PYP: League of Legends Mafia - Page 12

On December 07 2013 11:41 Risen wrote:
Don't like the people on the other two

On December 07 2013 11:52 Risen wrote:

What else is new, though!

This post makes me think you're scum trying to drop a wifom bomb before you die.

On December 02 2013 14:50 Mocsta wrote:

SS - Null.
Most of his posts are setup speculation which is acceptable either alignment at this phase of the game.
I admit I haven't played with a scum SS; but I also havent played with a pleasant one either. It makes me naturally assume something is different. Hes active though which is a good sign too. Yes, null.

Geript - Soft town lean.
Trolling Geript is null. But this Geript appears to be trying to push the thread into a certain direction - using reasoning vs slander. I also like that he is trying to make "look at me statements" to be noticed. He *wants* the attention. For this stage of the game I think thats pretty townie.

OdinOfPergo - Null to soft scum lean
Very setup oriented filter so i dont place a lot value in having activity. Half the stuff hes takling about I have no idea about because I'm not familiar with LoL. Hes also got an early Day0 obsession with Jay which hasn't relented, yet, he seems to be asking the opinion of others rather than talk to Jay to firm up a read?. This is kinda reminding me of how I approached Storrzerg in Mafia LXIII.

Storrzerg - Null
No idea, nothing really to work off

Sandroba - Null
Sandroba is known for good plans as town so its natural for him to easily receive buy-in // propose something conceived pre-game.
Hes also known for lurking as scum. Hes given reasoning for lack of activity, so I think he will become pretty clear over the next 48hrs especially with roles being out.

gtrsrs - Soft town lean
I hate players like this. Troll. Its pretty light hearted, and the joke he made on Sandroba made me laugh, which is probably a good sign - as joviality is hard to fake. Most of the stuff is selfish setup talk which probably indicates town that will be useless to moving the thread forward i.e. the usual TL sign up these days.

Oatsmaster - ??
It looks like hes trying to stir the pot intentionally.
He seriously couldnt think that SS vet idea was good...
I honestly have no idea how to read this guy anymore, he used to have direction in his pushes as town. Tips??

Justanothertownie - Null to Soft scum lean
He is uncharacteristically active/assertive. The games I played with JAT he was pretty timid. Here he is calling people stupid and just in general seems to be on edge. I find he also talks to Rayn as if auto-assuming Rayn is town. White knighting?

On December 04 2013 00:01 Mocsta wrote:

I don't find my play fits into any category of my usual standard, because I am barely playing.

Like I said before I'm struggling due to the early game.
Every filter I have read has so much setup talk and I just go "ugggh"

Why can't I be a sheep for once?

On December 04 2013 01:07 Mocsta wrote:

##Unvote

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jonnylaw
First off, I think he "stole" my hero - so I might be prejudiced.

Reading his filter I'm at loggerheads.

- I cant follow his reads mid Day1 - they read like checklists and with some of the reads I dont even know if the lean is town or null.
- I find him to be a lot more direct/assertive during the pick phase. Coupled with the point above I find pretty scummy.
- Has a read on OWB/Kush.. that is weird.
      On one hand he is making some effort in his filter to push it, and on the other hand I don't feel he is making an effort to strengthen his read by talking to Kush.
- I do like how he plays early Day 1 with Geript/Jay. It felt like he was stopping that feud and then tried to generate discussion with the right level of assertiveness.
- I also misread him earlier when I said he +1'd me. That was prob OMGUS of me. Having said that, I dont see why it is relevant to call me out for making excuses. Doesn't take it anywhere either.

Overall
I think he has good potential to be scum.
I really want to see him push his prime read (Kush) more.
+ I'm not sure if knowing he is a newbie is affecting my read.

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Bumatlarge

I dont like this post. To me its overplayed enthusiasm. Realistically, did my vote make a difference to the outcome?
I just dont see the point to it other than filler.


- I noticed in his list of heroes split into town/defensive/mafia that my hero is not listed - even though it had KP.
This makes me wonder what else was left out? Prob a null point, with so many heroes its hard to keep on top of them all.

I don't like this. I never called jcarl scum. Ironically, I take issue with bum here for the blatant appeal to ego

- I'm struggling to follow his train of thought. Still very setup focused
- I dont get his stance on JL. Regarding the accidental vote, I'm not even sure if Bum is reading carefully if he points this out as non-accidental?
- His read on LSB (who I haven't read yet) looks like hes leaving himself a backdoor.
- I dont see where the Geript reads materialised?
- I do like how persistent he is with Jcarl, but I dont know why he is so *certain* of this read. It felt really odd in tone to be included with his SK retort.


