EPTCould we get a quick run down of your top lynch candidates at this point? Your scale is nice and all, but trying to read through your long posts without any easy formatting for your "grades" makes it a bit difficult to see how your rating system is actually ranking all these people you're writing about.
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
Could we get a quick run down of your top lynch candidates at this point? Your scale is nice and all, but trying to read through your long posts without any easy formatting for your "grades" makes it a bit difficult to see how your rating system is actually ranking all these people you're writing about. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
2= likely town 3= null 4= willing to lynch 5= preferred lynch If you can't distill my reads from my posts you aren't reading them. Its night time I don't feel a need to lay out my top priority lynches in order for you. If I die I have an awesome filter for you to read. If I live we can talk about it when I push I lynch. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
i know relatively few of you and have played mafia with even fewer. i don't know your traits when you are mafia or town. however, some of you i know well or even very well. as bum_at_large pointed out, he and i have been friends for years. i felt very strongly that bum was doing his normal bum thing - being analytical, making logical posts, and being pro-town - and that he was town. one of the only other people that i can claim to know their personality is jacarlsoniv (henceforth referred to as soniv). i've played league with soniv, posted in the league sub-forum with soniv, and watched soniv's sparse streaming for a couple years now. as i stated earlier, On December 04 2013 02:28 gtrsrs wrote: certain personal traits bleed through all activities and you carry them with you wherever you go. i know i do, why would you be different. i feel like although he's not my bestest buddy, i have a good read on soniv's overall personality. he thinks highly of himself as a strong player and intellectual, and he's a fierce competitor. when he's "winning" he's cocky and carefree, but when he is challenged, i believe that soniv becomes extremely defensive and can get emotional. it's a knee-jerk reaction that i've seen in playing with him (exasperated sighs and outbursts when his lane gets camped in league, banning viewers [read: me  ] when they comment on a mistake he makes on his stream, etc). i believe that soniv has taken a needlessly harsh and defensive stance on several comments made in his direction, many of which don't even point a ton of suspicion in his directioni'll start by cementing that i believe soniv is just being soniv and not changing up his personality for this game, as that's what i'm basing my case on: On December 04 2013 02:23 jcarlsoniv wrote: My propensity for playing less popular champs in game has 0 reflection on what role I chose in this game. This is 100% pointless speculation. ... but soniv's first post in the game was a quote from his favorite champ: On November 21 2013 03:13 jcarlsoniv wrote: Steel can fix all your flaws. this was also a response to me saying i hated viktor as a champion: On December 01 2013 10:18 jcarlsoniv wrote: wow you're going down gtr these second two posts are lighthearted, comfortable soniv posts. he's not under pressure, he's making jokes, he's referencing and defending his favorite champ. it's only after i create a seemingly worthless post about what i feel soniv picked (spurred by the fact that he breadcrumbed that he does no damage) that he became defensive about it: On December 04 2013 01:53 jcarlsoniv wrote: gtrsrs, there are plenty of people in this game who play league, your last posts have literally done nothing Do you have scum reads? Are you going to do anything useful this game? I'm sorry that you didn't get the role you wanted, but you're being counterproductive. On December 04 2013 02:23 jcarlsoniv wrote: Whenever you're ready to stop being a dumbass is good with me. the second he's put under the tiniest bit of pressure, no matter how tangential it may be, he retracts into a defensive, ad hominem style. so that's my setup. now i want to give 2 postulates that i've learned from playing forum mafia and epic mafia. 1) knowledge is power. mafia inherently has more knowledge than town, so doing actions that lead to town having more knowledge helps to level the playing field. yes, it can lead to revelations for the mafia as well, but remember, mafia has enough information to win the game from the start. mafia thrives in a suffocated, information-free town. 2) town needs to lynch mafia. town does not need to lynch lurkers, anti-town townies, pro-town townies, or blues. town needs to lynch mafia. this one is simple. you don't lynch someone because you don't like them, or because you have a weak lead on them. mafia members can subtly push for lynches on bad town and lurkers because it can feel like a "next best" option. 