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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 02:46 GMT
#1801
On November 25 2013 11:44 Onegu wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 25 2013 11:37 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 07:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 25 2013 07:16 cDgCorazon wrote:
While I think it is a great case Onegu (and your recent activity has earned my unvote), I'm worried that killing Mocsta will put the thread to a screeching halt like it has been for most of D2. Look how inactive the thread has been with Mocsta's limited time to play this weekend.

In my opinion, Mocsta is one of those players who will either:

a)get killed in the first 2-3 nights
or
b)be lynched due to his behavior

A town Mocsta is a really good asset for town. Scum will be looking to nightkill him ASAP and if they don't do that, then there is a good chance he is one of them.

I'm not disagreeing with you because of my read on your or your points in the case- I just disagree with the principle of lynching Mocsta right now.

Is there anyone outside of Mocsta/Bereft you would be ok with lynching?

Mocsta already thinks I'm scum. I'm totes ready to OMGUS but I want to try and see why first.

Faugh. I went from harrowing to potentially harrowing. Let's check this out...

Onegu, enlighten me.

Did I think Rean was scum at this time? I wrote a lot of spiel on JJD last night and even voted him. So I find this comment out of place as an intro.

Thoughts?


On November 24 2013 13:04 Mocsta wrote:
scibs.

I'm taking a dump but just wanted to let you know we are both cb'd. at least I admitted I had no time to filter dive you and raised points from recollection. whereas you just ignore what I write outright.

I decided to prioritise vorazon for good reason. its in my posy.. and guess what.
since then coraxon stepped it up and started producing the goods.

corazon like others, I would like yo see onehu case on me before laying down a vote. a lot of what you write seems damning though with the contradictions etc.

I'm feeling a jjd vote. his timeluy felurk only when voted is not resonating well with me.
I was expecting him to give impetus today.

I think aqua is town, nothing to do with his read on me. I was thinking about this before.., hes still posting and trying to solve the game.

I'm liking a lunch between jjd/onegu jampi/rean today.

jampi/rean might be modkilled so I'm going to join and vote


##unvote
##votte: jarjardrinks


aside from the tunnel on cotrazon I can't remember what he has done,
I'm not even sure who his scum reads are.


/arse wiped

I gotta go, be back in say 8hrs



You mean here where you vote JJD, but also say rean is a good lynch?

Yeah I would say slam is right.

How can you not keep your reads straight?
I didnt vote him; you get too fixated on the phrase, and not enough on the intent.

I can say all 11 people are scummy; fact is, I have one vote. Thats the action that *does* matter.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 02:49 GMT
#1802
On November 25 2013 08:35 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 08:28 Holyflare wrote:
On November 25 2013 08:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Ok, just reading from the vote post, I can see who I like and who I don't particularly care for. But could someone help me here;

Is jar jar drinks scummier than Mocsta or vice versa? Why? Should these wagons exist? Why or why not? I haven't got the full time period until lynch to be here and I kind of owe the first /in


Mocsta is scum, I don't know why cora is defending him so hard. Activity will pick up, it's the weekend, people are busy/have lives but he isn't accepting it and is just attacking people that deface him or defending mocsta for no good reason. He's not saying WHY mocsta is very towny or systematically going through people's cases to acknowledge their points and say "oh here's a good point on why he is town", he's waiting for the person in question to return so he isn't held responsible if he makes a mistake defending his team mate.

I'm pretty certain cora and mocsta are scum together. I will make cases soon™.

Ah, jeez man. Maybe Cora is "defending him so hard" because he doesn't agree? It seems Aqua holds the same opinion! You look like CONF BIAS embodied to me sometimes. But that could be because I'm fighting you tooth and claw elsewhere until recently discovering that was a strawman so I need to make sure there is no other such flaw here that I see, but thanks for your input...

Many people aren't here it seems, that is a very useful tidbit. Probably not what you meant to convince me of but I rather not be convinced against my will -_- I guess rean was just gone longer?

