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On December 04 2013 06:31 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I read Bum. I am not convinced he is scum. The only thing that looks really bad to me is how he tried to justify lynching jcarl over LSB. He tried to organize town and was one of the few people with a plan before the rolepicking. I also don't see the reason for him to claim picking tryndamere and not following through as scum. The only instance this makes a tiny bit of sense to me is if he is scum with LSB. If Bum took trynn as scum, he wouldn't ever be able to justify using it. Trynn is actually terrible for scum. It's pretty obivious when you are moving 5 pos and hitting people randomly that you aren't town. And if you don't plan on doing that why take it in the first place? Better to take some concentrated kp to eliminate threats quickly. But if he faked taking trynn and took something else it would give him town cred for never using the ability plus it would allow him to use whichever other role without suspicion. Too bad for him LSB didn't read the thread and randomly took trynn.
IF you believe he's capable of this as town, then you have to believe he's capable of the same as scum, including visiting his QT before posting or picking. I don't understand why you think that if he's scum he has to check the QT before he picks. Further I don't understand why you think that he wouldn't pick Tryn even though Bum said he was picking it. Like, I almost guarantee Kass is in the game in spite of me saying I was going to take it. Not because I know or anything but because it's an attractive role for scum if used properly. Tryn is the same - why could he not claim it and let town direct him if town is going to herp derp and tell him to hit a bunch of townies?
I don't buy it sand - I don't buy that he was ever concerned about potentially game-breaking abilities while in the same breath calling for people to augment his senseless N1 "confirmation whirl". I don't buy that he's reading the thread and coming to conclusions about peoples' alignments, and I don't buy that he just randomly picked a character like Tryn before seeing if someone was going to pick it.
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Like if he thought Bum was scum, why was his first thought one of night-actions rather than making a case to get him lynched Sand? If you can answer me that, then I'll move my vote.
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On December 04 2013 06:39 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:19 Mig wrote:
Rean looks pretty terrible. Comes in 4 minutes after marv calls him out to respond, so seems to be actively reading the thread but posts nothing at all besides yelling at Roffles for being mean.
Rean what do you think about the current lynch candidates? Who do you plan on voting for?
Also where is supersoft. I would have expected him to be around by now and commenting on current events. His only case this game has been against LSB who he called scum but then he proceeded to say he isn't sure if he should be lynched today in the same post? He also said he was going to go do some meta research on him, did you ever do any of that super? I'm not actively reading the thread, just happened to be around at the time. And it really annoyed me that apparently it's okay to tell others to kill themselves over a fucking game. ATM I don't have any opinions on anyone, didn't really read that much of the thread. Prolly gonna find someone that looks town enough and go full sheep.
+1 for not telling others to kill themselves over a game, it was a few steps to far. Should be addressed out of thread anyways, and possibly maybe filing a complaint to the moderators.
However, lurking is probably the most anti-townie thing you can do and hopefully you can remedy that.
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On December 04 2013 06:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like if he thought Bum was scum, why was his first thought one of night-actions rather than making a case to get him lynched Sand? If you can answer me that, then I'll move my vote.
I voted and began my case against Bum before threatening to kill him with my night-actions should he not be lynched...
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On December 04 2013 06:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't buy it sand - I don't buy that he was ever concerned about potentially game-breaking abilities while in the same breath calling for people to augment his senseless N1 "confirmation whirl". I don't buy that he's reading the thread and coming to conclusions about peoples' alignments, and I don't buy that he just randomly picked a character like Tryn before seeing if someone was going to pick it.
I have a problem with that random too. I expected him to say he picked Tryndamere to confirm it was there because if the other roles are possible town roles it is 1) more likely that they have been picked and 2) more likely that they were picked by town and for Tryndamere it basically confirms it as scum role if he does not get it. Instead we are supposed to believe he randomed it...
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On December 04 2013 06:45 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:39 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 06:19 Mig wrote:
Rean looks pretty terrible. Comes in 4 minutes after marv calls him out to respond, so seems to be actively reading the thread but posts nothing at all besides yelling at Roffles for being mean.
Rean what do you think about the current lynch candidates? Who do you plan on voting for?
