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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 22 2013 02:06 GMT
#1001
On November 22 2013 11:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 10:56 Mocsta wrote:
On November 22 2013 10:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 22 2013 10:53 Mocsta wrote:
On November 22 2013 10:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 22 2013 10:49 Mocsta wrote:
On November 22 2013 10:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 22 2013 10:43 Mocsta wrote:
On November 22 2013 10:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
mocsta wtf are you going on about... say something helpful

This is an unusal response.

Talk to me more.


yes it was i'm sorry

I dont need an apology.

I would like to know why you thought it wasnt useful?


I was too lazy to read a huge post about a candidate that I hadn't really thought about until the moment I saw your post, and that's why what I said was a dumb thing to post. Now we need to stop circle jerking and figure out who besides rayn we're going to lynch.

No, you dont get to brush this off.

Why did you vote Onegu afterwards.


mocsta unless you think I'm scum please stfu
I am starting to give it weight

So answer the god-damn question.


I will expand on my previous post.

I was too lazy to read a huge post about a candidate that I hadn't really thought about until the moment I saw your post, and my knee jerk reaction was to call your post useless. That is my brain's way of tricking me into thinking that I didn't actually need to read your post, my brain is a lazy fuck sometimes and I need to be more mindful of its sinister machinations.

Then I realized everything in the above paragraph and decided to read your post. I agreed with it and was desperately looking for a candidate so I voted Onegu. Then I went and read his filter and decided I can't find enough scumminess in it that's worth lynching him over.
Thank you.
I dont have a problem you didnt want to read the post - that is normal.
I dont agree with your reasoning; however,i dont know you very well so it i wont argue it either.

(in my opinion)
Call outs like what you did only occur when you have a strong read on someone and then the "where da fuq did that post come from" identifies an opposite alignment on that person.



If you could not find enough scumminess in onegu filter; do you think he cares about seeing a lynch through?


thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 02:07 GMT
#1002
Rayn, you were really doing a good job of convincing me. Then the pressure started to build back up on you and you resort back to this old shtick

On November 22 2013 11:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's all you wonder?
oh i forgot you are scum.


you gotta go dude
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
November 22 2013 02:07 GMT
#1003
On November 22 2013 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 09:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On November 22 2013 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look. I am really sure bot Rean and Jampidampi are town.
Rean i have given my reasons on.
Jampidampi because of his stance on me. Look how i went batshit crazy on him He stayed calm, he did not take the easy way out of saying "yeah rayn is scum, fuck you martyr shitting up the thread". Instead he said "i know what you did in NWM, you do this stuff, why am i scum according to you?". That was so really townie.

WHAT??? That was the exact reason you gave him a scumread earlier. You basically said that he was scum because he should be voting for you for shitting up the thread.

On November 22 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jampidampi that's a really bad post and there was no townie motivation behind my last 10 posts (towards anyone else than Mocsta - who i should probably realize is incapable to see the point anyways, my bad) because that's what i was trying to do.

I can't find any reasons why you should have not voted for me unless you know i am town and therefore scum.


Yeah you have no idea how i play. But your vote is on me and you are scum so idgaf.

WTF kind of response is this? I point out a direct contridiction and your response is "you have no idea how i play". WTF does that even mean? How you play is that you give someone a scumread and then use that exact same reasoning later to give them a townread?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 02:08 GMT
#1004
At least i am not a whiny little girl when i am accused of being scum.
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Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 22 2013 02:09 GMT
#1005
who's the whiny little girl? JAR JAR??? boy you trippin
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 22 2013 02:09 GMT
#1006
On November 22 2013 11:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least i am not a whiny little girl when i am accused of being scum.

Yep,

just a whiny little girl every other day of the week.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 02:09 GMT
#1007
sorry i got really mad at aquanim... thrawn if you want me to do something before phase change ask.
i go calm down with a cigarrette.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 02:11 GMT
#1008
RAYN! Do you want to live? I am offering you the same olive branch you have repeatedly refused to accept. Post a list of your read on every player, at least a paragraph each should do.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 02:15 GMT
#1009
On November 22 2013 06:38 Rean wrote:
Hey, been in bed most of today with a headache, trying to catch up but it'll take a while

##Unvote:
##Vote: Rean

It's been a while.
for funzies. fos scum-scum interactions
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 02:16 GMT
#1010
On November 22 2013 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
RAYN! Do you want to live? I am offering you the same olive branch you have repeatedly refused to accept. Post a list of your read on every player, at least a paragraph each should do.

