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I don't want to lynch rayn at all. Anyone that has played with rayn before should know he does batshit crazy stuff, tunnels people, and has ridiculous convinction in his reads. He normally gets his shit together by D2 or D3 and if he's still doing this at that time then I'd lynch him without blinking an eye. But nothing I've seen from him this game isn't possible from town rayn, and in fact there is good reason to believe he's town.
I'm not fully caught up, but just look at the thread atmosphere when rayn 'martyrs' himself and starts causing a ruckus. The majority of the votes were on Rean and Aquanim, and rayn wasn't even in the conversation of lynch candidates.
Rayn's not a noob. He doesn't play to lose. He had to know that what he was saying was going to be unpopular. It doesn't make any sense as scum for him to make a bunch of bold assertions, vote himself, and generally just draw negative attention. The only way this makes ANY sense at all is if Rean is also scum, but even then it wouldn't help for rayn to get himself lynched. I don't really see it.
Onegu is still the best lynch.. Onegu's only contribution since last night is a giant readdddz post where he votes Mocsta, and seems to content to be ignored, and hasn't posted since.
Onegu does not seem to care about who gets lynched, and he's avoided discussing it with the town.
@everyone in the thread right now
explain the scum motivation for rayn throwing a bunch of shit and even voting himself just as it looked like Rean was going to be lynched. Also, explain ANYTHING you have seen in Onegu's play that makes you think he is town.
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P.S. my vote is on JarJar so..
thrawn lead this town after D1, kthxbye
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I forgot to add rean to that list.
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There is 2 hours until deadline Moc. I will vote rayn only to avoid a no-lynch. Respond to my last post.
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On November 22 2013 09:43 sciberbia wrote:
There is 2 hours until deadline Moc. I will vote rayn only to avoid a no-lynch. Respond to my last post.
no need to do that. i will hammer myself just because i am so sure of my reads.
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On November 22 2013 09:43 sciberbia wrote:
There is 2 hours until deadline Moc. I will vote rayn only to avoid a no-lynch. Respond to my last post.
Ohh shit.. i was gettign confused with mafia lx
awesome, thanks man I was starting to panic.
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Basic Vote Count
cDgCorazon (0): thrawn2112, Mocsta, sciberbia, Onegu
Aquanim (2): thrawn2112. Mocsta, jampidampi, cDgCorazon, Rean, raynpelikoneet
Rean (0): Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, raynpelikoneet, Bereft, Mocsta, thrawn2112
Onegu (1): sciberbia
Bereft (0): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
Mocsta (0): raynpelikoneet
raynpelikoneet (6): thrawn2112, Mocsta. Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, Bereft, raynpelikoneet, cDgCorazon, thrawn2112
jampidampi (0): raynpelikoneet
Mocsta (1): Onegu, raynpelikoneet
JarJarDrinks (1): raynpelikoneet
No one is currently set to be lynched.
12 players alive means 7 votes to lynch. If you find an error in the vote count, please let me know.
Day 1 ends in at 03:00 GMT (+00:00)
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scib and thrawn:
i am banking the game on you now. read my posts. please read my posts. please please please.
if i am wrong on this you can laugh at me all day long but in mocsta,bereft,JJD there are at least 2 scum.
100% rayn guarantee.
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On November 22 2013 08:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 08:29 Bereft wrote:On November 22 2013 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 22 2013 08:12 Bereft wrote:On November 22 2013 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is everyone saying "rayn is scum because he does not give a fuck about who we lynch as long as that is not Rean"?
