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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 04 2013 10:51 GMT
#2641
Pretty tired. If it means that much to you I can read you, I was going to put it off til I woke up.

yeah fuck it. Next post is geript filter dive. Why not?

Marv, I still think my point about jay holds. People come and go, they have lives. A decent amount of the time a delurk is just when someone has time to be in the thread. Comments on the authenticity of reading him based on not sending in numbers. I think that is the most important point in my Jay read and what really gets at the inherent reason he is town.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 04 2013 10:52 GMT
#2642
On December 04 2013 14:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 14:10 Mocsta wrote:
On December 04 2013 14:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You still have never providedany actual evidence why what you have said about Oats makes him scum.

Maybe, but I dunno if that is grounds to call Geript scum.

I actually think hes playing pretty well --> not shitting up the thread etc.

Idon't know what makes you think he is playing well?
He played "well" in LXI aswell, not shitting up the thread, making cases and so on. He is not actually doing anything useful here.
Vigi should shoot him.

No they shouldn't.

Lazy metric incoming - geript had 13 pages of filter in LXI over what, 7 or 8 cycles? He's on 9 pages here on Night 1. A pretty good reason to be looking elsewhere right now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
December 04 2013 10:53 GMT
#2643
Hey Koshi i get that you want to do funny inventions, but could you do funny useful inventions?
I could also protect Coagulation because it's funny but i won't because there are more useful targets.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 04 2013 10:54 GMT
#2644
On December 04 2013 19:24 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 19:19 Koshi wrote:
You think too highly of me. Maybe you should look in all my previous games and see how many times I pushed scum. The number is quite low. I am letting the smart people do stuff D1. N0 it looked like there were a lot of smart people.

Didn't you just get out of a game where you and only you pushed scum Rayn and you were right?

I should probly stop posting because I'm approaching don't give a fuck mode.

Well in WitchCraft I said rayn was scum but I replaced in and the peepz already in the game said rayn was town and I didn't push hard enough. rayn was scum and I was sad.

Then in the ongoing LXIII game I thought rayn was scum again and pushed him like I should have done in Noir and Witchraft. I actually got rayn lynched and he flipped town.

On December 04 2013 19:34 geript wrote:
Honestly Koshi I'm really pissed off at you. Like rayn says you're unlynchable right now (not actually but that he'd cockblock it). Like my first game with you I remember wanting to lymch you for coming across to me as dumb/newb/scum but not wanting to risk it. Here you're not wanting to participate for sounding dumb yet people aren't instantly taken to lynching you. IMO you're in my lynch it with fire zone and I'm not thinking twice right now.

Ok. It hurts me to see you sad.

What do you want me to do? I totes made a good case on Kurumi. Did you see how many people he called scum without reasoning? Did you see how he called BC "interesting" with false reasoning that he later couldn't explain? Did you see how he says xyz is scum and then 20 mins later says abx is scum?

But more importantly. Do you see that he had 3 full pages after 24 hours in D1, scumreads everywhere, but after I called him out he made 1 post in 30 hours?
On December 04 2013 19:13 Kurumi wrote:
So I have a question: why was bum lynched without much people against it while people were calling others super scummy? What was your plan? Lynch them d2? I feel very uneasy about Koshi: he is a claimed inventor, knows that things can go terribly wrong n1 and he does nothing d1. Look man, if your line of thought was: "if I play bad maybe they will forget about me" then it is really stupid. Rayn claims to be able to protect you for a long time, why fear anything? Even if so, you should do a lot d1! I am happy Promethelax replaced in, Viscera started playing. Looking forward to playing with you guys. Now back to school. Will filter dive when I am back home.

The only scumread am I? And when I called him out he said this:
On December 03 2013 07:55 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 06:59 Koshi wrote:
On December 03 2013 06:58 Kurumi wrote:
On December 03 2013 06:13 Koshi wrote:
I am totes here.

Kurumi is scummy in my eyes. Reason? Picked warwick while not knowing how he worked. But then knew it anyway. Also saying crazy stuff like scum having abilities outside the heroes.