I like this post.. Specifically the reference to Holyflare.
Its out of game context though.

##Unvote

##Vote: Chezinu Guy has disappeared now that a wagon is on JarJarDrinks

Chez can be useful in his own way and has decided to jsut troll.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 25 2013 02:50 GMT
#1803
On November 24 2013 23:19 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 01:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:
K, so I think Rean looks pretty bad too. Like really bad. Almost every one of his posts seem scummy to me.

On November 20 2013 12:50 Rean wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
I took a shower. Sorry for not wanting to smell bad.

Moc, I'm quite concerned that you have already used up >25% of your "self-allotted posts". If you're going to start spamming, it's going to be a problem.

Now to my goals/early game statements:

1. I'm not gonna make any meta crap posts. TBH I don't remember anyone's meta and it's ridiculously stupid logic. I'm not going to stand for it and I don't think you guys should either.

2. I'm voting for the scummiest person. My last game was Titanic and it came down to 3-4 days of "X is scum, Y/Z/Q is scum as well". That led the town way off of the path and allowed my scum team the easiest scum win in a very long time. I don't care if they're not on the two lynch trains that are going to form. It's not instant majority so as long as I feel like I'm voting for the scummiest person in my opinion, I'm going to be happy with my vote.

3. I'm going to do my best to not be just an onlooker. I'm gonna try and facilitate discussion and ask a lot of questions instead of just answering questions and throw my ideas out there and just create more chaos.

On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game.



Couldn't agree more. Also, don't shit up the thread with useless spam like the LXIII game please. I tried keeping up but the amount of shit posts just trolling/making useless jokes/comments is unbearable and makes it impossible to tell low-laying scum from trolling townies. If anyone goes around posting stupid oneliners without saying anything meaningful they have my vote >.>
Says nothing about the game. Makes an empty threat. Posts completely obvious stuff.


On November 20 2013 12:55 Rean wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:52 Bereft wrote:
Rean, what do you think of Mocsta thus far?


Talks a lot, seems awfully certain of everything he says.
That's not what he thinks of Mocsta. That's telling us how Mocsta has been acting. It's a recap and nothing more. Did he really think that Bereft was asking how Mocsta was acting and NOT whether he though he scummy or not?

On November 20 2013 13:14 Rean wrote:
On November 20 2013 13:04 Aquanim wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:55 Rean wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:52 Bereft wrote:
Rean, what do you think of Mocsta thus far?


Talks a lot, seems awfully certain of everything he says.

@Rean
Given this, which way are you leaning on Mocsta in terms of alignment?


I'd say town, scum is typically more laidback. But could just be a good scumbag.
So Aqua follows up and he give a very non-committal answer of "probably town but could be scum".

On November 20 2013 13:36 Rean wrote:
Aquanim, you're constantly asking but never saying much about what you think. Gimme one town and one scum and reasons why please.
@ least aqua is asking stuff. Rean never asked a question or gave any read, aside from the non read I posted above after he was asked TWICE. All his posts were stating the obvious/answering questions unrelated to reads.

On November 20 2013 15:50 Rean wrote:
Smartass comment that I couldn't resist: + Show Spoiler +
On November 20 2013 15:28 Mocsta wrote:post 10

On November 20 2013 15:29 Mocsta wrote:post 12

consider getting one of these, you could use it :3
[image loading]


More seriously: Mocsta, good post by post analysis but I don't agree with it all. Your points on both Scib and Corazon make sense but I think you're falling into the "he must be scum so I'll try to interpret everything he says as scummy" trap a little with Cora.

In particular: + Show Spoiler +
On November 20 2013 13:24 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 13:20 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon
I'd like you to elaborate more on why you think sciberbia is scum. I don't entirely understand your argument at present.

He's trying to get us to tunnel each other early so he can just sit around and piggyback on town lynches and point the finger at others.