How does that make me scum? do you need it spelled out for you? why do you care so much about potentially mislynching Rean, but you don't have ANY qualms about lynching anyone else in the game? you DO realize it's not 2 town vs. 10 mafia, right? who's your strongest town read after Rean? Onegu? and how about after that? also, it's pretty obvious so I don't know why it begs repeating, but it's the job of every responsible townie to not throw away their vote and get a majority lynch on a scum read right now. scib, I'm looking at you. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE ABOUT MY TOWNREADS? WHAT'S THIS POST ABOUT? I just made a post on my top lynch target, and you ask me about fucking townreads. Well here you go. Onegu is town Rean is town Lonemeow/Holyflare is town Jampidampi is town Corazon is town sciberbia is most likely town Aquanim is most likely town there. because you've just about claimed everyone here is scum so your scum reads are a useless metric. your reads change every five minutes based on convenience anyways and I'm going to nail you to the fucking wall with them once I get home. No they don't. They change after i interact with people and based on what they say. Unlike yours. <3
please. your list of townies are either:
(a) people who aren't voting for you
(b) people who are voting for you but you think you can sway otherwise.
On November 22 2013 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah and Mocsta might be town.
how else did mocsta go from being definite scum buddies with me to being possibly town from this ONE post???
On November 22 2013 08:07 Mocsta wrote:
@Sciberbia, jamidampi, rean
Why are you not voting Raynpelikoneet?
guys i went back and checked the thread. particularly pages 40 to 41. rayn goes from being extremely confident that mocsta is scum to falling on blatant pathos towards mocsta when all mocsta had said since coming back to the thread after going to bed the night before is the post above. so how has his read changed so drastically? if we are to take his change of heart seriously, it means that THAT ONE POST BY MOCSTA CHANGED HIS MIND.
he essentially goes from:
On November 22 2013 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
One last thing before i am off for a while.
Mocsta and Bereft [u]literally claimed scum. There is no question about it. As they are saying they do not believe my actions a wwhile ago were because of what i explained later on, they can't retract from their scumclaims - because "that's not what townies do". This is pretty clear. There is no way they were gauging reactions or something because my actions couldn't be interpreted in any other light but scummy. There is no way for them to bullshit themselves out of this one.
Therefore you should lynch me. When i flip town it is 100% confirmed that Mocsta and Bereft both claimed scum.
to
On November 22 2013 08:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 08:21 Mocsta wrote:On November 22 2013 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And that means thrawn is scum. I was contemplating this last night too. For me its the dwindling activity - will have to push him for more. All he does is shit on me. And in the same sentence he tell people to not talk about me  If you are town i can guarantee thrawn is scum. But, plz, we need to lynch JJD. Mocsta, you know me, i do dumb (looking) stuff as town. But i have reasons for it. I have given my reasons. All these people i have never played before do not understand it. Look at Jampidampi, look at Onegu. They know my shit. They are not votingfor me. Why? They know what i do is not scumlike. Fuck jampidampi's behavior when i went "batshit crazy" on him was so 100% town. He knows NWM. He knows me and thinks critically. Apparenty you at least attempted to do so. haha. For a second think about it. If you can't understand it then okay, i fucked up. Then you vote for me. That's not the end of the world and i still have my reads to offer. But JJD - i tell you - he is scum. He is so very scum i suggest you read my case on him.
again, the only thing mocsta had poste when rayn starts to change his mind is the one i quoted.
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On November 22 2013 09:42 sciberbia wrote:
I don't want to lynch rayn at all. Anyone that has played with rayn before should know he does batshit crazy stuff, tunnels people, and has ridiculous convinction in his reads. He normally gets his shit together by D2 or D3 and if he's still doing this at that time then I'd lynch him without blinking an eye. But nothing I've seen from him this game isn't possible from town rayn, and in fact there is good reason to believe he's town.
I'm not fully caught up, but just look at the thread atmosphere when rayn 'martyrs' himself and starts causing a ruckus. The majority of the votes were on Rean and Aquanim, and rayn wasn't even in the conversation of lynch candidates.
