his position better in this business. I thought you only got hit by 25 on the night you taunted him? Nope. Later he taunted jay and got hit by 25 again. oh...I missed that. And I assume jay has claimed a VT that would do 50 damage (I don't remember)? As far as I know he claimed a different kind of VT. According to Sandro scum shot Rayn for 25 to give Mocsta cover.
That would be dumb and unnecessary given Risen's & my rant in thread about shielding.. There was no reason to assume Risen will not shield us.
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EBWOP: Oh you were talking about the next night. Yeah i don't know about that but the night i first got shot for 25 kp there was no reason to assume Risen will not shield us.
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Well, got to admit it would be pretty wp if scum framed mocsta like that.
rayn, you didn't tell thread you were going to taunt Mocsta right? or did you?
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On December 19 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Oh you were talking about the next night. Yeah i don't know about that but the night i first got shot for 25 kp there was no reason to assume Risen will not shield us.
I agree with this. So we have few different scenarios (probably already covered, but I need to write it out to keep my thoughts straight):
- Scum threw 25 KP your way for two consecutive nights.
- Mocsta did damage to you one night, and in order to cover it up, scum dealt 25 random damage to you the next night.
- Both Mocsta and JayB dealt damage to you through taunts.
- You're lying about the damage.
Idk if I'm missing anything.
The third scenario makes the most logical sense, I think. Scenario 2 is a lot of WIFOM and seems very convoluted. I don't think 4 is the case, and 1 doesn't make much sense.
Scenario 3 wouldn't matter if both Mocsta and Jay hadn't claimed to be non-damaging VTs.
Now, we don't actually know how scum KP works in this game. It seems that they can split it up however they want (see - 1 damage night 1, 849 damage to ticklish night 2). So I guess scenario 1 is plausible, but I don't see the reason other than scum wanting to frame someone?
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On December 19 2013 04:02 Koshi wrote:
Well, got to admit it would be pretty wp if scum framed mocsta like that.
rayn, you didn't tell thread you were going to taunt Mocsta right? or did you?
No i only told Risen.
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On December 19 2013 04:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Oh you were talking about the next night. Yeah i don't know about that but the night i first got shot for 25 kp there was no reason to assume Risen will not shield us. I agree with this. So we have few different scenarios (probably already covered, but I need to write it out to keep my thoughts straight): - Scum threw 25 KP your way for two consecutive nights.
- Mocsta did damage to you one night, and in order to cover it up, scum dealt 25 random damage to you the next night.
- Both Mocsta and JayB dealt damage to you through taunts.
- You're lying about the damage.
Idk if I'm missing anything. The third scenario makes the most logical sense, I think. Scenario 2 is a lot of WIFOM and seems very convoluted. I don't think 4 is the case, and 1 doesn't make much sense. Scenario 3 wouldn't matter if both Mocsta and Jay hadn't claimed to be non-damaging VTs. Now, we don't actually know how scum KP works in this game. It seems that they can split it up however they want (see - 1 damage night 1, 849 damage to ticklish night 2). So I guess scenario 1 is plausible, but I don't see the reason other than scum wanting to frame someone?
(4) can't be true because Risen proves it.
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On December 19 2013 04:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Oh you were talking about the next night. Yeah i don't know about that but the night i first got shot for 25 kp there was no reason to assume Risen will not shield us. I agree with this. So we have few different scenarios (probably already covered, but I need to write it out to keep my thoughts straight): - Scum threw 25 KP your way for two consecutive nights.
- Mocsta did damage to you one night, and in order to cover it up, scum dealt 25 random damage to you the next night.
- Both Mocsta and JayB dealt damage to you through taunts.
- You're lying about the damage.
Idk if I'm missing anything. The third scenario makes the most logical sense, I think. Scenario 2 is a lot of WIFOM and seems very convoluted. I don't think 4 is the case, and 1 doesn't make much sense. Scenario 3 wouldn't matter if both Mocsta and Jay hadn't claimed to be non-damaging VTs. Now, we don't actually know how scum KP works in this game. It seems that they can split it up however they want (see - 1 damage night 1, 849 damage to ticklish night 2). So I guess scenario 1 is plausible, but I don't see the reason other than scum wanting to frame someone?
For Scenario 3 to be true Mocsta AND jay had to be liars/scum. I think this one is pretty unlikely.
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On December 19 2013 04:13 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 04:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 19 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Oh you were talking about the next night. Yeah i don't know about that but the night i first got shot for 25 kp there was no reason to assume Risen will not shield us. I agree with this. So we have few different scenarios (probably already covered, but I need to write it out to keep my thoughts straight): - Scum threw 25 KP your way for two consecutive nights.
- Mocsta did damage to you one night, and in order to cover it up, scum dealt 25 random damage to you the next night.
- Both Mocsta and JayB dealt damage to you through taunts.
- You're lying about the damage.
Idk if I'm missing anything. The third scenario makes the most logical sense, I think. Scenario 2 is a lot of WIFOM and seems very convoluted. I don't think 4 is the case, and 1 doesn't make much sense. Scenario 3 wouldn't matter if both Mocsta and Jay hadn't claimed to be non-damaging VTs. Now, we don't actually know how scum KP works in this game. It seems that they can split it up however they want (see - 1 damage night 1, 849 damage to ticklish night 2). So I guess scenario 1 is plausible, but I don't see the reason other than scum wanting to frame someone? For Scenario 3 to be true Mocsta AND jay had to be liars/scum. I think this one is pretty unlikely.
My problem is why would scum assume, only from N3, that i taunt vanillas?
It's obvious the 25 KP came from taunting Mocsta or scum. WHY N3? Why not before if they wanna "possibly frame someone"? The night there SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN a possibility to frame anyone because Risen's shield..
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