On November 25 2013 23:01 Aquanim wrote: @Sciberbia: If one of the top group is scum who's your guess? Even if you can only narrow it down to two,
Tough question. Can I have 3?
Mocsta - if it weren't for you and thrawn telling me he is def town I probably would have put him in his own group in the middle Onegu - towniness confined to one part of his filter; possible he just put on a great act for 12-24 hours Bereft - don't know how to explain this.. just feel like there aren't any super strong town-tells
OK now I really really have to do some work. closing thread
Im here, good to know I dont comprehend half of what is being said anymore. I habe a hard time believeing 2 or more scum are in the replacements and town has just been exploading on each other. Filter diveing cora tonight and if have time and my internet is still good then aquanim. Somehow I think aqua is still looking at old onegu, and thinking if onegu is town he cant catch scum so there is no need to look close at my cases because they go against his reads and its onegu so no need to read because if he is town he cant catch scum or he is scum and his case is BS, thats the feeling I get from aqua anyway.
I feel fairly confident 2 scum are in the replacement group.
likely: {jampi, HF} possible or town with reservations: {rean, mocsta, onegu}
I know aqua, thrawn, and cora are all vouching for mocsta being town, but I'll be standing by this read for now. I'm pretty disappointed with myself for not standing up for my JJD read and I don't want to make the same mistake of getting influenced by my strong town reads again.
On November 24 2013 17:28 sciberbia wrote: Lurking through the rayn lynch is by far the single scummiest thing anybody has done this entire game. I can't even imagine myself, as town, reading the 100 posts between pages 50 and 55 (the hour leading up to the lynch), and not posting my thoughts. That's crunch time. That's when the game is won or lost. It's when all the drama happens. The lynch was in question and everybody else online was vehemently discussing it, but JJD was just sitting there passing the time.
On the other hand, I can easily see scum doing it. Rayn looked likely to be lynched so scum probably didn't feel much pressure. There's no reason for scum to be posting with a townie lynch coming down the pipeline.
Furthermore here JJD expresses his opinion that Onegu is town and HF is scum, but says he will reread. + Show Spoiler +
On November 22 2013 22:23 JarJarDrinks wrote: Gonna reread Onegu but I haven't thought he was scum @ all this game so I doubt that's gonna change. Not crazy about Holyflare so gonna look close @ him.
He never posts the results of this reread. He hasn't been defending Onegu today even though he's looked like the most likely lynch candidate. He hasn't been pushing an HF lynch either. As thrawn says he's too content doing nothing.
Combined with what aquanim and thrawn have posted, this feels really right to me. Better than every other lynch.
##Vote: JarJarDrinks
no, sciberia, noo
having just played with JJD i don't see it. his posting is pretty consistent with his last game (where he was town) -- sporadic posts which are occasional one to two liners. having read through his filter, i do not think they are without substance.
i checked through his filter from our last game, and here are his post counts for 2 hours pre-lynch: day 1: 1 (context: his vote is for scum, who ultimately was lynched) + Show Spoiler +
On November 02 2013 08:33 JarJarDrinks wrote: ##unvote ##vote: fuba
I can't believe people are voting for one of the most active people in the game when the race is between him and someone w/ 3 posts.
day 2: 0 (context: town was winning by a landslide and the mafia lynch was inevitable)
if you guys are confident about this read i'll really have to reconsider, but right now i'm not willing to vote JJD.
also, i know you guys have expressed wariness to lynch HF after his doctor claim. but look at how he has ignored the important questions directed at him since his claim, and only diverted attention (such as posting his flavor, etc). think about it this way: would a real town doctor have such indifference to getting mislynched? his lack of true strategy when claiming, his bullshit excuse, his indifference...having played with him before, i cannot reconcile to his current behavior and cannot see a scenario where his claim is true.
This bit is a little bit scummy where he says if you guys really thinks so, but overall he hard defends someone who flipped town and tried to stop the lynch. But the scummy part could be him being new and willing to listen to people he considers vets and townie.