Rayn's not a noob. He doesn't play to lose. He had to know that what he was saying was going to be unpopular. It doesn't make any sense as scum for him to make a bunch of bold assertions, vote himself, and generally just draw negative attention. The only way this makes ANY sense at all is if Rean is also scum, but even then it wouldn't help for rayn to get himself lynched. I don't really see it. Take this as scummy if you want to but, if rayn is town I don't see him dropping this behaviour. Hes impeding anyone from having meaningful discourse as he just interrupts and calls you scum and tries to take a dump on your front lawn as soon as your arrive at the driveway after a 12hr shift.
I myself have also been struggling with motive for rayns actions. is he really that butthurt? if so, I would have expected he cool down by now, but instead he is getting progressively worse.
Like i said last night, what is the trigger for this? Rayn was in my town reads the 24hrs ago - and was made aware of that.
Thrawn pulls out an oddity on rayn and then we disagree on some post interpretations and he starts going batshit crazy eventuating to a martyr. The build up almost seems forced to me?
My main issue is that I have identified *several* times that I can not follow how Rayn jumps from Rean is scum to Rean is town. he has made zero effort to fill in this gap
Onegu is still the best lynch.. Onegu's only contribution since last night is a giant readdddz post where he votes Mocsta, and seems to content to be ignored, and hasn't posted since.
Onegu does not seem to care about who gets lynched, and he's avoided discussing it with the town.
@everyone in the thread right now
explain the scum motivation for rayn throwing a bunch of shit and even voting himself just as it looked like Rean was going to be lynched. Also, explain ANYTHING you have seen in Onegu's play that makes you think he is town.[/QUOTE]I thought Onegu massive list post read alright (but I haven't double checked the facts)
Now that we have 2 hrs, Im going to priortise cross-referencing his reads on Bereft. If they are bullshit, Onegu to me comes out looking pretty bad.
The key difference for you guys is about this majority vote.
Whilst you disagre with rayn (like onegu) you acknowledge a lynch is required today.
Onegu on the other hand has not acknowledged this -- which gravely concerns me. I shouldnt have to appeal to him.
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On November 22 2013 09:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
scib and thrawn:
i am banking the game on you now. read my posts. please read my posts. please please please.
if i am wrong on this you can laugh at me all day long but in mocsta,bereft,JJD there are at least 2 scum.
100% rayn guarantee. GTFO
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Also I think Cora is pretty scummy. Reading his filter the feeling I get is that he KNOWS rayn is not scum,but acts as though his "hand was forced" into voting him even though there's plenty of time into the lynch and there are better candidates. He just says things like "rayn's behavior is not acceptable". And the actual scummy points he does raise against rayn are total BS.
On November 22 2013 04:45 cDgCorazon wrote:
I really do not like Rayn martyring...tbh the concept of martyring has been beaten to death and I think he's just using it as a ploy to gain town cred.
This is trying to apply a scumtell to a situation where it doesn't apply at all. If you have 8 votes on you then maybe martyrying is a scumtell, but rayn hardly had any pressure on him when he started trampling through the thread and voting himself. Read rayn's filter from the last 12 hours and tell me he has been trying to "gain town cred". He has been doing the complete opposite by pissing everybody off. Cora is reallly reaching hard here to justify his vote.
I'd be happy with a Cora lynch if anybody prefers him to Onegu.
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also Onegu, Rean and Jampidampi are so very town.
100% rayn guarantee.
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On November 22 2013 09:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 09:30 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please could you read my case on JarJar, and my bullet points against him. Those are really good. Yeah, the bullet points look really good until you realise they're mostly unsubstantiated by the actual quotes. Except that i made a big case <3
Big doesn't mean good. I didn't see a single one of your points that was actually substantitated by the quotes you supplied.
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Rayn I still have no idea what your reads are (the reason for this is that you do not give good enough explanations and sometimes don't give any explanations when your reads change) and why they change so quickly... I liked bereft's interpretation, that you are just changing reads so that whoever is calling you scum looks bad, and trying to place nice whenever someone changes their read on you in the scummy to townie direction.
