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chinstrap
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Balla24
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OWB doesn't play risky, you said it yourself, he's being very careful. | ||
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suki
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Balla24
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Balla24
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chinstrap
United Kingdom253 Posts
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Balla24
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chinstrap
United Kingdom253 Posts
My current position is: If dynarri flips town - BigDad and Day_Walker scum team If dynarri flips scum - sidesprang is scum #3 | ||
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chinstrap
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Balla24
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He never really acts on it. Definitely probably not worth writing off. | ||
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Day_Walker
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If you look over Derrida's filter, in retrospect what do you think were his biggest scum tells? | ||
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Balla24
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Balla24
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On January 09 2014 22:21 sidesprang wrote: K, thanks. Then we should be in a very good position imo. I'm trying to read into Derrida's filter, and I think Day_Walker also comes out more town from it. I doubt a he would buddy up like he did in the first post if Day_Walker was scum. I think it would be more an attempt to pocket him than anything else. Also when reading Derrida's first post, he fails to mention both Asuna and Dnyarri. I have only read up on Dnyarri atm, but I really can not understand how you can fail to mention Dnyarri in a list like he made. He had only posted two post by that time. + Show Spoiler + On January 06 2014 20:05 dnyarri wrote: I think TheChyz is suspicious. First he says (s)he wants so lynch lurkers anyway. When people started to suspect him/her (s)he said that (s)he did it on purpose to catch bandwagoners. Bandwagons however give lurkers easy targets which seems contradicts his/her original agenda of lynching lurkers. Also, TheChyz has only brought confusion and only potentially useful analysis (s)he has brought to table is against Day_Walker who was attacking TheChyz with the list. It appears more like TheChyz is trying to save his/her skin. Though I think Day_Walker is suspicious because of the list, I find TheChyz more suspicious and I don't believe that as a scum Day_Walker would attack another scums this early. ##Vote: TheChyz + Show Spoiler + On January 06 2014 23:43 dnyarri wrote: Actually I have changed my primary target of suspicion from TheChyz to TheDragoon mainly because of this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723¤tpage=16#316 TheDragoon stated that Day_Walker seemed like innocent even though Day_Walker had only posted one list and nothing else. Day_Walker's only vote is against TheChyz which doesn't mean much since TheChyz is easy bandwagoning target. TheDragoon's post give me the impression that he wants to slow voting down by defending (random) people while going to TheChyz-bandwagon and attacking nobody else. TheChyz is confusing but I'm not sure if it's carelessness or risk taking. My logic for calling him scum was somewhat faulted too I think. ##unvote ##vote: TheDragoon In two posts, Dnyari votes for two different people. And his posts looks rather fishy to me. With posts like those two how can you not mention Dnyarri in a list like that. Unless you had a reason not to. That coupled with derrida trying to prevent us from lynching lurkers, and in essence to save dnyarri makes me believe there is a high chance dnyarri is scum. ##Vote Dnyarri | ||
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Balla24
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Balla24
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On January 07 2014 18:36 BigDad wrote: Albeit reluctantly I'm liking Day_Walker's stance on lurkers. It's obvious that only Mafia and Serial Killers benefit from lurkers. I've re-read his filter and am now having doubts about stance on him. Day_Walker has started contributing more in the content of his posts than when I made my first accusations. In this post he highlights the benefits for the group of targeting an obvious, yet relatively untouched group of people who have contributed a grand total of essentially nothing. We stand to lose nothing, yet potentially gain from challenging them out of their silence. My reads for suspicious player currently stand against Dnyarri and theDragoon with less doubt on Day_Walker for his pro-town stance on lynching those who aren't contributing. ##Unvote: Day_Walker (Explanation above; also, I don't want to waste a vote on him if we decide to kill of the Anti-Town lurkers or that theDragoon is scummy.) On January 07 2014 20:30 BigDad wrote: Im off too bed also, I'm going to have to go with either theDragoon or dnyarri. I may not be awake when the lynch occurs, but if in the next few hours you guys decide to choose a lurker over theDragoon i'll place my vote on dnyarri so that it may be easier to secure a majority. Im happy for either of them to go as one looks scummy and the other isn't adding much at all. ##Vote: dnyrarri BigDad retreats off of his case for Day_Walker really fast after his "stance" on lurkers and then votes directly on his previous scum read's target without hesitation. This is seriously suspicious. Especially considering he said this about Chyz earlier in the day: [B]On January 07 2014 08:44 BigDad wrote: I was looking through everyones feeds and saw that, i thought it was notable considering the early (and large) play by him - then the hasty retreat from play with an easy vote on a Lurker. What is your analysis on him so far? (Context is he's calling out thechyz for making an "easy vote" on dnyarri and then saying he has to go afk) BigDad, you did EXACTLY the same thing as Chyz later on. That's really weird. | ||
