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Meapak_Ziphh
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I like geript. Have him as town atm. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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VE, gtrsrs, jay, supersoft? | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6788 Posts
On November 30 2013 17:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sounds really good, except for Sandroba. I think he was jsut posting general stuff about "bad roles for the town" and being very wishy-washy about it (like jay was) ending the post in "what do you guys think" -> gave no real opinion. Firstly THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL POST. THE EDIT WAS AN ACCIDENT. FUCK I AM SORRY WOS. Secondly, assuming I don't get modkilled, I totally agree that sandro has only posted general stuff, my reasons for including him were simply reputation and I like what he's done thus far more than some of the other people who have posted. It was him or someone who hasn't posted yet lol. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
And also ticklishmusic | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6788 Posts
On November 30 2013 17:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: What do you think of the following people; VE, gtrsrs, jay, supersoft? gtrsrs has one post? VE is VE. As horrible of reasoning as that is I have a townish vibe simply because I've played so many games with him and have seen this behavior so often. jay played the "I'm bad at town so bad players call me scum" card which I don't like supersoft wants KP but then again he always does when he's town so I don't read too much into that yet. ticklishmusic has two posts. Not gonna lie, kinda disappointed you wanted my opinion on these people, two of them have nothing to go off of. I'd like you to explain your geript read and give me your thoughts on rean. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + [1] [1] raynpelikoneet - obv town [2] [1] OdinOfPergo - unless changed his meta 100% town. [3] [1] JonnyLaw - making plans, although they were a bit meh, usually this early it's a town tell. [4] [1] Rean - aggressive and posting feels genuine. [5] [1] geript - probably town for this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=13#247 Starts scumhunting asap and noticed jay's terribad post. [6] [1] Meapak_Ziphh - good town reads (except for Sandroba) here; http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=17#338 jcarlsoniv onlywonderboy Roffles BloodyC0bbler Risen Kenpachi Bill Murray Kurumi StorrZerg Mig marvellosity justanothertownie bumatlarge nyxnyxnyx Mocsta - wants to ban the trap role-cop. why? it's a strong role for the town and not so for scum (because passive). Koshi - wants to ban the 3-way KP role. bad, really bad, that's a good role. austinmcc - posted some fluff shit Oatsmaster - posted some fluff shit, also posting in LXIII but not in PYP. Why? ticklishmusic - wants to ban the GF. says nothing else, no reasoning or whatever. Another bad post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=14#263 If he is not a newbie i'd say scum. [27] [1] sandroba - leaning scum for this post that ends up in "what do you guys think". give opinion if you are thinking something: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=13#251 [28] [1] supersoft - fucking idiotic "let the vets pick first" plan again. you're dumb or scum. horrible post about ban strategy. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=13#241 [29] [1] jaybrundage - bad wishywashy opening post, pointed it out here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=17#322 [30] [1] gtrsrs - terrible opening post, didn't comment on anything discussed http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=17#333 [31] [1] VisceraEyes - in the beginning said nothing at all, laid back and insecure. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6788 Posts
On November 30 2013 17:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: I hate giving people spots or some "extra priviliges" based on reputation. That's retarded. I feel the same way, however you asked for five names and I don't think there's anyone else in the thread aside from the people who I mentioned who I'd rather give a top five spot to other than sandro, and yes that does have to do with his reputation. It won't save me from lynching him if I think he's scum, but when it comes to picks I still like him more than the rest of the people who have posted aside from the ones I picked. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Yorick isn't really that scary, flips are overrated. We need to know who has Victor and Warwick and any others not banned from above from what I can tell. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6788 Posts