This is demonstrated when he essentially copies my post asking thrawn if he was a mason (deliberately, his post was at least 2-3 minutes after mine) and then decides that he can take my words and twist them when I pressure him about it.

This is what troubles me about sciberia right now.

seems like a legitimate point to me rather than a scum-slip. But it could be a way of distancing himself from Scib if he flips red.

I also want to see Aquanim under a bit of pressure to see how he reacts but let's not do everything at once.

And the lack of 5 people is rather disappointing still.
Now here he seems to defend cora. He said earlier that he liked coras case on sci. He tells Moc that he's falling into the "he must be scum so I'll try to interpret everything he says as scummy" trap. And then again w/ the same non-committal read he gave Mocsta with "seems like a legitimate point to me rather than a scum-slip. But it could be a way of distancing himself from Scib if he flips red".

On November 20 2013 16:08 Rean wrote:
On November 20 2013 15:56 Mocsta wrote:
(A) Discredit me slightly - which is OK, the problem is the non-firm opinion on Corazon or Sciberbia
(B) Subtlely sway convo to Aquanim - again this could be OK in isolation, but I dont like with (A)
(C) Comment about lack of followup from 5 people.


B and C are there as a reminder. Aquanim feels to me like he's getting by too comfortably, but for now its a small lean towards scum as opposed to Corazon/Scib feeling much more scummy to me.

And I'm not discrediting you, I want to warn you not to tunnelvision. Tunnelvision impairs you from thinking logically and it's lost me games in the past because I was convinced I was right and tried to make everything seem as if I was. Maybe that's why I seem non-commital, I don't want to repeat the same mistake. You're right that C/S are acting dodgy but don't close your mind.

On November 20 2013 15:57 Aquanim wrote:
@Mocsta
If Corazon and sciberbia are both scum, what was their motive for going after one another as they have so early? It's focused a lot of attention on the two of them, and I can't imagine that being what scum wants.

@Rean
Why do you want to see me in particular pressured?


To me you look like you're in the position that if I were scum I'd love: sit back, ask some questions, give some non-commital opinions from time to time and earn easy town credit while not under any real pressure.

So one of your questions back at you: if you had a vig shot that only hit scum, who would you aim it at right now and why?
So apparently, he now has a scumread from cora? Wasn't he JUST defending him?

##Vote: Rean
thrawn

note jjd last point on rean. then note his intro line on nominating rean as scum.

it encapsulates.. more scummy TO ME

this was a pretty detailed post from jjd and was one of the reasons I had a town read on him.. I'm considering jjd sensed rean was going down and bussed him. I haven't checked vote counts to sense timing awareness though.

I'm on tablet tonight so its really hard to quote, but before this jjd goes from scum read on me to unjustified scum read on corazon to this read on rean. I do find it odd that jjd in his first post analysis of team states he is doing nothing, when he is in fact calling out his former scum read corazon.

food for thought



Here you also show JJD was bussing rean, then you are gone and slam joins looks at most recent stuff and sees you ok to vote rean.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 02:52 GMT
#1804
I treated it differently because of the timestamps. I checked my filter specifically for what I said around that time.

Anyways; he reads as if he is having fun/enjoying himself & i like the HF reference. So hes off my books for the time being.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 25 2013 02:53 GMT
#1805
I just don't think we've seen enough time from the Chezinu/Jampidampi slot to be confident at all about lynching into it.

Alakaslam/Rean... maybe. but I think giving alak some more time is necessary.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
November 25 2013 02:54 GMT
#1806
On November 25 2013 11:50 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 23:19 Mocsta wrote:
On November 21 2013 01:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:
K, so I think Rean looks pretty bad too. Like really bad. Almost every one of his posts seem scummy to me.

On November 20 2013 12:50 Rean wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
I took a shower. Sorry for not wanting to smell bad.

Moc, I'm quite concerned that you have already used up >25% of your "self-allotted posts". If you're going to start spamming, it's going to be a problem.

