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So, sandro believes MZ's clone has 825 hp? How long does this clone last for?
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On December 07 2013 02:47 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 02:46 Chezinu wrote:On December 07 2013 02:45 geript wrote:On December 07 2013 02:35 Chezinu wrote:On December 07 2013 02:21 sandroba wrote:
Yeah apparently chezinu knows mig is cho and that's all. mkfuba targeted JL and Mig targeted MZ's clone, each for 125. I know more than that. Did you see my post? I know what ability he used last night. Feral scream. Yo Chez. Which of my 3 powers did I use last night and who did I target? you have 3 powers? Answer the damn question.
My former self didn't like you for a reason.
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On December 07 2013 02:49 Chezinu wrote:
So, sandro believes MZ's clone has 825 hp? How long does this clone last for?
Wukong - Decoy - As the Monkey King, Wukong is a natural trickster. Two times during the game, you may create and hide behind a clone of yourself for _a_ night. All abilities that would have hit you hit your clone instead. Cannot be used on consecutive nights. ** Decoy is susceptible to abilities that affect items and traps.
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On December 07 2013 02:43 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 02:40 sandroba wrote:On December 07 2013 02:32 LSB wrote:On December 07 2013 02:30 sandroba wrote:On December 07 2013 02:24 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow really detailed explanation of power usage thought process mz. He seems definitely town from that post alone I'm going to use all dmg I may or may not have on you tonight. Not because I think you are scum, but because you annoy me greatly saying everyone in the game is town. I don't fucking care who is town I want some fucking scum to lynch. Who do you have left that CAN be scum? Yo sandroba, Kushm4sta is scum, read his filter and lynch him with me On December 07 2013 02:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On December 07 2013 02:32 LSB wrote:On December 07 2013 02:30 sandroba wrote:On December 07 2013 02:24 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow really detailed explanation of power usage thought process mz. He seems definitely town from that post alone I'm going to use all dmg I may or may not have on you tonight. Not because I think you are scum, but because you annoy me greatly saying everyone in the game is town. I don't fucking care who is town I want some fucking scum to lynch. Who do you have left that CAN be scum? Yo sandroba, Kushm4sta is scum, read his filter and lynch him with me Yo sandroba, LSB is scum, read his filter and lynch him with me? Prove it. I'm all ears. I've read this game a trillion times already and I can't get anywhere. All he has been doing is calling people town. He isn't trying to actually find scum, he is trying to make friends so people believe he is a friendly townie. No one wants to lynch someone who defended you right? Or so he thinks My push post is here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=179#3574
The meta comparisson is pretty good actually. The other game you lynched kush indeed called a bunch of people town, but was pretty adamant with his scum reads as well. Something that is missing from this game as compared to the other is that he always proposes possible scum along with his current townie reads.
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Posting this so I will stop being confused
#unicornwaffles
Abbreviated Night 1 Action Post
Roles in the Game - Annie
Role Eliminated - Warwick, Kha’Zix
Night Positional Shift
Either Mocsta moved up one space, or Mig Moved down 1 space
Night 1 Positions- jcarlsoniv - Thresher
- kushm4sta
- Rean - Lux-> VT
- JonnyLaw - 125 Damage
- ticklishmusic - Taric
- gtrsrs - Kha'Zix -> VT
- OdinOfPergo - Karma -> VT
- Roffles
- Onegu - Soft Blue Claim, probably a power role. Claim was done by BC
- VisceraEyes - Lux - 250 damage
- Risen - Karma - Roleblocked
- Chezinu - Twisted Fate
- Coagulation
- geript - Soft Karma Claim
- supersoft
- austinmcc
- raynpelikoneet - Shen
- Mocsta -No claim -> VT
- Mig -Cho'Gath
- Oatsmaster - Cho'Gath ->VT
- jaybrundage - Lux ->VT
- LSB
- Koshi - Viktor - 50 Damage
- mkfuba07- Blue Claim Claims he knows who damaged JL Night 1
- justanothertownie
- sandroba - Fiora - Took 1 Damage
- Meapak_Ziphh -Wukong
Disputed Night actions
jcarlsoniv Claims he gave a lantern to Rayn, Chezinu claims he saw nothing.