Oh and I and feeling better about bereft after yesterday, he is still in my lookout pile but not my lynch pile as of the moment. Also I have very few town reads at the moment, 2 to be exact. Everyone else is null or scummy. No idea how you all want to form a town circle.
About bereft posts like this
On November 24 2013 15:12 Bereft wrote: I'm not sure how I feel about an onegu lynch. I read your case, Cora, along with his filter.
the problem is I find onegu hard to read (both literally and figuratively, the former of which has led to his scum read on me unfortunately).
I'm actually very willing to consider that he might be town right now, because his tone sounds very genuine. also, the post where he gave me an out / an opportunity to play the newbie card stands out. I don't see why he would do this as scum:
Serious question how new are you? This drasticly influeances my read on you. Im going to make my case on you anyway because its halfway done and alot of is still relevant for you to answer
he quoted me on this in his filter (I'd forgotten I'd said this):
On November 22 2013 02:19 Bereft wrote: also cmon Onegu m'boy. I gave you a town read when no one else thought so. live up to the high hopes I have for you and make the right vote!
this will be I-RO-NIC if mocsta's scum.
Give me a town feel, he is wrong that is something a scum onegu would do is give him a out so I can change my mind on him anytime I want, but him saying it is misguided town. If he were scum I think he comes after me for that post not give me a town read for it.
On November 21 2013 05:33 cDgCorazon wrote: Onegu, I know you are better at this game then your case on me. You fail to look at anything I have said about those posts and the information/logic you are using to vote for me is nothing original. I have not seen anything original in that case which leaves me worried about whether you are scum or not.
The whole game you've done nothing productive to the town. That case was so bad it's anti-productive. Try harder.
Cora earlier you had responded to the mocsta case that I posted, yet then you thought my post was a new case with old arguements, how did you not see it was the exact same case you had defended yourself from earlier?
On November 25 2013 19:52 Aquanim wrote: @Alakaslam
Suppose I label the corners of a triangle in order of their acuteness. If I was to look upon you with the eyes of your vaunted chupazi, which corner would I see?
The third triangle, which is totally unique?
Good Morning everyone!! or rather is it night...
Chezinu, doest thou desire I post WriteCraft here? You appear not to seek it.
It is long, though, that is why I desired thou seek it for thine own self...
On November 21 2013 05:33 cDgCorazon wrote: Onegu, I know you are better at this game then your case on me. You fail to look at anything I have said about those posts and the information/logic you are using to vote for me is nothing original. I have not seen anything original in that case which leaves me worried about whether you are scum or not.
The whole game you've done nothing productive to the town. That case was so bad it's anti-productive. Try harder.
Cora earlier you had responded to the mocsta case that I posted, yet then you thought my post was a new case with old arguements, how did you not see it was the exact same case you had defended yourself from earlier?
On November 25 2013 20:09 Chezinu wrote: Sometimes being too good with your reads can get you killed. That happened to me one game. Town was all like, your reads are too accurate all day. You mafia die!!!! Yeah.. that really happened. true story.
The police hate the fact that I would not place my hand against my own brother. It shows that I'm unique and am an individual - not a robot. The soundness of illogical, these robots do not understand. They mock the idea the the Chezinu Rule for they can not compute. The Chezinu Rule has never failed. It's accuracy in experimental trials has been 100% so far. Yet, it still requires faith to follow despite its proven past. Some think logic is more important, much like the robots. But I say, faith>logic.
So Unizehc is statign he is scum with Sciberbia.
& Sciberbia is telling him what to do in the scum QT.
Awesome.
You see not with the eyes of CHUPAZI.
Let me explain in code. The time is hardly right.
Chupaziz are attracted to death. They see the essence of life. They fly in packs, usually of about 50. Therefore they see not clearly what is without, but usually what is within is clear. The speech of Chezinu, seen with the eyes of CHUPAZI, can mean a number of things. You see the scum claim within. A CHUPAZI may see TP, Blu, VT, I don't know as I can see only when one does or does not see with the eyes of CHUPAZI. I see not well at all myself.
Chezinu is correct about reaction. The old game is not wholly necessary for my contribution, Chezinu has been a light and a blessing to both my games.
EPT