Now to my goals/early game statements:

1. I'm not gonna make any meta crap posts. TBH I don't remember anyone's meta and it's ridiculously stupid logic. I'm not going to stand for it and I don't think you guys should either.

2. I'm voting for the scummiest person. My last game was Titanic and it came down to 3-4 days of "X is scum, Y/Z/Q is scum as well". That led the town way off of the path and allowed my scum team the easiest scum win in a very long time. I don't care if they're not on the two lynch trains that are going to form. It's not instant majority so as long as I feel like I'm voting for the scummiest person in my opinion, I'm going to be happy with my vote.

3. I'm going to do my best to not be just an onlooker. I'm gonna try and facilitate discussion and ask a lot of questions instead of just answering questions and throw my ideas out there and just create more chaos.

On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game.



Couldn't agree more. Also, don't shit up the thread with useless spam like the LXIII game please. I tried keeping up but the amount of shit posts just trolling/making useless jokes/comments is unbearable and makes it impossible to tell low-laying scum from trolling townies. If anyone goes around posting stupid oneliners without saying anything meaningful they have my vote >.>
Says nothing about the game. Makes an empty threat. Posts completely obvious stuff.


On November 20 2013 12:55 Rean wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:52 Bereft wrote:
Rean, what do you think of Mocsta thus far?


Talks a lot, seems awfully certain of everything he says.
That's not what he thinks of Mocsta. That's telling us how Mocsta has been acting. It's a recap and nothing more. Did he really think that Bereft was asking how Mocsta was acting and NOT whether he though he scummy or not?

On November 20 2013 13:14 Rean wrote:
On November 20 2013 13:04 Aquanim wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:55 Rean wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:52 Bereft wrote:
Rean, what do you think of Mocsta thus far?


Talks a lot, seems awfully certain of everything he says.

@Rean
Given this, which way are you leaning on Mocsta in terms of alignment?


I'd say town, scum is typically more laidback. But could just be a good scumbag.
So Aqua follows up and he give a very non-committal answer of "probably town but could be scum".

On November 20 2013 13:36 Rean wrote:
Aquanim, you're constantly asking but never saying much about what you think. Gimme one town and one scum and reasons why please.
@ least aqua is asking stuff. Rean never asked a question or gave any read, aside from the non read I posted above after he was asked TWICE. All his posts were stating the obvious/answering questions unrelated to reads.

On November 20 2013 15:50 Rean wrote:
Smartass comment that I couldn't resist: + Show Spoiler +
On November 20 2013 15:28 Mocsta wrote:post 10

On November 20 2013 15:29 Mocsta wrote:post 12

consider getting one of these, you could use it :3
[image loading]


More seriously: Mocsta, good post by post analysis but I don't agree with it all. Your points on both Scib and Corazon make sense but I think you're falling into the "he must be scum so I'll try to interpret everything he says as scummy" trap a little with Cora.

In particular: + Show Spoiler +
On November 20 2013 13:24 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 13:20 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon
I'd like you to elaborate more on why you think sciberbia is scum. I don't entirely understand your argument at present.

He's trying to get us to tunnel each other early so he can just sit around and piggyback on town lynches and point the finger at others.

This is demonstrated when he essentially copies my post asking thrawn if he was a mason (deliberately, his post was at least 2-3 minutes after mine) and then decides that he can take my words and twist them when I pressure him about it.

This is what troubles me about sciberia right now.

seems like a legitimate point to me rather than a scum-slip. But it could be a way of distancing himself from Scib if he flips red.

I also want to see Aquanim under a bit of pressure to see how he reacts but let's not do everything at once.

And the lack of 5 people is rather disappointing still.
Now here he seems to defend cora. He said earlier that he liked coras case on sci. He tells Moc that he's falling into the "he must be scum so I'll try to interpret everything he says as scummy" trap. And then again w/ the same non-committal read he gave Mocsta with "seems like a legitimate point to me rather than a scum-slip. But it could be a way of distancing himself from Scib if he flips red".