I was working under assumption that Warwick was an Assassin from other games we've known. It turned out to be true. When did I say anything about scum having abilities outside the heroes?

Quick question.
Is rayn town?
Am I town?

Rayn is town.
As for you, I have mixed feelings because of that invention shenanigans, but I am leaning town. I mean, you never said anything what would put me off in a scummy way and you are around.

So. I totes shot scum Kurumi down and now he is in totes panick mode because he knows I will call him out on his shitty "gutty" scumreads and he doesn't know what to type. So he attacks me a bit.



I haven't done anything else yet. Nor read into anybody else. I need to find a good target for my invention. Also, hosts need to reply to my idea. It will be epic.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 04 2013 10:56 GMT
#2645
On December 04 2013 19:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Koshi i get that you want to do funny inventions, but could you do funny useful inventions?
I could also protect Coagulation because it's funny but i won't because there are more useful targets.

I am just tricking the scummers thinking I will be useless.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 04 2013 10:57 GMT
#2646
I'm pretty sure Koshi is not an idiot, he has been provided with ideas, and he will choose a good invention, whether it be his own or someone else's idea. We can judge him if he doesn't do something good. There's not much point poking him about it in the interim.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 04 2013 10:58 GMT
#2647
On December 04 2013 19:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So nothing happened besides Koshi posting a list of inventions that are 90% terribad.:/
Koshi any sort of investigation items are the best.

I was just about to comment on how many of them were KP or RB or a mix. And you're not bothered by the fact that he's done nothing day 1 and gotten away with it and you're feeding his trolling and you're not even willing to fucking tell him to not make KP and make investigation stuff. Instead you're very, extremely unconcerned about Koshi who is and actually has been part of your plan, the person you're claiming to shield from damage for 2 days, not following through on YOUR PLAN. But you wanted to bitch at me for not liking your plan whatsoever and not coming up with a better one. Really Rayn?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 04 2013 11:02 GMT
#2648
On December 04 2013 19:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Koshi i get that you want to do funny inventions, but could you do funny useful inventions?
I could also protect Coagulation because it's funny but i won't because there are more useful targets.

Also, if you are also tricking the scummers and you will in secret protect marv there will be no hard feelings.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 04 2013 11:03 GMT
#2649
On December 04 2013 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
MZ what do you think of this:
Show nested quote +
I wonder what's up with the fact that VE in fact IS a highly influential player and capable of pushing lynches. Yet he did not try to push LSB lynch but still seemed to think LSB was a better lynch than bum.

Do you think VE is just lazy or does he have some other agenda of not really wanting to lynch LSB?
For me it didn't really seem like he was trying to lynch his top read.

I'm not really sure this is true or fair. I think he did actually. It's also a bit of a struggle to imagine that probably the highest-placed scumplayer on the draft would really pick Lux for some WIFOM-reasons when it's a useless role for mafia to pick.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 04 2013 11:07 GMT
#2650
But you really should protect me. Because my second spell is also very good.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
December 04 2013 11:08 GMT
#2651
On December 04 2013 19:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 14:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 04 2013 14:10 Mocsta wrote:
On December 04 2013 14:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You still have never providedany actual evidence why what you have said about Oats makes him scum.

Maybe, but I dunno if that is grounds to call Geript scum.

I actually think hes playing pretty well --> not shitting up the thread etc.

Idon't know what makes you think he is playing well?
He played "well" in LXI aswell, not shitting up the thread, making cases and so on. He is not actually doing anything useful here.
Vigi should shoot him.

No they shouldn't.

Lazy metric incoming - geript had 13 pages of filter in LXI over what, 7 or 8 cycles? He's on 9 pages here on Night 1. A pretty good reason to be looking elsewhere right now.