Overall
I'm really struggling to understand his line of thought/reasoning.
Pick Phase he read like an excited kid gleefully figuring out which present to unwrap on Christmas Day.
Im not getting that anymore. I think its unusual for town to be so stubborn on a lynch candidate this early. I think he also backpedaled his read on LSB when pressured by Marv in a scummy/wishy-washy way.
I'm really disliking the continued setup speculation about powers and ultimates etc as well.

Yeah, I can definitely vote this slot.
##Vote: Bumatlarge

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LSB
- Vote on me is terrible. At least he dropped it without pressure.

I'm really struggling to read his filter. Its painful.
I disagree with what he is doing on so many levels (role fishing, policy lynching, list summaries) but at the same time I can't imagine a scum player being this ballsy. Surely it would have to set a precedent for bold play.

Considering he was onto bum quite early; i dont see why scum would need to bus. so i am kinda association reading him as town.

On December 09 2013 11:31 Mocsta wrote:

Nope?

Your in my top 3 scum reads. Its called pressure.

If I'm being offensive, let me know and I can try tone it down a dial.
Works pretty stressful this time of year, so maybe its carrying through - dunno.

On December 09 2013 11:50 JonnyLaw wrote:
Mocsta you don't offend me. Your posting style just comes off nervous and pushy rather than leading and convincing. What I said wasn't referring to your pressure. That's fine.

Coag could be scum. That's what I said. Roffles could be scum. Voting yourself and throwing out random damage are both scummy. Mig's doing the same thing. Comes in, drops some damage and posts a bit of nothing then leaves.

I don't know how to differentiate between the behavior of those three. This becomes more difficult since I don't think kush is scum. He seems misguided but his posts feel genuine, unlike your posting.

On December 11 2013 09:58 Mocsta wrote:
This game seriously...

*I* have been pushing for a JL lynch since Day fucking One, and everyone disses it -- even when a flipped townie came to the same conclusion as me.

Like fuck this.

My case on JL hasn't changed because hes done *NOTHING* since. The case simply can not evolve; and now suddenly you guys want to shoot him.

don't get me wrong, *PLEASE SHOOT/LYNCH HIM* but this is fucking frustrating.

In my opinion: The real question should be:
With towns limited KP, who do we want to lynch next cycle.

Because there is zero value to shooting someone to 50% and then lynching them....

Thus, to shoot JL we need a solid alternative to consider lynching next cycle.
e.g. Kush or LSB

So either
Shoot JL and lynch 1 of {Kush, LSB}
or
Shoot 1 of {Kush, LSB} and lynch JL


I prefer lynching JL, because I am very confident he is scum.
So I advocate shooting someone like LSB --> because he is of higher value to scum as a hero than a VT Kush

On December 12 2013 15:59 Mocsta wrote:

Vote (1): Kush -
Guy was campaigning to save Coag using faulty logic and just enough wishy-washyness to allow him to move his vote as required.

Tush never talks about JL except for a very bizarre spoiled post:
This itself is a very awkward exchange and reads quite forced to me.

Kush then proceeds to list him as a scum read *ONLY* when hes become a popular choice; never commenting that I have been gunning for JL since Day dot (and as I am Kush's prime scum read, this should have occured)

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Vote (2): Between LSB, MZ, Risen

Risen - Has JK power, so may have been a source of scum RB --> again, protecting JL was too obvious a move I think
That aside, his contributions have been weak (which is probably a slight town lean for Risen)
However, I don't understand why Rayn thought Risen is town from the mason logs.
Its all Rayn saying "XYZ" and Risen saying "+1".
Very rarely, if at all, does Risen contribute first. (which i think is a scum lean for anyone).

Overall, Im pretty confused on Risen. I really would expect a scum Risen to be more vocal in general.
If the team is full of "JL" though, hes probably demoralised?? I would think leave this guy alone till later.

MZ - This ult thing is funny & i'm sick of him only coming into the thread when under pressure.
Very similar attitude to jonny regarding thread input.
I would seriously consider him as my second vote.
But I can't get over the austin/roffles/MZ 3-way. In my head, all 3 horses were pretty even. If MZ is scum; I dont see why they wouldnt jump on Austin vs Roffles. This reads to me like they didnt care who was lynched, they just wanted an easy peace-out vote.

LSB - Doesn't give a shit about the game. This is clear - its all token effort.
Doesnt even follow up on his night action summaries - which was his only useful contribution.
I just can't think of a pro for LSB in general.

##Vote: Kush
##Vote: LSB