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I believe geript claimed Twitch after Kurumi quit
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On December 07 2013 02:52 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 02:43 LSB wrote:On December 07 2013 02:40 sandroba wrote:On December 07 2013 02:32 LSB wrote:On December 07 2013 02:30 sandroba wrote:On December 07 2013 02:24 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow really detailed explanation of power usage thought process mz. He seems definitely town from that post alone I'm going to use all dmg I may or may not have on you tonight. Not because I think you are scum, but because you annoy me greatly saying everyone in the game is town. I don't fucking care who is town I want some fucking scum to lynch. Who do you have left that CAN be scum? Yo sandroba, Kushm4sta is scum, read his filter and lynch him with me On December 07 2013 02:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On December 07 2013 02:32 LSB wrote:On December 07 2013 02:30 sandroba wrote:On December 07 2013 02:24 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow really detailed explanation of power usage thought process mz. He seems definitely town from that post alone I'm going to use all dmg I may or may not have on you tonight. Not because I think you are scum, but because you annoy me greatly saying everyone in the game is town. I don't fucking care who is town I want some fucking scum to lynch. Who do you have left that CAN be scum? Yo sandroba, Kushm4sta is scum, read his filter and lynch him with me Yo sandroba, LSB is scum, read his filter and lynch him with me? Prove it. I'm all ears. I've read this game a trillion times already and I can't get anywhere. All he has been doing is calling people town. He isn't trying to actually find scum, he is trying to make friends so people believe he is a friendly townie. No one wants to lynch someone who defended you right? Or so he thinks My push post is here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=179#3574 The meta comparisson is pretty good actually. The other game you lynched kush indeed called a bunch of people town, but was pretty adamant with his scum reads as well. Something that is missing from this game as compared to the other is that he always proposes possible scum along with his current townie reads.
On December 03 2013 00:51 kushm4sta wrote:thanks! kurumi: -He has a lot of thoughts from a mafia perspective, like what heroes are the best for mafia. -Refers to the last PYP, which is a safe discussion topic for mafia. -Mechanics focused discussion about massclaiming (more excusable in pyp i guess) -light suspicion on mocsta. It's really generic and lacks substance. Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 23:51 Kurumi wrote:As for Mocsta one big thing that stands out is that he asks people for opinions but never does provide them himself... unless asked. Diving deeper. -this is only real content post. Notice the overfocus on warwick. On 3 out of 4 people he has no opinion at all. On MZ he give a meta scum read but immediately discounts it and says MZ can be read later because he posts a lot. Also his thing about the chainsaw defense is just lolz and makes no sense. Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 00:13 Kurumi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Mig
He can be ill till D2 for all I care. There is no way to get anything from his posts at all.
BloodyC0bbler
Not much to note besides being against a massclaim, but there is something interesting - he says that Warwick is not that good, because he has to know more to work. I think he started this Urgot wagon, which is pretty decent, he probably was a bus driver as well because of his ultimate in-game. He fought a little with the massclaim plan, but not much. Something is fishy, but he is laid-back in his posts so I am willing to give BC some leeway.
Meapak_Ziphh
Defends VE pretty hardcore, not much besides "I know him", makes a case on gtrsrs without any meta - posts found in my opinion are absolutely not what I've seen from gtrsrs. He does not care. He does whatever he wants. He shouts. He kicks. He bites. He wants to be in spotlight. He is never wrong. He is the man. Here, he is a tiny weenie potato. Something in the ground. MZ posts enough so I think his alignment will be known soon. As for now, I am a little interested why Mocsta defended gtrsrs and attacked MZ... Chainsaw defence?
bumatlarge
His case on jcarl is sound - that means, jcarl looks scummy. Bum was trying to coordinate things a little and saw Warwick as a threat.
@bum, what do you think about gtrsrs and geript?