This is the exact same issue I had with your play when you first entered the game... it looked like you quickly changing your read on me in order to tell me what I want to hear.
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EBWOP sorry for fail quotes
On November 22 2013 09:42 sciberbia wrote:
I don't want to lynch rayn at all. Anyone that has played with rayn before should know he does batshit crazy stuff, tunnels people, and has ridiculous convinction in his reads. He normally gets his shit together by D2 or D3 and if he's still doing this at that time then I'd lynch him without blinking an eye. But nothing I've seen from him this game isn't possible from town rayn, and in fact there is good reason to believe he's town.
I'm not fully caught up, but just look at the thread atmosphere when rayn 'martyrs' himself and starts causing a ruckus. The majority of the votes were on Rean and Aquanim, and rayn wasn't even in the conversation of lynch candidates.
Rayn's not a noob. He doesn't play to lose. He had to know that what he was saying was going to be unpopular. It doesn't make any sense as scum for him to make a bunch of bold assertions, vote himself, and generally just draw negative attention. The only way this makes ANY sense at all is if Rean is also scum, but even then it wouldn't help for rayn to get himself lynched. I don't really see it. Take this as scummy if you want to but, if rayn is town I don't see him dropping this behaviour. Hes impeding anyone from having meaningful discourse as he just interrupts and calls you scum and tries to take a dump on your front lawn as soon as your arrive at the driveway after a 12hr shift.
I myself have also been struggling with motive for rayns actions. is he really that butthurt? if so, I would have expected he cool down by now, but instead he is getting progressively worse.
Like i said last night, what is the trigger for this? Rayn was in my town reads the 24hrs ago - and was made aware of that.
Thrawn pulls out an oddity on rayn and then we disagree on some post interpretations and he starts going batshit crazy eventuating to a martyr. The build up almost seems forced to me?
My main issue is that I have identified *several* times that I can not follow how Rayn jumps from Rean is scum to Rean is town. he has made zero effort to fill in this gap
Onegu is still the best lynch.. Onegu's only contribution since last night is a giant readdddz post where he votes Mocsta, and seems to content to be ignored, and hasn't posted since.
Onegu does not seem to care about who gets lynched, and he's avoided discussing it with the town.
@everyone in the thread right now
explain the scum motivation for rayn throwing a bunch of shit and even voting himself just as it looked like Rean was going to be lynched. Also, explain ANYTHING you have seen in Onegu's play that makes you think he is town. I thought Onegu massive list post read alright (but I haven't double checked the facts)[/quote]
Now that we have 2 hrs, Im going to priortise cross-referencing his reads on Bereft. If they are bullshit, Onegu to me comes out looking pretty bad.
The key difference for you guys is about this majority vote.
Whilst you disagre with rayn (like onegu) you acknowledge a lynch is required today.
Onegu on the other hand has not acknowledged this -- which gravely concerns me. I shouldnt have to appeal to him.
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@everyone in the thread right now
explain the scum motivation for rayn throwing a bunch of shit and even voting himself just as it looked like Rean was going to be lynched. Also, explain ANYTHING you have seen in Onegu's play that makes you think he is town.)
WTFWTFWTF?!??!?!?!?!?*
What........... the ................. fuck.............!?! ?!?!??
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On November 22 2013 09:53 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 09:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 22 2013 09:30 Aquanim wrote:On November 22 2013 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please could you read my case on JarJar, and my bullet points against him. Those are really good. Yeah, the bullet points look really good until you realise they're mostly unsubstantiated by the actual quotes. Except that i made a big case <3 Big doesn't mean good. I didn't see a single one of your points that was actually substantitated by the quotes you supplied.
Trust me when I say this.
I'm finding Rayns cases townies - yes, he is that good
My issue is not the cases, but the lack of anchorage which all started from the flipflop on rean.
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Currently the deadline is 03:00 GMT (+00:00), but that is subject to change???
Did that change somewhere? becuase that's in 2 hours
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