Firstly, thanks for having the posts linked. I don't think we'll agree on sandro atm, I agree my reasons are bad, but it's picking the shinniest of the turds atm. It's only a few hours into the game so I think the best thing is to let it develop more. VE is always insecure. Like literally always. You may be right about sandro being scum but if there's one thing I can tell you in a game of mafia is when VE is town. One thing I think people need to watch for is supersoft's aggression level, because if he gets the KP he wants he will suddenly get hyper aggressive. This isn't necessarily alignment indicative but who he threatens will be. I think jay would be a decent early lynch target. Finally, as much as I think you're probably town right now, I strongly caution you against making a pick order like this. You can't control if the people towards the end pick lower numbers and fuck over your entire plan. A variant of this plan is trotted out every PYP game because inevitably the people who are last pick higher. Not because they're scum but because they joined a PYP game to play fun roles. Also while it's simple in theory to figure out who broke the plan, it's always much harder in practice. I will refrain from sending in my numbers and see if you can get people on board with your plan but I just wanted to caution you of the downsides. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6788 Posts
On November 30 2013 18:05 bumatlarge wrote: I think in some order, Urgot, Heimerdinger, Graves, Nocturne or Janna need to be banned. Yorick isn't really that scary, flips are overrated. We need to know who has Victor and Warwick and any others not banned from above from what I can tell. I disagree completely, flips are one of the strongest assets to the town. Like I said earlier, anything that denies town information is bad. Anyway its 1am and I'm jet lagged. I'll see everyone tomorrow. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 30 2013 18:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: notes on your notes: Firstly, thanks for having the posts linked. I don't think we'll agree on sandro atm, I agree my reasons are bad, but it's picking the shinniest of the turds atm. It's only a few hours into the game so I think the best thing is to let it develop more. VE is always insecure. Like literally always. You may be right about sandro being scum but if there's one thing I can tell you in a game of mafia is when VE is town. One thing I think people need to watch for is supersoft's aggression level, because if he gets the KP he wants he will suddenly get hyper aggressive. This isn't necessarily alignment indicative but who he threatens will be. I think jay would be a decent early lynch target. Finally, as much as I think you're probably town right now, I strongly caution you against making a pick order like this. You can't control if the people towards the end pick lower numbers and fuck over your entire plan. A variant of this plan is trotted out every PYP game because inevitably the people who are last pick higher. Not because they're scum but because they joined a PYP game to play fun roles. Also while it's simple in theory to figure out who broke the plan, it's always much harder in practice. I will refrain from sending in my numbers and see if you can get people on board with your plan but I just wanted to caution you of the downsides. I know the pick order plan won't most likely succeed because there are always some idiots who won't agree to any plan. However that's my plan and i'll go with it, people agree or they don't, i don't care. As i said i am pretty good in finding townies and in last PYP game i would have assigned 6/6 townies in top of the picking order based on the first ~18h of the game. I can read VE well too i think. town!VE is not wishy-washy. VE here is wishy-washy as hell. I asked him about his playername. He did not give an answer. He had no real opinions on anything, he "maybe thought" some people were town for some reasons. He's also not "happy" as he usually is. I would expect him to be more interested in the game than he is atm. I am not confident in my reads on supersoft and Sndroba but that's where i stand atm. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 30 2013 18:11 bumatlarge wrote: Assisted KP roles. They are stronger with partners. Seems abusable for mafia, but not town. I'm thinking Urgot, Graves, Nocturne > Janna and Heimer, but I'd like to know who would be getting those roles rather then someone sniping them. I also disagree with this. Assisted KP-roles are a good tell. Mafia won't want to (if they get the role) give turrets etc to town unless they are sure that townie will hit another townie. Therefore watchers and trackers in addition to these roles and people's reads are terrific. Assisted KP roles in game is far better than info-denying roles like framer or janitor. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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geript
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I'm going to be 100% honest here people. I'll probably end up voting for Rayn's ban targets, but I don't think it matters whatsoever. I know who I'm going to try to pick regardless of where I pick (unless I end up with a super prime spot). Roles for the most part don't matter. I expect that scum will only be nixing the super-pro-towny roles. Without knowing the Scum KP and # of Scum and 3P stuff our guessing on who to ban is just that. Any reasonable 3 are likely to do fine. It's far better to "waste" the day scumhunting than worrying about bans. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
You're quite obviously town. | ||
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