So is Koshi scum, he has usually at least 12 pages of filter after 2 day phases?
Okay vigi should not shoot geript, vigis should shoot all the people with 1 page of filter. But it does not change the fact that geript is scum. He is good player as town and this is nowhere near good. Like kushmasta who clearly does has not cared about the game besides one read has done much more. geript has shouted to peole left and right and had some scumreads i have no idea why they are scum.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 04 2013 11:08 GMT
#2652
oh, you said this yourself a little later rayn. That's why you finish reading the thread and THEN post.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 04 2013 11:11 GMT
#2653
On December 04 2013 20:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 19:52 marvellosity wrote:
On December 04 2013 14:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 04 2013 14:10 Mocsta wrote:
On December 04 2013 14:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You still have never providedany actual evidence why what you have said about Oats makes him scum.

Maybe, but I dunno if that is grounds to call Geript scum.

I actually think hes playing pretty well --> not shitting up the thread etc.

Idon't know what makes you think he is playing well?
He played "well" in LXI aswell, not shitting up the thread, making cases and so on. He is not actually doing anything useful here.
Vigi should shoot him.

No they shouldn't.

Lazy metric incoming - geript had 13 pages of filter in LXI over what, 7 or 8 cycles? He's on 9 pages here on Night 1. A pretty good reason to be looking elsewhere right now.

So is Koshi scum, he has usually at least 12 pages of filter after 2 day phases?
Okay vigi should not shoot geript, vigis should shoot all the people with 1 page of filter. But it does not change the fact that geript is scum. He is good player as town and this is nowhere near good. Like kushmasta who clearly does has not cared about the game besides one read has done much more. geript has shouted to peole left and right and had some scumreads i have no idea why they are scum.

I think geript is town. Simply enough. Don't think he'd be this active or care this much as mafia. Maybe the way he pushed Oats is bad or something but that doesn't make him mafia. Don't see why you think geript is good as town (no offence geript) but I also think plenty of what he said evidenced proper thinking about the game. He was wrong about bum (so was I) but he picked out bum's progression on the jcarl read, he said interesting things about jay's paranoia on his read on me (whether correct or not) and other interesting things. I just don't see why he should be mafia.

Koshi often has really slow starts to games. My notes in LXII I gave him a weird townread because I couldn't believe he'd be so useless as mafia. In ## I was suspicious on Day 1 for being useless and by mid-Day 2 he was my strongest townread.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2013 11:11 GMT
#2654
hihi prome.
I kinda disagree about both Jay and JLaw.
It seems to me that jay had a gameplan coming into this game, antangonize marv, claim best mislynch NA and do nothing. He couldve just forgotten to send in numbers or send it to the wrong account. Not alignment indicative IMO. So yeah scummy for me.

Im leaning town on JLaw cause his stuff looks genuine, yeah some of it is bad but kush plays bad and seems like town this game, why does bad mean JLaw is scum, your second point is basically bad play. Unlike LSB who is intentionally not doing anything other than his plan.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2013 11:12 GMT
#2655
lol rayn, posting habits do tell you who is town at the very extremes. For example, if someone has a 40 page filter at the end of day 3, he is very very likely town. If he only has a 5 page filter, that does NOT mean he is scum though. So it is only applicable for 1 alignment.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
December 04 2013 11:13 GMT
#2656
On December 04 2013 20:08 marvellosity wrote:
oh, you said this yourself a little later rayn. That's why you finish reading the thread and THEN post.

You are the only player i have ever played with who i allow to post before reading the thread without getting extremely irritated with them. Because it's pretty easy to say where you are at that moment and the evolvement of your thought process is clearly to be seen from those posts.

justanothertownie i think you should stop call this man scum, it's pretty easy to figure out he's not.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
December 04 2013 11:14 GMT
#2657
On December 04 2013 20:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
lol rayn, posting habits do tell you who is town at the very extremes. For example, if someone has a 40 page filter at the end of day 3, he is very very likely town. If he only has a 5 page filter, that does NOT mean he is scum though. So it is only applicable for 1 alignment.

Yet the town lynched me in LXIII. What gives?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
December 04 2013 11:14 GMT
#2658
I was pretty obviously town.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 04 2013 11:18 GMT
#2659
Doesn't make the metric wrong, it makes the people who lynched you baddies :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 04 2013 11:18 GMT
#2660
Enough about an ongoing game though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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