I did already?
And now i am voting for my townread because guess what? i did a 180 on him because of his bullshit statement.
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sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
November 22 2013 02:16 GMT
#1011
+ Show Spoiler [Bereft] +

On November 22 2013 10:59 Bereft wrote:
scib, here's the thing. i am not unwilling to compromise. it's not like i have no doubt in my mind. but rayn is not just my strongest read -- i don't see any value in keeping him around. as i stated when i voted for him, i think he's incredibly antitown with a terribly off-putting attitude. of course that attitude is gone now that he's under fire, but i think the way he busted into this thread on his high horse around page 33 is unacceptable.

Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 00:15 Bereft wrote:
basically I agree 100% with what thrawn said. rayns acting in a manner that makes it quite unlikely he's town, but in the off chance that he is, his attitude is horrible and I'd much rather have Rean around than him.


if you can give me a strong case on why rayn is town and worth keeping around and why onegu/rean/cora are a better lynch, i will consider it.


@Bereft
I can't make a strong case that rayn is town, as I'm honestly not sure what to expect from a scum rayn, but I do think that everything I've seen from him this game town rayn is capable of doing.

Also I don't like the idea of lynching someone because "if he's town then he's worthless so it's a win-win". I dislike it in general. And specifically to rayn, if this helps you not lynch him, the last two times I've played with town rayn he has contributed significantly to town after questionable day 1's.

There's nothing more for me to say about onegu, cora, and rean as they are all NOT HERE, which should be telling. What is holding you back from lynching them?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 02:18 GMT
#1012
On November 22 2013 11:07 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 22 2013 09:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On November 22 2013 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look. I am really sure bot Rean and Jampidampi are town.
Rean i have given my reasons on.
Jampidampi because of his stance on me. Look how i went batshit crazy on him He stayed calm, he did not take the easy way out of saying "yeah rayn is scum, fuck you martyr shitting up the thread". Instead he said "i know what you did in NWM, you do this stuff, why am i scum according to you?". That was so really townie.

WHAT??? That was the exact reason you gave him a scumread earlier. You basically said that he was scum because he should be voting for you for shitting up the thread.

On November 22 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jampidampi that's a really bad post and there was no townie motivation behind my last 10 posts (towards anyone else than Mocsta - who i should probably realize is incapable to see the point anyways, my bad) because that's what i was trying to do.

I can't find any reasons why you should have not voted for me unless you know i am town and therefore scum.


Yeah you have no idea how i play. But your vote is on me and you are scum so idgaf.

WTF kind of response is this? I point out a direct contridiction and your response is "you have no idea how i play". WTF does that even mean? How you play is that you give someone a scumread and then use that exact same reasoning later to give them a townread?

yeah Onegu, thrawn, jampidampi and Mocsta (albeit he is hit this game) knows how i play.
I do whatever i want.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 02:18 GMT
#1013
On November 22 2013 11:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
RAYN! Do you want to live? I am offering you the same olive branch you have repeatedly refused to accept. Post a list of your read on every player, at least a paragraph each should do.

I did already?



On November 22 2013 10:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 10:26 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 22 2013 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 22 2013 10:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
RAYN

Write a wall of text post and give your read on every single player. I'm looking for in depth explanations that show your thought process at work. If not every player at least give all your scumreads and any town reads you might feel comfortable posting.

tbh i have already done that.


It's hard to make sense of anything you say because it seems to change on a whim based on thread sentiment. I want a post consolidating all your current thoughts about this game because it will be way easier to read you compared to having to sort through your filter. The problem is that today you have been changing your reads so quickly that you haven't even had to justify them because as a result of how fast they change and as a result, your thought process is impossible to follow.

If you are town and want to save a townie from being lynched you will do this.

1.) Rean - town, read my filter.
2.) thrawn2112 - most likely town, willing to listen
3.) JarJarDrinks - scum, kill with fire. case.
4.) cDgCorazon - town, frustrated for me - Mocsta.seems genuine
5.) Bereft - scum. talks bullshit. scumslips. kill with fire
7.) Mocsta- scum - read what i said about him. i thought he would know better, nah, scum for what i said
8.) Aquanim - annoying (spoiler not for children)
+ Show Spoiler +
.... i wrote a lot of bad words here. ugh.. annoying.

9.) Onegu - town, has good gut reads. cool dude!
10.) Holyflare - town for knowing what he's talking about.
11.) sciberbia
12.) jampidampi


Is this what you are referring to? Do you sincerely think this will help town after you flip?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 02:18 GMT
#1014
EBWOP: hit = shit
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 02:19 GMT
#1015
On November 22 2013 11:18 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 11:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 22 2013 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
RAYN! Do you want to live? I am offering you the same olive branch you have repeatedly refused to accept. Post a list of your read on every player, at least a paragraph each should do.

I did already?



Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 10:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 22 2013 10:26 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 22 2013 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 22 2013 10:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
RAYN

Write a wall of text post and give your read on every single player. I'm looking for in depth explanations that show your thought process at work. If not every player at least give all your scumreads and any town reads you might feel comfortable posting.

tbh i have already done that.


It's hard to make sense of anything you say because it seems to change on a whim based on thread sentiment. I want a post consolidating all your current thoughts about this game because it will be way easier to read you compared to having to sort through your filter. The problem is that today you have been changing your reads so quickly that you haven't even had to justify them because as a result of how fast they change and as a result, your thought process is impossible to follow.

If you are town and want to save a townie from being lynched you will do this.

1.) Rean - town, read my filter.
2.) thrawn2112 - most likely town, willing to listen
3.) JarJarDrinks - scum, kill with fire. case.
4.) cDgCorazon - town, frustrated for me - Mocsta.seems genuine
5.) Bereft - scum. talks bullshit. scumslips. kill with fire
7.) Mocsta- scum - read what i said about him. i thought he would know better, nah, scum for what i said
8.) Aquanim - annoying (spoiler not for children)
+ Show Spoiler +
.... i wrote a lot of bad words here. ugh.. annoying.

9.) Onegu - town, has good gut reads. cool dude!
10.) Holyflare - town for knowing what he's talking about.
11.) sciberbia
12.) jampidampi


Is this what you are referring to? Do you sincerely think this will help town after you flip?

yes i do. there are 4 scumreds. cases are on my filter.
so?
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 22 2013 02:20 GMT
#1016
Scib
There is one thing to lynch scum and another to continue lynching scum

I agree that it is very bad those you named have had very low presence over the past 8hrs.
Rean in particular as a true lynch candidate.

However, even if we secured a non rayn scum lynch.. he is making this game unplayable and his reads are terrible. I'm not scum.

I see more value to town with a rayn lynch/mislynch than a scum lynch not in rayn.

Sorry to say it but he's playing that antitown I have to call for policy
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 02:21 GMT
#1017
also i am policy voting for rean because he said he will catch up and never did.
so in case you lynch me look at those people who said i was defending my scumbuddy.
plox
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 02:22 GMT
#1018
On November 22 2013 11:20 Mocsta wrote:
Scib
There is one thing to lynch scum and another to continue lynching scum

I agree that it is very bad those you named have had very low presence over the past 8hrs.
Rean in particular as a true lynch candidate.

However, even if we secured a non rayn scum lynch.. he is making this game unplayable and his reads are terrible. I'm not scum.

I see more value to town with a rayn lynch/mislynch than a scum lynch not in rayn.

Sorry to say it but he's playing that antitown I have to call for policy

this post is really bad. that's not how town!mocsta thinks.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 02:22 GMT
#1019
On November 22 2013 11:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 11:07 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On November 22 2013 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 22 2013 09:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On November 22 2013 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look. I am really sure bot Rean and Jampidampi are town.
Rean i have given my reasons on.
Jampidampi because of his stance on me. Look how i went batshit crazy on him He stayed calm, he did not take the easy way out of saying "yeah rayn is scum, fuck you martyr shitting up the thread". Instead he said "i know what you did in NWM, you do this stuff, why am i scum according to you?". That was so really townie.

WHAT??? That was the exact reason you gave him a scumread earlier. You basically said that he was scum because he should be voting for you for shitting up the thread.

On November 22 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jampidampi that's a really bad post and there was no townie motivation behind my last 10 posts (towards anyone else than Mocsta - who i should probably realize is incapable to see the point anyways, my bad) because that's what i was trying to do.

I can't find any reasons why you should have not voted for me unless you know i am town and therefore scum.


Yeah you have no idea how i play. But your vote is on me and you are scum so idgaf.

WTF kind of response is this? I point out a direct contridiction and your response is "you have no idea how i play". WTF does that even mean? How you play is that you give someone a scumread and then use that exact same reasoning later to give them a townread?

yeah Onegu, thrawn, jampidampi and Mocsta (albeit he is hit this game) knows how i play.
I do whatever i want.


When I hosted G.O.T. mafia it was the first time I'd seen you play and my impression of your scum play was that you were not afraid to push mafia objectives and you like to bully your way out of a conversation when someone is calling you scum. That matches what you are doing here. All day long I've been having flashbacks of this conversation in WC2 when you and umasi were scum:

On November 12 2013 23:50 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn answer me this. do you want me to post why I thought umasi might be scum


On November 12 2013 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are going to post why Umasi is scum youshould probably post why i am scum too, otherwise i don't care.
I have not fakeclaimed after Desert in any game.

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2013 02:23 GMT
#1020
town!mocsta couter claimed a medic (fakeclaimed) because he thought they were scum.
town!mocsta is not policylynching, ever.
town!mocsta also knows i am good at this game, not bad.
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