1) knowledge is power i agreed with a mass roleclaim plan. soniv did not: On December 02 2013 08:14 jcarlsoniv wrote: Trying to speculate doesn't really do all that much to help, tbh. Sure, we can make somewhat educated guesses, but they would still be complete guesses. We just don't know what the mods are hiding from us, and we know they can be creative. It doesn't hurt to be prepared for the mindset that there's so much we don't know. But trying to pinpoint what it will be is a fairly non-value add activity. soniv is in the wrong and roffles is in the right. i've tried to illuminate what several hot-topic champs can do so that we can help non-league players. information is power. soniv, however, wants to nip speculative and free discussion at the bud. in fact, when i've given my expertise, On December 04 2013 01:53 jcarlsoniv wrote: gtrsrs, there are plenty of people in this game who play league, your last posts have literally done nothing there is one role that he does want to find though: kassadin, a potentially scum-screwing role that will likely be able to dart out of trouble as well as screw up enemy actions: On December 03 2013 04:45 jcarlsoniv wrote: I do agree it would be good to know where Kass is. The one ability we know about is very strong and should be kept track of/utilized. I'm assuming his other ability is a self re-locator - his other skills in game wouldn't really make sense for this. this is because soniv, playing as SKT1'S Poohmandu (even getting one of his favorite hipster support champs, Janna!) wants to actively limit the amount of information that town has in order to both prevent town from getting too many power roles, and eliminate said power roles quickly. 2) town needs to lynch mafia, and no one else take a peek at soniv's filter, page 3. in the span of a few posts, he goes from On December 02 2013 22:20 jcarlsoniv wrote: Null on gtr for now, but certainly not leaning town. to On December 03 2013 01:23 jcarlsoniv wrote: So assuming nothing changes and we end up lynching gtr - who are you looking at next VE? it's subtle sheeping. town does not put their votes onto someone that they do not believe is mafia. it's a mafia tactic to subtly sheep votes onto people that others fine suspicious. however, soniv himself did not even put a vote on me, he voted for geript. he's sowing discord: On December 03 2013 23:35 jcarlsoniv wrote: I'm totally cool with killing gtrsrs at this point as well. Summary: Vote is staying on geript, I refuse to let him get away with this absolutely abysmal play. Towards the end of the day, I could get behind gtrsrs or, depending on how things develop for him, bum. literally no one thinks that i'm mafia at this point. my worst detractors think i'm unmotivated town. you don't lynch unmotivated town. points to soniv for keeping his vote on geript instead of hopping on the bum bandwagon, it was a nice cover-up. though a bit unnecessary as the wagon was rolling fast enough that he didn't even need to jump on tbh this post is the lynchpin for when i realized soniv was poohmandu: On December 04 2013 06:17 jcarlsoniv wrote: I'm saying that it has said that people using mafia roles should be lynched. Yours is considered a mafia role, as far as we know. If we are 100% sure that there are 5 scum next to you and you want to spin through them, whatever, I don't care. But otherwise you will be aiding scum. And even if you confirm yourself as Tryndamere by spinning through townies, how in the hell does that help you look town yourself? Why would we keep you around? again, it's subtle and it's not a direct statement. but soniv is pushing us toward lynching people based on their roles, not their alignment. town's job is to lynch mafia, not to lynch bad town that took a role that seems to aid mafia more than town. in fact, this post almost feels like a dare: "i dare you to spin [which would help mafia] to confirm your mafia-esque role so i can push a lynch on you, a townie." it's a big double whammy On December 04 2013 23:32 jcarlsoniv wrote: I want to lynch geript or gtrsrs at this point. Roffles play has been absolute shit, so he's leaning scum, but he could also just be fucking lazy as shit like he is in everything he does. more sheepy spam that's not backed up by a vote. if roffles is mafia, vote to lynch him. if he's not, don't say you think he is. but of course when i call him out on it, he retracts into defensive mode again: On December 05 2013 01:25 jcarlsoniv wrote: lol no go fucking read my filter... or do something Roffles is leaning scum, yes, but as I've said twice, his actions could or could not be indicative of such an alignment. I am not willing to lynch him yet. other post that bothered me: On December 04 2013 00:01 jcarlsoniv wrote: jat, I'm fine with you quoting posts to respond to, that's normal. that doesn't excuse the fact that you didn't actually say anything in your post hard to take seriously when at this point soniv himself has said nothing of worth it's cut and dry, challengers. this guy might be diamond V in league of legends but his mafia skill is silver II. sorry soniv, no hard feelings. your personality just shows through too much to me and betrays your actual intentions. ##vote: jcarsoniv also, make sure you touch up on bum's initial look at soniv. it didn't sway me at start, but once i picked up on a red vibe from soniv i looked back at it and agreed. seeya nerds | ||