On November 20 2013 16:08 Rean wrote:
On November 20 2013 15:56 Mocsta wrote:
(A) Discredit me slightly - which is OK, the problem is the non-firm opinion on Corazon or Sciberbia
(B) Subtlely sway convo to Aquanim - again this could be OK in isolation, but I dont like with (A)
(C) Comment about lack of followup from 5 people.


B and C are there as a reminder. Aquanim feels to me like he's getting by too comfortably, but for now its a small lean towards scum as opposed to Corazon/Scib feeling much more scummy to me.

And I'm not discrediting you, I want to warn you not to tunnelvision. Tunnelvision impairs you from thinking logically and it's lost me games in the past because I was convinced I was right and tried to make everything seem as if I was. Maybe that's why I seem non-commital, I don't want to repeat the same mistake. You're right that C/S are acting dodgy but don't close your mind.

On November 20 2013 15:57 Aquanim wrote:
@Mocsta
If Corazon and sciberbia are both scum, what was their motive for going after one another as they have so early? It's focused a lot of attention on the two of them, and I can't imagine that being what scum wants.

@Rean
Why do you want to see me in particular pressured?


To me you look like you're in the position that if I were scum I'd love: sit back, ask some questions, give some non-commital opinions from time to time and earn easy town credit while not under any real pressure.

So one of your questions back at you: if you had a vig shot that only hit scum, who would you aim it at right now and why?
So apparently, he now has a scumread from cora? Wasn't he JUST defending him?

##Vote: Rean
thrawn

note jjd last point on rean. then note his intro line on nominating rean as scum.

it encapsulates.. more scummy TO ME

this was a pretty detailed post from jjd and was one of the reasons I had a town read on him.. I'm considering jjd sensed rean was going down and bussed him. I haven't checked vote counts to sense timing awareness though.

I'm on tablet tonight so its really hard to quote, but before this jjd goes from scum read on me to unjustified scum read on corazon to this read on rean. I do find it odd that jjd in his first post analysis of team states he is doing nothing, when he is in fact calling out his former scum read corazon.

food for thought



Here you also show JJD was bussing rean, then you are gone and slam joins looks at most recent stuff and sees you ok to vote rean.

I think Moc is also very likely to be scum if Rean is. Him and thrawn BOTH got off Rean him pretty quickly. And it's wierd that he would post a bus case preflip.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 25 2013 02:54 GMT
#1807
On November 25 2013 11:46 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 11:44 Onegu wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 25 2013 11:37 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 07:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 25 2013 07:16 cDgCorazon wrote:
While I think it is a great case Onegu (and your recent activity has earned my unvote), I'm worried that killing Mocsta will put the thread to a screeching halt like it has been for most of D2. Look how inactive the thread has been with Mocsta's limited time to play this weekend.

In my opinion, Mocsta is one of those players who will either:

a)get killed in the first 2-3 nights
or
b)be lynched due to his behavior

A town Mocsta is a really good asset for town. Scum will be looking to nightkill him ASAP and if they don't do that, then there is a good chance he is one of them.

I'm not disagreeing with you because of my read on your or your points in the case- I just disagree with the principle of lynching Mocsta right now.

Is there anyone outside of Mocsta/Bereft you would be ok with lynching?

Mocsta already thinks I'm scum. I'm totes ready to OMGUS but I want to try and see why first.

Faugh. I went from harrowing to potentially harrowing. Let's check this out...

Onegu, enlighten me.

Did I think Rean was scum at this time? I wrote a lot of spiel on JJD last night and even voted him. So I find this comment out of place as an intro.

Thoughts?


On November 24 2013 13:04 Mocsta wrote:
scibs.

I'm taking a dump but just wanted to let you know we are both cb'd. at least I admitted I had no time to filter dive you and raised points from recollection. whereas you just ignore what I write outright.