Also where is supersoft. I would have expected him to be around by now and commenting on current events. His only case this game has been against LSB who he called scum but then he proceeded to say he isn't sure if he should be lynched today in the same post? He also said he was going to go do some meta research on him, did you ever do any of that super? I'm not actively reading the thread, just happened to be around at the time. And it really annoyed me that apparently it's okay to tell others to kill themselves over a fucking game. ATM I don't have any opinions on anyone, didn't really read that much of the thread. Prolly gonna find someone that looks town enough and go full sheep. +1 for not telling others to kill themselves over a game, it was a few steps to far. Should be addressed out of thread anyways, and possibly maybe filing a complaint to the moderators. However, lurking is probably the most anti-townie thing you can do and hopefully you can remedy that.
I pmd the host account hoping they're gonna do something about it but nothing so far >.>
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On December 04 2013 06:49 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:45 LSB wrote:On December 04 2013 06:39 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 06:19 Mig wrote:
Rean looks pretty terrible. Comes in 4 minutes after marv calls him out to respond, so seems to be actively reading the thread but posts nothing at all besides yelling at Roffles for being mean.
Rean what do you think about the current lynch candidates? Who do you plan on voting for?
Also where is supersoft. I would have expected him to be around by now and commenting on current events. His only case this game has been against LSB who he called scum but then he proceeded to say he isn't sure if he should be lynched today in the same post? He also said he was going to go do some meta research on him, did you ever do any of that super? I'm not actively reading the thread, just happened to be around at the time. And it really annoyed me that apparently it's okay to tell others to kill themselves over a fucking game. ATM I don't have any opinions on anyone, didn't really read that much of the thread. Prolly gonna find someone that looks town enough and go full sheep. +1 for not telling others to kill themselves over a game, it was a few steps to far. Should be addressed out of thread anyways, and possibly maybe filing a complaint to the moderators. However, lurking is probably the most anti-townie thing you can do and hopefully you can remedy that. I pmd the host account hoping they're gonna do something about it but nothing so far >.>
You are pretty active and up to date about this subject for not reading the thread.
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On December 04 2013 06:49 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:45 LSB wrote:On December 04 2013 06:39 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 06:19 Mig wrote:
Rean looks pretty terrible. Comes in 4 minutes after marv calls him out to respond, so seems to be actively reading the thread but posts nothing at all besides yelling at Roffles for being mean.
Rean what do you think about the current lynch candidates? Who do you plan on voting for?
Also where is supersoft. I would have expected him to be around by now and commenting on current events. His only case this game has been against LSB who he called scum but then he proceeded to say he isn't sure if he should be lynched today in the same post? He also said he was going to go do some meta research on him, did you ever do any of that super? I'm not actively reading the thread, just happened to be around at the time. And it really annoyed me that apparently it's okay to tell others to kill themselves over a fucking game. ATM I don't have any opinions on anyone, didn't really read that much of the thread. Prolly gonna find someone that looks town enough and go full sheep. +1 for not telling others to kill themselves over a game, it was a few steps to far. Should be addressed out of thread anyways, and possibly maybe filing a complaint to the moderators. However, lurking is probably the most anti-townie thing you can do and hopefully you can remedy that. I pmd the host account hoping they're gonna do something about it but nothing so far >.>
I'll PM GM About it.
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On December 04 2013 06:48 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like if he thought Bum was scum, why was his first thought one of night-actions rather than making a case to get him lynched Sand? If you can answer me that, then I'll move my vote. I voted and began my case against Bum before threatening to kill him with my night-actions should he not be lynched...
But you never ever like, campaigned to get him lynched or even mentioned trying to get him lynched. Your analysis of him literally ended with "So I'm gonna use my power on him tonight". See?
On December 03 2013 11:55 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 11:44 bumatlarge wrote:On December 03 2013 11:36 LSB wrote:On December 03 2013 10:48 bumatlarge wrote:
BLAH BLAH BLAH POLICY LYNCH ME ^Paraphrased. Honestly Bumatlarge is following the basic plan I used as SK from PYP3, first get an idea of where everyone is who can kill you and try to grab an ability that will make it so you cant get killed by mafia, while all the time trying to convince everyone that I have a different ability. "This would have been better for town" was the exact same reasoning I used to try to convince town I wasn't SK in PYP3. I'm sticking to my policy lynch plan. I'm thinking Bumatlarge is SK and grabbed a defensive role as a way to make sure he stays alive. I'm going to pin him as "not town". Deviation from your own plan is pretty scummy since a plan requires as much players to follow it as possible. I'm the SK that might be in the game now? jcarlsoniv must be something juicy. Never said anything about SK, just said not town. Good enough for me to try to drop da hammer. My night action is gonna be to move 3 up. Though unless some friendly helper would like to give me more KP, it's gonna be more like a feather than a hammer
You mentioned lynching him one other time, and it wasn't because you thought he was scum or SK, you mentioned it as a policy vote. Literally.
