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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 05:17 GMT
#1470
I meant the fact that you tried to find some scumminess in him calling Onegu "tunneled". My Onegu case/filter dive talkeda bout Onegu tunneling Mocsta. So basically you admitted to not reading my case. It's not scummy but it hurts my feelings XD
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 05:41 GMT
#1472
In my opinion HF and Onegu are the best lynches today. I think we should put the Mocsta thing on hold (aka not talk about him) until after those two are dead. If Mocsta is stilly alive by D4 (if we lynch these two) then I would take a better look at him.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 06:03 GMT
#1475
JJD, to be honest, Mocsta's frustration is warranted. Outside of myself/Aqua/Mocsta, no one else is driving the thread. I honestly think Mocsta is frustrated because no one is talking.

It already doesn't help that you don't move the thread but now you're just talking about someone who isn't going to get lynched today. It's not helping.

I want to tell you this in the most friendly, "we are on the same team" way. You need to be more active and more relevant if town is going to have a chance of winning. That goes to Bereft/Thrawn as well. The people who aren't lurking but don't have great thread presence.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 06:21 GMT
#1479
On November 24 2013 15:16 Bereft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 15:03 cDgCorazon wrote:
JJD, to be honest, Mocsta's frustration is warranted. Outside of myself/Aqua/Mocsta, no one else is driving the thread. I honestly think Mocsta is frustrated because no one is talking.

It already doesn't help that you don't move the thread but now you're just talking about someone who isn't going to get lynched today. It's not helping.

I want to tell you this in the most friendly, "we are on the same team" way. You need to be more active and more relevant if town is going to have a chance of winning. That goes to Bereft/Thrawn as well. The people who aren't lurking but don't have great thread presence.

if this is true, I think basically this means I can't play TL mafia unless I'm on vacation. because this is me making an effort to be active, believe it or not.

TBH your activity now is good, it would just be nice if more people could replicate it for longer. The same 3 people talking is never good for town.

About Onegu, I don't think his "genuineness" is enough to outweigh all of the things that I said about him. Do you think his case on you is from a townie trying to find scum?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 06:47 GMT
#1484
On November 24 2013 15:45 sciberbia wrote:
Also we really need to get this straight. If Rean is going to be replaced rather than modkilled I think we should also consider lynching that slot today.

Will rean/jamp be modkilled or replaced if they do not vote today?

Yes I know you are trying to be seamless as possible but these two haven't posted in two days. Please be more transparent with us.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 06:48 GMT
#1486
I feel like Bereft believes more in the case then Onegu does. Which should speak volumes about Onegu.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 06:49 GMT
#1487
On November 24 2013 15:47 Mocsta wrote:
Scibs

I completely endorse that post of yours on p74, 100%

As for the host question, may have to PM it to him.

Unfortunately, I think its still too early to talk about modkills. These "dipshits" often post in the last 10 minute of the cycle screwing up all planning that occurs - as town or scum.

A majority may be difficult as well??

I pm'd OO at the beginning of the cycle and no response. T.T

Jampi didn't post at all N1 and he should have been modkilled.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 06:50 GMT
#1488
Rean didn't post N1 either. He should be modkilled too.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 06:56 GMT
#1491
On November 24 2013 15:55 Aquanim wrote:
The rules are one post each day/night cycle which I don't think means once each day and once each night.

Oh I thought day/night meant 1 post every day and 1 post every night.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 07:04 GMT
#1493
Thank you, I appreciate the transparency.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 07:16 GMT
#1498
Being scum and "skating by" isn't the sign of good scum play. It's the sign of either bad town play or just sheer luck.
Being scum and actively pushing townie lynches and avoiding suspicion is good scum play.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 16:10 GMT
#1549
First of all Onegu, do you misformat cases on purpose so people just see that you made and case and actually don't read it? This is 3/4 cases that have been misformatted, if I can count right.

The fact of the matter is that this case is bad because it's hypocritical, it's partially other's arguments, and it has no teeth (like every single other case you have made).

It's hypocritical because you've switched your reads randomly as well (your 180 on Rayn with no explanation).
It's partially other's arguments because I heard most of this shit before from other people.
It has no teeth because you didn't vote for Mocsta.

No one knows who you want lynched and it seems like you never believe in any of your cases. Why are you so hesitant to vote for anyone you make a case on? Do you actually believe that Mocsta/Bereft are scum? If so, why isn't your vote on them? If not, why are you wasting our time with cases and tell us who you want lynched.

TBH Mocsta's read switches are a result of his usual play and the fact that he re-evaluates the game very often. Even the point (singular point) you make in this case is very weak.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 16:12 GMT
#1550
Also guys, you all suck and I'm not voting JJD. I made a case on Onegu and I don't think half of you have read it. You try to point out JJD being scum using his filter and his actions from a tiny little window. It's this little bad heuristic you guys have been using the whole game and it is really dumb.

Looking at JJD's filter from the entire game, do you really think he is scummier than Onegu? The answer is no.

If you guys are going to be dicks and not listen to me, why should I listen to you?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 16:34 GMT
#1555
It's not as scummy as how you changed your read on Rayn. You went from scum to town and given the situation in the game and Rayn's flip, you look like you were trying to distance yourself from a Rayn lynch.

Mocsta has changed his reads but when it comes down to the hard votes and the votes that matter Mocsta's been pretty consistent (aka his vote on Rayn D1. We haven't reached that critical point in D2).
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 16:51 GMT
#1560
On November 25 2013 01:47 Onegu wrote:
Also cora maybe you should read the case like if thrawn or someone you find townie wrote it and not just dismiss it because I wrote it and I changed my read on rayn, who I know his meta well at this point I can tell when he is scum.

Also if I was scum I would have hammered rayn so hard at that point.

The best thing for the scum to do in that situation is vote and do nothing as Rayn is self-destructive.

Please answer my other points in refuting your Mocsta case and answer my big case on you, please.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 17:18 GMT
#1563
On November 24 2013 13:24 cDgCorazon wrote:
@holyflare: Who do you want lynched and why?

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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 17:25 GMT
#1565
On November 25 2013 02:20 Holyflare wrote:
I don't like the colour brown so maybe chezinu

Too bad the color brown reflects your play this game, whether you are scum or town.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 17:27 GMT
#1567
On November 25 2013 02:26 Holyflare wrote:
I'm too meta for this game tbh you just don't get why yet.

So your meta is not having any scum reads?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 17:29 GMT
#1570
On November 25 2013 02:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 02:27 cDgCorazon wrote:
On November 25 2013 02:26 Holyflare wrote:
I'm too meta for this game tbh you just don't get why yet.

So your meta is not having any scum reads?


You sure like to make mountains out of mole hills

You sure like to take "useless" to a new level.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 24 2013 17:40 GMT
#1575
On November 25 2013 02:39 Bereft wrote:
Chez, do you plan to actually be useful or spout riddles all game?

He's already said he wants sci dead, which is one more scumread than HF has given out.
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