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Risen
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Promethelax
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Coagulation
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Spoilered because I don't want it to clog the thread, but srs I'm annoyed. + Show Spoiler + The ONE thing I liked about kush was this quote: On August 21 2013 11:49 kushm4sta wrote: yo rayne you should smoke weed instead of drink alcohol then maybe you woulnd't be such an asshat Just stop. It's pretty irritating that you absolutely won't let go of the fact I suggested that I had considered you as scum, then took it back. Even when you stopped it, you continue to belittle everything I said. I understand that you are abrasive in Mafia. From what I've seen, you are also a good player. However, that abrasiveness, while probably useful as an overall Mafia player, really clogs up the info stream. I'm willing to look past you being a dick (to me) and take your posts at face value. You obviously are not willing to reciprocate. I've read a ton of mafia games at this point to try and get a handle on the behavior of other people. Noticed Koshi when I was looking at stuff for Kush, and I'm wondering why he's acting the way he is this game. It's like someone turned him into a chibi. Also like guitar's read on Soniv. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
Sorry in advance. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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justanothertownie
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On December 05 2013 05:40 Promethelax wrote: of all the filters to prioritize you are choosing the ones I suggested over the ones you were planning on doing? wat. So much wat. VE why is your tongue so deep in my asshole this game? Okay fuck your request bitch. I'll filter who I wanted to originally then. Jesus Christ. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
I'm willing to read into Rean if you are willing to respond to and interact with my cases/reads telling me what you agree with and what you disagree with and bringing new thoughts to the table. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On December 05 2013 05:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay fuck your request bitch. I'll filter who I wanted to originally then. Jesus Christ. No its a serious question, You don't get out of it by pretending to be mad. What is it about my play that has caused you to lodge your tongue in my rectum so thoroughly? Explain it to me, you aren't so lacking in confidence that you would follow my lead when I replaced in 20 hours ago and you've been here since the start without good reasons. Explain those reasons butt licker! | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
And you should probably wait until dawn breaks before tossing your vote on me. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On December 05 2013 05:46 Promethelax wrote: No its a serious question, You don't get out of it by pretending to be mad. What is it about my play that has caused you to lodge your tongue in my rectum so thoroughly? Explain it to me, you aren't so lacking in confidence that you would follow my lead when I replaced in 20 hours ago and you've been here since the start without good reasons. Explain those reasons butt licker! /ignored. /all Please report Promethelax for being a douche-twat feeding assbag. | ||
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justanothertownie
16341 Posts
On December 05 2013 05:44 Promethelax wrote: I have not looked at Rean at all. In all honesty what you have seen me post about in the thread composes 100% of what I have read of the game. I'm willing to read into Rean if you are willing to respond to and interact with my cases/reads telling me what you agree with and what you disagree with and bringing new thoughts to the table. This deal is not fair. Your posts are unbelievably long and there are probably more words in one of them than in Reans filter in total. But I promise another look at them after I have eaten something. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
Now do you want me to filter your choices or mine? Don't give me any "Oh he's trying to avoid giving us his own thoughts" bullshit Prom, answer my question. | ||
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justanothertownie
16341 Posts
On December 05 2013 05:47 VisceraEyes wrote: /ignored. /all Please report Promethelax for being a douche-twat feeding assbag. Or maybe you just calm down and explain yourself. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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