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No VE. If you are scum you have the concern of not screwing your team over. If you don't work with your team you are pretty much guaranteed to lose. As town and as last pick you are pretty much have no expectations of getting a role so I don't read much into him taking w/e. If he wants to argue that there is great logic behind his pick and it was his plan all along I won't bust his balls for it. I do believe LSB is bullshitting a little here and there, but not in a scum oriented way. He just seems stubborn and won't give in even when he realises he's made a bad call.
That's my perception, but I'm not 100% convinced he is town either. I'm just pretty damn sure bum is scum and would like to deal with him first. Considering everything I said along with my previous acusation, I believe it is pretty reasonable to lynch bum and then decide on LSB.
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I'm spending time with the gf tonight, so my posting activity will be sparse, if existent. Will do my best to be around near night post/lynching time, and I will be reading periodically.
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On December 04 2013 06:49 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:45 LSB wrote:On December 04 2013 06:39 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 06:19 Mig wrote:
Rean looks pretty terrible. Comes in 4 minutes after marv calls him out to respond, so seems to be actively reading the thread but posts nothing at all besides yelling at Roffles for being mean.
Rean what do you think about the current lynch candidates? Who do you plan on voting for?
Also where is supersoft. I would have expected him to be around by now and commenting on current events. His only case this game has been against LSB who he called scum but then he proceeded to say he isn't sure if he should be lynched today in the same post? He also said he was going to go do some meta research on him, did you ever do any of that super? I'm not actively reading the thread, just happened to be around at the time. And it really annoyed me that apparently it's okay to tell others to kill themselves over a fucking game. ATM I don't have any opinions on anyone, didn't really read that much of the thread. Prolly gonna find someone that looks town enough and go full sheep. +1 for not telling others to kill themselves over a game, it was a few steps to far. Should be addressed out of thread anyways, and possibly maybe filing a complaint to the moderators. However, lurking is probably the most anti-townie thing you can do and hopefully you can remedy that. I pmd the host account hoping they're gonna do something about it but nothing so far >.>
Really rean, I think you are reading too much into that Roffles comment. I guess it's ambiguous, but when I read it I thought he meant kill yourself in game, i.e. use abilities to kill yourself and didn't find it that outrageous.
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On December 04 2013 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:48 LSB wrote:On December 04 2013 06:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like if he thought Bum was scum, why was his first thought one of night-actions rather than making a case to get him lynched Sand? If you can answer me that, then I'll move my vote. I voted and began my case against Bum before threatening to kill him with my night-actions should he not be lynched... But you never ever like, campaigned to get him lynched or even mentioned trying to get him lynched. Your analysis of him literally ended with "So I'm gonna use my power on him tonight". See? Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 11:55 LSB wrote:On December 03 2013 11:44 bumatlarge wrote:On December 03 2013 11:36 LSB wrote:On December 03 2013 10:48 bumatlarge wrote:
BLAH BLAH BLAH POLICY LYNCH ME ^Paraphrased. Honestly Bumatlarge is following the basic plan I used as SK from PYP3, first get an idea of where everyone is who can kill you and try to grab an ability that will make it so you cant get killed by mafia, while all the time trying to convince everyone that I have a different ability. "This would have been better for town" was the exact same reasoning I used to try to convince town I wasn't SK in PYP3. I'm sticking to my policy lynch plan. I'm thinking Bumatlarge is SK and grabbed a defensive role as a way to make sure he stays alive. I'm going to pin him as "not town". Deviation from your own plan is pretty scummy since a plan requires as much players to follow it as possible. I'm the SK that might be in the game now? jcarlsoniv must be something juicy. Never said anything about SK, just said not town. Good enough for me to try to drop da hammer. My night action is gonna be to move 3 up. Though unless some friendly helper would like to give me more KP, it's gonna be more like a feather than a hammer You mentioned lynching him one other time, and it wasn't because you thought he was scum or SK, you mentioned it as a policy vote. Literally.
I'm just going to quote the two posts I made before that post
On December 03 2013 03:56 LSB wrote:
Lastly I'm going to policy vote Bum for not following through with what he was pushing. Just for a point of reference in PYP2 (i think), I was SK and I pushed heavily a plan, and I deviated from it as a way to attempt to make sure I was invincible.
