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/in if I'm allowed. Basically I played like 3-4 games here around 3 years ago. And I played right now one game in II Titanic Mafia, so I'm over the limit but I'm deffo a newb in mafia and most of my experience is really old. So if you would have me I would like to play. | ||
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@players, im vanilla town so I dont see any reasons for you to not like me  | ||
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see you in 72 hours | ||
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On January 06 2014 07:47 TheChyz wrote: Why so eager to have people help you achieve your goals? Maybe they don't agree with them. If onlywonderboy is right, then your rules help you if you are scum as well since you seem to be very active in which lynching lurkers would help your cause of staying alive. Also having people fight can cause confusion in the town. So I don't see a reason why people should just help you achieve your goals. You don't see a reason why people should help Bella with creating a "tough environment for mafia to hide in and lynch some mafia" ? | ||
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Anyhow, regarding the lurker situation, I will +1 Balla's idea. As long as we get everyone to contribute in some way it will make the game so much easier. But for my experience lurkers are not more mafia than town, my last game two lurkers got modkilled day 3 and they were both town, so we should push them to contribute and not blindly lynch them because of it. If we get to the end of day1 and we have no strong scumreads I can support a lurkerlynch just because that could be the best option. But untill then I won't be talking about lynching lurkers. | ||
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On January 06 2014 08:23 Balla24 wrote: Let's hear some opinions on some people. Sidesprang what do you think of OWB and thechyz so far? etc etc Be analytical. I'm already feeling a bit weird with thechyz but it's preliminary obviously and i'm waiting for him to post some more. @ onlywonderboy atm he is just null for me. from his PoV he has only stated obvious things so far. It not really contributing atm, but its to early to fault him for that. And he does say he is going to more active and contribute with meaningfull analysis, so as long as he atleast tries to do this we should be able to read him in the future. @ thechyz, I don't like him atm. In his first post he says he agrees with you and dont mind lynching lurkers to discourage lurking. But then in his second post he says he see no reason to why people should help you achivieving that same agenda he just agreed with. Feels very much like a contradiction to me. | ||
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##Vote theDragoon On January 07 2014 07:21 theDragoon wrote: /offtopic:Yea i get it. I just felt like a lot of people look into my posts too much thinking there's some sort of link or slip or whatever when in reality i just don't know WTF I'm doing. /ontopic: I'm gonna ##Unvote onlywonderboy and ##Vote theDragoon. There's no way to get out of this mess, you're all really looking at the wrong guy. I guess without me fucking things up for the town, you'd be better off but this is going to be 2 down for mafia after the first night. I have to head out, I'll be on later. I'll be catching up for a bit, if anyone have any questions feel free to ask I'll be around for a bit. But gonna use some time catching up as a lot have been posted. | ||
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Man this sucks so much. Rollplay fallen so far atm, no idea if It can ever pick up again :S | ||
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Also, why did you change your mind and wanted to defend yourself afterall ? | ||
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Also why is suki scum if you flip town? | ||
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I'm here now, so if you wanna lynch me why don't you poke me for some reads or something. Kinda like the plan was with lurkers in the start of the day... | ||
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Atleast that is what pops to my head first when trying to see it from a mafia perspective. | ||
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There are only two reasons to lynch a lurker as I see it. 1. There are no clear active mafia candidate 2. You will never be able to read the lurker. I think when he posts some more we will be able to get a read on him, its not like he is posting one liners. | ||
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As it looks now either theDragoon, Day_Walker or a lurker will be lynched. So I tried to look into those so I could place my vote in a place where it will hopefully matter. And also provide the rationale for my vote. Regarding the lurkers, as I said before I do not think its wise to lynch a lurker just because they are lurking. I also do think that all is posting enough so we can form reads later on. Votes will help with providing reads on them. So i'm not really to worried about this atm. Day_Walker When I read his filter I see a possibility for him being scum, however I think its way more likely for him to be scum if theDragoon is scum. I feel he gave him a weak townread in the start with his list. And when BigDad says he find Day_Walker and theDragon both became overly defensive about it. And also as chinstrap pointed out making a scumcase for the lurkers and a towncase for theDragoon, is something that very well can be done as scum regardless of theDragoon's allignment. And the more I think about it, I think it's more likely to be done if he is scum. If he makes a case for theDragoon is town then if he flips town he gets cred. If he flips scum then he tried to save his buddy. I do however feel this is very circumstantial and I would not feel comfortable lynching him, but this is what I read when I tried to view him as scum. theDragoon He seems overly defensive and to scared when stuff is coming his way. If I counted correct he had 4 votes on him when he martyred. I'm really not a big fan of people voting for themselves or giving up, and the fact that he did it so early aswell makes it worse imo. I think it felt a lot worse to him than it was because he is scum. This is also how I feel with a lot of his posts prior. The whole "him trusting DW" and them being a scum togheter just feels like he is way to scared of attention than he should be. I'm not sure why he turned and started defending himself again, I would not be suprised if he got talked into it by the scum QT. His defence is also weak, I dont feel he is trying to make a good case for himself, and actually prove he is town. Half of the post he tries to refute some points, and the other half he is just pointing fingers. Atm he knows he is on the chopping block, but he left the thread again which makes me think he have given up again. I will keep my vote on theDragoon. I feel he is the most likely to flip scum. As I said I will leave and prolly not come back before deadline so if anyone got question ask them fast. | ||
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It might just be because I know now that theDragoon is town. But his posts in the end is actually a really good and convincing defence. Like I dont think he would have done that as scum. And I would say atleast johnny and OWB are more town for doing that voteswitch. Reason being: If we actually lynched dnyarri and he came up town, they kinda stuck their neck out for nothing. The way they changed vote without any explanation and kinda out of the blue would have been hard to explain. Especially with a green lynch on their vote swap. I don't think scum would have taken that risk. On the other hand, seeing how it went down. I can't fault others for not following, especially since I can only now read theDragoons post while knowing he is town. Its a bit hard for me to judge how much towny he looked before the vote. I think we should spend some more energy on looking at the votes. I'll try to see if I can find something. And we also need to get dynarri to talk more. Atm he is the only one that is not contributing enough to be able to read properly. I thought / hoped he would be more active than this. So Dnyarri: What are your current reads, and what do you think about the vote swaps onto you yesterday? | ||
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