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@ Jay
I don't think it's a terrible idea. I will however stand by my previous statement. Yes we could try to force scum to play from the end of the Q in a risk of a lynch.. but they could also try to push a agenda for a mislych on a (I'm going to go out on a limb here) a townie that's probably going to lurk for the first 30 hours. (IE, Mocsta has already said he will be afk for the first 30 or so hours. From the past few games I've played I have a strong belief that several others will probably not be around immediately either. All the while an active mafia member could pull enough townie points to be high in the order regardless.
But from your perspective I can see the relevance of this. Scum can just play pro-townie in the picks/bans phase to get a high #. There is no reason we shouldn't do something to at least try to fight for the slots instead of not doing anything.
@Geript
Ok. It seems like you don't play League.
So I hope you don't take this response as aggressive because I really don't intent it to be that way.
If you're not one of SKT's members then you're town.
Thus Rean being Doublelift makes him not scum.
We can't say this is for sure because it's so early in the game.
Rean's roleplaying Lift doesn't mean that he is ACTUALLY Liftlift.
Jay just clarified his stance on this in a previous post above this..
I'm inclined to follow the same logic here.
Either I can believe that Rean is fake claiming Doublelift (Liftlift or w/e nickname... just wiki SKT for their members... anyone not on that list is not scum. We should probably clarify if it's the S3 roster or the new S4 roster.. I'm assuming SKT T1 roles are based off of currently members when they played in the World Finals?
And shit up the thread 3 hours into picks/bans by claiming he is scum..
Or I can just roll with it and try to feel out players in this game as they become active.
Sub version would be:
We can't know Rean's alignment off what he has post.
You can take his statement with a grain of salt and focus on moving the thread forward.
Or you can take his statement with a grain of salt and clog up the thread.
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Ye actually to clarify, I kind of like your idea of trying to push scum to the back of the Q Jay.
I'll have to think about it for a while..
But we should at least do something to try to fight for slots.
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Can you guys stop shitting up this thread with bullshit discussions about my alignment based on me RPing as DL. It doesn't say shit about my alignment and discussing it is a waste of time, we should worry about bans instead.
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Hmmm...
100% bans should be Yorick and Graves at least.
Yorick - Delaying flip results for a night is disastrous for the town. This ability is strait terrorizing for the town.
This champ needs banned 100%. Yes, if he gets picked we will know the first time he uses his ability.. But we will then have to try to pick out which summoner is using him. Town looses so much information any cycle Yorick uses this. This champ needs banned.
Graves - Returning opposite alignment checks is sooooo bad for town. This ability is in no way, shape, or form useful to the town. It only serves the mafia. The only hesitation I'd have against this ban would be the fact that the scum would have to be convincingly town to have their results held up by the town during a lynch. We have strong players here. We should just ban this champ.
I'm still in the air about the third ban so I'll spare posting about it for now.
Alright though, it's really late and the threads died out for the moment anyway.. So I'm off to sleep. I'll be back after work tomorrow.
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Yorick's already has enough votes.
I'll be around tomorrow for a good amount of time before pick/ban ends. Until then I'm placing my vote.
##Vote Amumu
If Amumu manages to live throughout a few phases this player could devastate the town. Anti-vote seems hard to track or link to a particular player. Should get rid of it in my opinion.
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Oh I should vote for bans before I crash..
so..
##Ban Yorick
##Ban Graves
Is the ##ban format acceptable for bans or does it need to be ##vote?
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ebwop please ignore my previous question about the SKT line-up. They just changed the name not the player line up. I'm retarded.
OK Goodnight!
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We ban the janitor and the delay flips at least.
I am still going to pick [1] [1] , i hope if you are town you won't pick it, because i will devote the game into killing whoever does pick [1] [1] with me. :p
OdinOfPergo should pick [2] [1] and noone else should do that.
I am goot at this shit and i suggest you guys listen to me. Last PYP my plan failed because of some retarded townies went "i sent in my picks already and i am not gonna change it, so stfu" - wfter i had assigned 6 people into numbers 1-6. all of those people were town. I'll update the list as i find more townies.
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I don't think Amumu (anti-vote) should be banned at all. It's pretty easy to deny the role from being used properly and while it does not serve real purpose to the town town should not pick it. What's the idea of banning it when you can just agree to not use powers on the player who has it? Otherwise the role is pretty useless so i don't give a shit if scum picks a role that may. be useful on something like D4 lol.
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Good points about Graves and Yorick. Still want to include Talon.
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Rayn do you think the Amumu suggestion is scummy?
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Like people have brought up Talon for and against banning, why no mention?
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On November 30 2013 15:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn do you think the Amumu suggestion is scummy?
I don't think it's necessarily scummy, just not well thought out.
I don't think the Godfather should be banned. I think it should be denied in top ~8 players instead.
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Framer is far more dangerous than GF imo.
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I am pretty sure there was a Ligthing rod role in the list yesterday. Am i blind or dreaming?
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VE do you agree Odin is town?
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On November 30 2013 16:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE do you agree Odin is town?
Ehhhhh....yeah sure. I haven't played with him at all to my recollection, but he seems to be actually thinking about the game in a way that doesn't seem even remotely designed to "appear contributory". If his activity drops when actual stuff is in the thread ask me again, but I'll say he looks town right now.
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On November 30 2013 16:17 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 16:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE do you agree Odin is town? Ehhhhh....yeah sure. I haven't played with him at all to my recollection, but he seems to be actually thinking about the game in a way that doesn't seem even remotely designed to "appear contributory". If his activity drops when actual stuff is in the thread ask me again, but I'll say he looks town right now.
Quite an interesting read..
What separates him from other people who are thinking about the game, like jay or Johnnylaw?
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or Rean. Actually Rean is the one i want you to answer about the most.
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Not much I'm similarly not worried about Jay or Johnny.
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