##Vote: Bumatlarge
On December 03 2013 11:36 LSB wrote:^Paraphrased. Honestly Bumatlarge is following the basic plan I used as SK from PYP3, first get an idea of where everyone is who can kill you and try to grab an ability that will make it so you cant get killed by mafia, while all the time trying to convince everyone that I have a different ability. "This would have been better for town" was the exact same reasoning I used to try to convince town I wasn't SK in PYP3. I'm sticking to my policy lynch plan. I'm thinking Bumatlarge is SK and grabbed a defensive role as a way to make sure he stays alive. I'm going to pin him as "not town". Deviation from your own plan is pretty scummy since a plan requires as much players to follow it as possible.
I bolded the important part.
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On December 04 2013 06:56 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:49 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 06:45 LSB wrote:On December 04 2013 06:39 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 06:19 Mig wrote:
Rean looks pretty terrible. Comes in 4 minutes after marv calls him out to respond, so seems to be actively reading the thread but posts nothing at all besides yelling at Roffles for being mean.
Rean what do you think about the current lynch candidates? Who do you plan on voting for?
Also where is supersoft. I would have expected him to be around by now and commenting on current events. His only case this game has been against LSB who he called scum but then he proceeded to say he isn't sure if he should be lynched today in the same post? He also said he was going to go do some meta research on him, did you ever do any of that super? I'm not actively reading the thread, just happened to be around at the time. And it really annoyed me that apparently it's okay to tell others to kill themselves over a fucking game. ATM I don't have any opinions on anyone, didn't really read that much of the thread. Prolly gonna find someone that looks town enough and go full sheep. +1 for not telling others to kill themselves over a game, it was a few steps to far. Should be addressed out of thread anyways, and possibly maybe filing a complaint to the moderators. However, lurking is probably the most anti-townie thing you can do and hopefully you can remedy that. I pmd the host account hoping they're gonna do something about it but nothing so far >.> Really rean, I think you are reading too much into that Roffles comment. I guess it's ambiguous, but when I read it I thought he meant kill yourself in game, i.e. use abilities to kill yourself and didn't find it that outrageous.
Let's just leave this issue for now please. This is now up for Roffles/The Host/The Mods to resolve and not us.
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On December 04 2013 06:56 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 06:49 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 06:45 LSB wrote:On December 04 2013 06:39 Rean wrote:On December 04 2013 06:19 Mig wrote:
Rean looks pretty terrible. Comes in 4 minutes after marv calls him out to respond, so seems to be actively reading the thread but posts nothing at all besides yelling at Roffles for being mean.
Rean what do you think about the current lynch candidates? Who do you plan on voting for?
Also where is supersoft. I would have expected him to be around by now and commenting on current events. His only case this game has been against LSB who he called scum but then he proceeded to say he isn't sure if he should be lynched today in the same post? He also said he was going to go do some meta research on him, did you ever do any of that super? I'm not actively reading the thread, just happened to be around at the time. And it really annoyed me that apparently it's okay to tell others to kill themselves over a fucking game. ATM I don't have any opinions on anyone, didn't really read that much of the thread. Prolly gonna find someone that looks town enough and go full sheep. +1 for not telling others to kill themselves over a game, it was a few steps to far. Should be addressed out of thread anyways, and possibly maybe filing a complaint to the moderators. However, lurking is probably the most anti-townie thing you can do and hopefully you can remedy that. I pmd the host account hoping they're gonna do something about it but nothing so far >.> Really rean, I think you are reading too much into that Roffles comment. I guess it's ambiguous, but when I read it I thought he meant kill yourself in game, i.e. use abilities to kill yourself and didn't find it that outrageous.
Honestly I'm with Rean on this one. Even if it's meant that way it's pretty bad. I try, often unsuccessfully, to make my "death threats" reasonably clean in game. Considering the back to basics game I can understand his sensitivity to the issue.
I'm going to look into BC when I get home.
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Yeah.....yeah.
##Unvote
##Vote: Bumatlarge
I don't have the strength or will. I think LSB scum but I can't keep saying the same things over and over again and hoping for different results.
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ream are you worried he's actually going to kill himself now?
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bum so isn't scum. im literally the only person defending him..
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On December 04 2013 07:25 kushm4sta wrote:
ream are you worried he's actually going to kill himself now?
I doubt it. Still not anywhere close to okay.
But it's being handled atm so no more need to discuss it.
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