I decided to prioritise vorazon for good reason. its in my posy.. and guess what.
since then coraxon stepped it up and started producing the goods.

corazon like others, I would like yo see onehu case on me before laying down a vote. a lot of what you write seems damning though with the contradictions etc.

I'm feeling a jjd vote. his timeluy felurk only when voted is not resonating well with me.
I was expecting him to give impetus today.

I think aqua is town, nothing to do with his read on me. I was thinking about this before.., hes still posting and trying to solve the game.

I'm liking a lunch between jjd/onegu jampi/rean today.

jampi/rean might be modkilled so I'm going to join and vote


##unvote
##votte: jarjardrinks


aside from the tunnel on cotrazon I can't remember what he has done,
I'm not even sure who his scum reads are.


/arse wiped

I gotta go, be back in say 8hrs



You mean here where you vote JJD, but also say rean is a good lynch?

Yeah I would say slam is right.

How can you not keep your reads straight?
I didnt vote him; you get too fixated on the phrase, and not enough on the intent.

I can say all 11 people are scummy; fact is, I have one vote. Thats the action that *does* matter.



Slam said you thought he was scum, slam was right, are only the people you vote people you consider scum?
Try TL Mafia!!!
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
November 25 2013 02:55 GMT
#1808
Basic Vote Count


Bereft (0): thrawn2112
Alakaslam (1): Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, Mocsta
Chezinu (1): Mocsta, thrawn2112, Mocsta
Onegu (0): cDgCorazon, cDgCorazon, Aquanim, thrawn2112, cDgCorazon, Chezinu
JarJarDrinks (6): cDgCorazon, thrawn2112, Mocsta, sciberbia, Aquanim, Mocsta, thrawn2112, Bereft, thrawn2112, Mocsta, Aquanim, cDgCorazon, Alakaslam
sciberbia (0): Mocsta, Chezinu
Holyflare (1): Bereft, Aquanim, Chezinu
Mocsta (2): Bereft, Onegu, Holyflare
Thrawn2112 (0): cDgCorazon

Not Voting (0):



JarJarDrinks is currently set to be lynched.

11 players alive means 6 votes to lynch. If you find an error in the vote count, please let me know.

Day 2 ends in at 03:00 GMT (+00:00)
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 02:56 GMT
#1809
Onegu's followup with me is good. Hes calling out good stuff which is making me feel nervous -- I really think he is town guys.
More than a feeling now.

I like a HF (lone) / chez (jampi) / <xxx> team

By PoE, kinda left with JJD as lowest ranking of twon reads?

kk

##Unvote
##Vote: JJD

Im not confident on this though..
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 25 2013 02:56 GMT
#1810
Mocsta could you do my paranoia a favour and switch back onto JJD?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 25 2013 02:57 GMT
#1811
[b]##unvote
##vote:chezinu

OR ONEGU SOMEONE TALK lol
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
November 25 2013 02:57 GMT
#1812
Anyway good luck town and I'll still root for you. But u'd all deserve to lose for for not lynching heavy lurkers.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 25 2013 02:58 GMT
#1813
On November 25 2013 11:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Anyway good luck town and I'll still root for you. But u'd all deserve to lose for for not lynching heavy lurkers.


guys he's town
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 25 2013 02:58 GMT
#1814
if nobody is here i'll go back
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 25 2013 02:59 GMT
#1815
On November 25 2013 11:54 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 11:46 Mocsta wrote:
On November 25 2013 11:44 Onegu wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 25 2013 11:37 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 07:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 25 2013 07:16 cDgCorazon wrote:
While I think it is a great case Onegu (and your recent activity has earned my unvote), I'm worried that killing Mocsta will put the thread to a screeching halt like it has been for most of D2. Look how inactive the thread has been with Mocsta's limited time to play this weekend.

In my opinion, Mocsta is one of those players who will either:

a)get killed in the first 2-3 nights
or
b)be lynched due to his behavior

A town Mocsta is a really good asset for town. Scum will be looking to nightkill him ASAP and if they don't do that, then there is a good chance he is one of them.