KURUMI: SCUM JCARL: TOWN GTRSRS: TOWN (tooscummytobescum)
On December 06 2013 06:06 kushm4sta wrote:
i think mig is scum, austin is scum, ream prob not scum. Not quite buying sandrobas ream/austin connection theory but it might be right.
this isn't really an explain my reasons post, but more of a this is how I will use my vote post.
On December 06 2013 13:20 kushm4sta wrote:
ve is scum
mig is scum
austin is cum
those are the power players on the scumteam. probably have a couple afkers/semiafkers on there as well.
On December 06 2013 23:59 kushm4sta wrote:
mafia list 2.0
sandoba
mocsta
ss
jcarl
are you looking for these?
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LSB, the draft order is a lot more usefull than the player list. geript claimed twitch and you missed a hidden claim too.
Mocsta said he went for fiddles. You guys better start reading the game.
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On December 07 2013 02:40 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 02:32 LSB wrote:On December 07 2013 02:30 sandroba wrote:On December 07 2013 02:24 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow really detailed explanation of power usage thought process mz. He seems definitely town from that post alone I'm going to use all dmg I may or may not have on you tonight. Not because I think you are scum, but because you annoy me greatly saying everyone in the game is town. I don't fucking care who is town I want some fucking scum to lynch. Who do you have left that CAN be scum? Yo sandroba, Kushm4sta is scum, read his filter and lynch him with me Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 02:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On December 07 2013 02:32 LSB wrote:On December 07 2013 02:30 sandroba wrote:On December 07 2013 02:24 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow really detailed explanation of power usage thought process mz. He seems definitely town from that post alone I'm going to use all dmg I may or may not have on you tonight. Not because I think you are scum, but because you annoy me greatly saying everyone in the game is town. I don't fucking care who is town I want some fucking scum to lynch. Who do you have left that CAN be scum? Yo sandroba, Kushm4sta is scum, read his filter and lynch him with me Yo sandroba, LSB is scum, read his filter and lynch him with me? Prove it. I'm all ears. I've read this game a trillion times already and I can't get anywhere.
Eh.
I just tried to write a case. I hate his role pick and I hate his claim and I hate his lynch of bum but subsequently he's been better and there's nothing in his filterthat makes him a better lynch than gtrsrs, coag, roffles, or kenpachi (is he eve still playing).
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Posting so I don't have to look at propaganda.
Consolidated Night 1 Action Post
Roles in the Game - Annie
Role Eliminated - Warwick, Kha’Zix
Night Positional Shift
Mig Moved down 1 space
Night 1 Positions- jcarlsoniv - Thresh claims gives lantern thing to rayne during day 2.
- kushm4sta - ?? -> VT
- Rean - Lux-> VT
- JonnyLaw - 125 Damage
- ticklishmusic - Taric - Claims to have healed VE 200HP
- gtrsrs - Kha'Zix -> VT
- OdinOfPergo - Karma -> VT
- Roffles
- Onegu - Soft Blue Claim, probably a power role. Claim was done by BC
- VisceraEyes - Lux - Took 250 damage (450HP without heal)
- Risen - Karma - Roleblocked
- Chezinu - Blue Claim - Took 100 damage
- Coagulation
- geript - Twitch
- supersoft
- austinmcc
- raynpelikoneet - Shen - Uses Stand United - Once upon the darkness of the sky, a shield, yes a shield!, you may give target player that will absorb 2 abilities or eliminate 4 votes used on said player. These divine protection lasts for 4 Moons.
- Mocsta - FiddleSticks -> VT
- Mig -Cho'Gath- 100 Damage, Uses Feral Scream - As Cho'Gath, the Great Mutalisk, you can scare a targeted player for 125 KP and reveal their HP every night.
- Oatsmaster - Cho'Gath ->VT
- jaybrundage - ??? -> VT
- LSB - Trynd
- Koshi - Viktor - 50 Damage, Does nothing base on Chezinu's crystal ball.