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chinstrap
United Kingdom253 Posts
On January 10 2014 02:58 Balla24 wrote: Basically, all my scum reads have voted for or are pushing dnyarri... that's a pretty big tell that dnyarri will flip town. If you have a better target I'm all ears. | ||
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probuLing
United States75 Posts
On January 10 2014 00:28 suki wrote: Asuna: I have a few questions for Asuna: You said this in response to the NK. How is this more awkward than anyone else being killed? Who are your top scum reads now, and why? You were gone for the whole night phase, and have barely commented on it now that it's Day 2. You're borderline lurking here. It's awkward because I was railing on him as being scummy the entire time. It's also awkward because he was part of the reason I found Day_Walker to be scummy. As of right now, I'm a bit iffy about DW because he's changed his play after people pointed stuff out that looked weird about it, and seems really overtly townie now but didn't before to me. So... not sure if he's just playing better or compensating. I had him as my vote before though and would be much more hesitant to vote him now, which makes me wonder. Dnyarri seems like the declared sort of lurking he said he would be. Nothing really makes me think mafia about him. But um, my vote's still on DW. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 10 2014 02:12 Balla24 wrote: Yeah, sidesprang was one of my weaker relationships. Sidesprang never mentioned derrida once in his entire time until he died. That indicates there IS a relationship. Derrida was relatively hard on Sidesprang the entire game, BUT it was very easy to fake, especially in his first post where he gives him red... He never really acts on it. Definitely probably not worth writing off. I read that more as Derrida trying to push a case on a semi-lurker that he could justify as a reasonable read when he flipped town. It seemed like he was posturing himself for Day 2 and of course didn't expect to die. I'm still getting a scum vibe from Day_Walker. There are his interactions with Derrida prior to his flip On January 09 2014 02:15 Day_Walker wrote: I don't like Derrida's post, and I'm going to bed. On January 09 2014 02:33 Day_Walker wrote: Also because it is full of statements which are factually incorrect. You have not read the thread carefully. While this is a negative statement against Derrida it's hardly pushing him very hard. Could easily be a weak read to just to build cred if Derrida ever flipped scum (although I doubt the scum team expected it to come so soon) I also don't think his main theory of Asuna/dnyarri/Derrida is super solid. It revolves heavily around the idea of Derrida leaving out Asuana and dnyarri from his initial reads. I just can't imagine a scum player purposely leaving BOTH of his partners off of a list. It's so suspicious and something people could easily find. If that's what actually happened that might be the worst mafia play I've seen in all my newb games. If we are less certain about dnyarri being scum I'm fine with finding a new target, but at this point even if we lynch him we find out a lot of information regardless of how he flips. | ||
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Deleted User 323385
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I will NOT join another game. Note: I joined this game before Christmas holiday and believed that game would have started earlier. Instead, it started on my last day of holiday when I was already busy. In addition, I underestimated how much time mafia would consume and retrospectively shouldn't have confirmed. "Question to dnyarri then: If you could lynch 2 people right now and be able to save 1 in the night, who would they be?" Hard question. I don't think I can answer that completely now. I suspect Day_Walker most. - Day_Walker has been lobbying for their false Asuna+dnyarri+Derridan theory. - For some reason Day_Walker rated onlywonderboy Town after onlywonderboy's meaningless D1 posts but started rallying against me since my first post. - Day_Walker was rated GREEN by confirmed scum Derrida I'd probably save chinstrap. chinstrap is IC and very active. Since nobody here is attacking chinstrap, chinstraps death wouldn't give useful information. It would be purely loss for town. "If you look over Derrida's filter, in retrospect what do you think were his biggest scum tells?" - Derrida's list: Gave you, Day_Walker GREEN while trying to excuse possible missreading with lack of experience - Voting against TheDragoon after ranking him ORANGE and without giving proper reason | ||
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Balla24
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On January 10 2014 07:25 dnyarri wrote: I'd probably save chinstrap. chinstrap is IC and very active. Since nobody here is attacking chinstrap, chinstraps death wouldn't give useful information. It would be purely loss for town. IC means they are 100% confirmed town by moderator. | ||
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