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On November 25 2013 11:17 Onegu wrote: Nope see you didnt read my case, mocsta uses scum slips then calls out HF for his use of "scum slips". How could you say my case was a great case when you didnt even read it? I'd love to know where you are going with this. Also good luck convincing the others tomorrow that I'm scum. It's not going to happen. | ||
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On November 25 2013 12:04 Aquanim wrote: dammit corazon can you stop repeating that we got your message already How many town flips does it take for people to listen to what i have to say? | ||
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On November 25 2013 12:07 Mocsta wrote: Corazon you said you were scum in titanic. Were you jacksparrow? Yeah | ||
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On November 25 2013 12:07 Aquanim wrote: I listened to you. I was voting Onegu earlier. I changed my mind and decided JJD was scummier but I listened to your case. Even so, repeating yourself now changes nothing. This is the position we're in and now we do what we can to get out of it. We could vote Onegu. Oh wait... | ||
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Corazon
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I'm also fed up with Thrawn's play. Maybe you should ask him to justify his vote before asking others' opinions on it. This town is bordering on Titanic for worst town ever. | ||
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On November 25 2013 12:21 Mocsta wrote: Yes, I know I'm playing like crap for the past 72 hrs. OK, you are biased against Onegu the other way; maybe what I am interpreting and positive signs are actually null. What do you make of Onegu followups with me? I mean, of course either alignment will follow up a case; but he actually almost seems too excited to provide "evidence" to support his thoughts - to be faking it. As in, hes not harping on the same point and banging the same drum. Hes readjusting his position as I readjust mine. I just find in general to be a tell more applicable to town, as scum usually just want to discredit so are happy the point is being discussed in the first place. Thoughts? Why did it take 119 hours for Onegu to finally be cooperative? It's only after we've poked and prodded him to death that he finally decided to talk. Scum Onegu could see that town JJD was getting lynched and just used it as an opportunity to score free town cred while discussion wasn't really going anywhere? When it comes down to it, his shitty vote was still on you. You know being right too much about which wagon to choose is a scum tell as well? | ||
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On November 25 2013 13:31 Mocsta wrote: Corazon You are correct. I'm completely 50/50 on holy. He loves to play protown scum, whereas here he is really brazen. Unless he's trying to actively adjust his meta I'm. It sure why he would play this was as scum -- even with time restraints. Plus self confirming so I'm. It trying to put time into him. I'm reading scibs with a fine tooth now. I can't help feel his early game was to shit the thread. It's been a consistent feeling of mine all game for each reread. Ohh well more to go. How does what I write about onegu influence your scum read? I don't know, I'll look at other targets. I want to ask you two questions that sound weird but I promise I have a method behind my madness. How strong is your town read on Aqua? Is there anyone else you potentially have a strong town read on? | ||
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In my opinion, the biggest problem of Day 2 was the lack of thread movement in the first 20 hours. This was frustrating for me and for a lot of other active players. It obviously wasn't ideal and I think we need a way to fix that and force people to lurk less; we had to choose between 4-5 lurkers and they had no reason or motivation to delurk. This is bad. What is my suggestion to counter this? We form a town circle with Me, Aqua, Mocsta, and Bereft/Sciberia (one or possibly both). These five have been the most active players in the game and I think we can all put our heads together and force the others to de-lurk. How do we accomplish this? We should all talk for the rest of N2 and the beginning of D3. We should decide on a lynch within the first part of D3 and all pack our votes on that one player. This would force that person to delurk and we can change our vote or not based on their responses. I think we need to work closer together and form a temporary alliance for at least D3 and hopefully D4 if enough of the players are still around. If we can get 5 people in our circle, we can force scum to kill either two people in the circle (and either force HF to protect someone in the circle or out him as scum with a fake claim) or we can have 4 people in our circle and bully one other player into voting with us (if HF is town and gets shot). Let me know if this is a good idea or if I'm just dumb. | ||
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On November 25 2013 15:43 Mocsta wrote: I'm not against the idea Corazon. Def need more discussion. Would you be ok with that group of 5? It only works if we all think we are town at least a little bit. | ||
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On November 25 2013 15:46 thrawn2112 wrote: how bout we not talk about town reads and town circles at night How about you be more active and not force me to talk about this? | ||
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First of all, you've seen what happens when my opinion isn't taken seriously: Rayn flipped town when he was obviously town JJD flipped town when Onegu was the better lynch Why do you think I'm going to claim that no one listens to me? If people had thought about my opinion for two seconds, Rayn might still be around (that is debatable, I'll admit) and Onegu would be lynched and he would probably be more likely to roll scum. This happens in a lot of my games and forces reactions after seeing yet another VT flip due to the town not listening and not reading my arguments (at least without me pushing them). Second of all, you took the post from me and didn't add any context. I wrote it after I had received the 20th post this game that was formatted exactly like this: On November 23 2013 23:34 JarJarDrinks wrote: Want to repoint this out because aqua picked up on it and didn't really follow up: Not quite a scumslip, but pretty close I think. Cora posted quite a bit about how Onegu was likley scum because of how he voted. He made a post right before the flip where he wrote his name in red caps 3 times and then he made several posts after about how scummy he was. So how exactly can someone who believes that say "I think if there was a scum OFF the Rayn lynch, it is very likely to be [Jampi]." His brain shouldn't even be able to process that sentence. He tries to cover it up when questioned by saying: Yeah I meant BESIDES Onegu. But you would think that he wouldn't forget his top scum read. <Insert Corazon post> This post is scummy/a scum slip/is bad/something a scum would say. Corazon looks bad/scummy/like he is scum. <No vote> Before you go on and simply call me a bully, you need to look at others and you need to understand how bullies are made. Bullies aren't made because they think they are better than everyone else, they are made because they are being bullied by someone else, and they feel like they need to pick on others. Well here is the cycle. I get picked on for no reason and for no purpose to the thread other than talking about how scummy I am with absolutely no intention to vote for me. Why does anyone do this? It makes no sense to make these sort of comments without pushing any agenda. It serves one purpose: to irritate and annoy me and throw me off of my game. You (and many others both in this game and on this forum) need to understand that bullying is a cycle, and is rarely a straight line. Back to game matters. I never told you to be a town leader and I never said I was a town leader during D2. I was only town leader due to being the only one active for the entire cycle. I called on you to be more active and while you did step up your game a little bit, it's not enough to help in the scum hunt. I voted for you not just to pick on you, I voted to get you in the thread. My vote for you could've been on JJD or Bereft or Aqua. It was just random choice that I threw it on you (I'd also like to point out that you randomly tried to start a lynch train on me D1, or have you forgotten already?)/ You're not on my train because you aren't active enough. You're doing better than D1 (which is why I don't want you lynched D3) but not enough to be considered for my proposed town circle. Do you understand how frustrated me/Moc/Aqua are about the lack of activity this game? It allows at least 5 people to lurk without fear. There aren't 5 scum in the game. It's just detrimental to have this much lurking in a game, and it's hurting us in the long run. Sorry for the long train of thought but that's what I want to say. | ||
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Look over my proposal for the town wagon and let me know what you think. I think that it could potentially get us back into good shape this game. Going to bed, peace | ||
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On November 26 2013 04:28 Onegu wrote: Cora earlier you had responded to the mocsta case that I posted, yet then you thought my post was a new case with old arguements, how did you not see it was the exact same case you had defended yourself from earlier? Because you fail at BBCode | ||
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