- mkfuba07- Blue Claim Claims he knows who damaged JL Night 1
- justanothertownie
- sandroba - Fiora - Took 1 Damage
- Meapak_Ziphh
Claimed Night actions
Rean -> 50 Damage to Austinmcc
Mig -> 125 Damage to Meepak, Bused to JonnyLaw
Chezinu -> spies on Koshi, rayne, jcarlsoniv and Mig to see what they are doing.[/QUOTE]
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@SS these are a bit different from the other game, and started to happen after I've called him out on it. Did you read the filter LSB posted?
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On December 07 2013 02:58 sandroba wrote:
@SS these are a bit different from the other game, and started to happen after I've called him out on it. Did you read the filter LSB posted?
no not yet. wait a minute.
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@MZ kenpachi is chezinu. Again, take your time and read the game please.
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On December 07 2013 02:57 sandroba wrote:
LSB, the draft order is a lot more usefull than the player list. geript claimed twitch and you missed a hidden claim too.
Mocsta said he went for fiddles. You guys better start reading the game.
Draft orders can be easily found by clicking on the Pick Phase, while list positions are not preserved so that's why I chose to display it like this.
Thanks for the update
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i have scumreads it's just that my townreads are more reliable and change less often.
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On December 07 2013 02:52 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 02:43 LSB wrote:On December 07 2013 02:40 sandroba wrote:On December 07 2013 02:32 LSB wrote:On December 07 2013 02:30 sandroba wrote:On December 07 2013 02:24 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow really detailed explanation of power usage thought process mz. He seems definitely town from that post alone I'm going to use all dmg I may or may not have on you tonight. Not because I think you are scum, but because you annoy me greatly saying everyone in the game is town. I don't fucking care who is town I want some fucking scum to lynch. Who do you have left that CAN be scum? Yo sandroba, Kushm4sta is scum, read his filter and lynch him with me On December 07 2013 02:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On December 07 2013 02:32 LSB wrote:On December 07 2013 02:30 sandroba wrote:On December 07 2013 02:24 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow really detailed explanation of power usage thought process mz. He seems definitely town from that post alone I'm going to use all dmg I may or may not have on you tonight. Not because I think you are scum, but because you annoy me greatly saying everyone in the game is town. I don't fucking care who is town I want some fucking scum to lynch. Who do you have left that CAN be scum? Yo sandroba, Kushm4sta is scum, read his filter and lynch him with me Yo sandroba, LSB is scum, read his filter and lynch him with me? Prove it. I'm all ears. I've read this game a trillion times already and I can't get anywhere. All he has been doing is calling people town. He isn't trying to actually find scum, he is trying to make friends so people believe he is a friendly townie. No one wants to lynch someone who defended you right? Or so he thinks My push post is here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=179#3574 The meta comparisson is pretty good actually. The other game you lynched kush indeed called a bunch of people town, but was pretty adamant with his scum reads as well. Something that is missing from this game as compared to the other is that he always proposes possible scum along with his current townie reads.
EBWOP: "The other game you linked, kush..."
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So, LSB why do you think I'm Twisted Fate?
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On December 07 2013 03:00 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 02:58 sandroba wrote:
@SS these are a bit different from the other game, and started to happen after I've called him out on it. Did you read the filter LSB posted? no not yet. wait a minute.
LBS, what game was that? I need the gamesize. I think players play differently depending on the game sizes.
I usually play more friendly and less controlling in larger games.
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im playing in a different way this game than how i normally play. Ive basically given up try to read the whole thread, and I only read stuff on pages where I talk. Then I go back and look at filters people or cases direct me to.
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On December 07 2013 02:58 sandroba wrote:
@SS these are a bit different from the other game, and started to happen after I've called him out on it. Did you read the filter LSB posted?
that is true. I couldn't see that in his filter. But you need to keep in mind that also the game didnt really require scumreads earlier on, when we discussed bans/picks etc.
And the fact that he changed his play isn't incriminating him. I change my play as town, too if people get uncomfortable with my play.
I need this meta compharison now... what game was it?
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