I'm not disagreeing with you because of my read on your or your points in the case- I just disagree with the principle of lynching Mocsta right now.

Is there anyone outside of Mocsta/Bereft you would be ok with lynching?

Mocsta already thinks I'm scum. I'm totes ready to OMGUS but I want to try and see why first.

Faugh. I went from harrowing to potentially harrowing. Let's check this out...

Onegu, enlighten me.

Did I think Rean was scum at this time? I wrote a lot of spiel on JJD last night and even voted him. So I find this comment out of place as an intro.

Thoughts?


On November 24 2013 13:04 Mocsta wrote:
scibs.

I'm taking a dump but just wanted to let you know we are both cb'd. at least I admitted I had no time to filter dive you and raised points from recollection. whereas you just ignore what I write outright.

I decided to prioritise vorazon for good reason. its in my posy.. and guess what.
since then coraxon stepped it up and started producing the goods.

corazon like others, I would like yo see onehu case on me before laying down a vote. a lot of what you write seems damning though with the contradictions etc.

I'm feeling a jjd vote. his timeluy felurk only when voted is not resonating well with me.
I was expecting him to give impetus today.

I think aqua is town, nothing to do with his read on me. I was thinking about this before.., hes still posting and trying to solve the game.

I'm liking a lunch between jjd/onegu jampi/rean today.

jampi/rean might be modkilled so I'm going to join and vote


##unvote
##votte: jarjardrinks


aside from the tunnel on cotrazon I can't remember what he has done,
I'm not even sure who his scum reads are.


/arse wiped

I gotta go, be back in say 8hrs



You mean here where you vote JJD, but also say rean is a good lynch?

Yeah I would say slam is right.

How can you not keep your reads straight?
I didnt vote him; you get too fixated on the phrase, and not enough on the intent.

I can say all 11 people are scummy; fact is, I have one vote. Thats the action that *does* matter.



Slam said you thought he was scum, slam was right, are only the people you vote people you consider scum?
My vote is usually indicative of who my strongest read is.
Of course I use it to pressure as well.
When I call people scummy loosely, it will typically infer I am suspicious. Which indicates some sort of lean depending on how I feel at the time. I rarely have hard thoughts either.

The biggest differentiator between my town play and scum play is my willingness to consider options (or lack of as scum)
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 25 2013 02:59 GMT
#1816
if we get caught by deadline halfway through a swap we'll look really, really stupid
switch back
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 25 2013 02:59 GMT
#1817
##unvote
##vote:chezinu


jampi was scummy and chezin is trolling like moc said. brown chez doesn't troll he is useful even if he's brown
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 25 2013 03:00 GMT
#1818
lol
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
November 25 2013 03:00 GMT
#1819
Why didn't Holys flavor say (medic) in parenthesis like mine and rayns say (vanilla townie)?
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
November 25 2013 03:00 GMT
#1820
Basic Vote Count


Bereft (0): thrawn2112
Alakaslam (1): Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, Mocsta
Chezinu (1): Mocsta, thrawn2112, Mocsta, thrawn2112
Onegu (0): cDgCorazon, cDgCorazon, Aquanim, thrawn2112, cDgCorazon, Chezinu
JarJarDrinks (6): cDgCorazon, thrawn2112, Mocsta, sciberbia, Aquanim, Mocsta, thrawn2112, Bereft, thrawn2112, Mocsta, Aquanim, cDgCorazon, Alakaslam, Mocsta
sciberbia (0): Mocsta, Chezinu
Holyflare (1): Bereft, Aquanim, Chezinu
Mocsta (2): Bereft, Onegu, Holyflare
Thrawn2112 (0): cDgCorazon

Not Voting (0):



JarJarDrinks is currently set to be lynched.

11 players alive means 6 votes to lynch. If you find an error in the vote count, please let me know.

Day 2 ends in at 03:00 GMT (+00:00)
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