TL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 9

On November 19 2013 11:02 Oatsmaster wrote:

And? So the first time I think of something I HAVE to post it in the thread?
Do you have a point here or do you just wanna say im contradictory and therefore Im scum when that is totally not the case.

On November 19 2013 11:20 Oatsmaster wrote:

I dont even. What?
Who plays like this?

On November 19 2013 11:24 Oatsmaster wrote:

i meant the part where you dont engage me and dont care about my answers to your totally weak points.

On November 19 2013 11:29 Oatsmaster wrote:

its completely uncommon for my scum play.

On November 20 2013 04:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
Warning: Conjecture ahead

So I did a little research on the timestamps of when SS announced he would kill mocsta as mayor and the votes that followed after that.

Supersoft says he would kill mocsta at 9:57, says he will filter mocsta at 9:47

Austinmcc switches his vote to supersoft at 9:23

Then switches back to VE at 9:47 as well.

I was hoping it would be a little more conclusive but he would have had to change his vote in the same minute for this to have any merit...anyways something to keep in mind for austin.

On November 20 2013 06:33 Pandain wrote:



Can you explain to me why you think BC is town? Or at least I got that impression from you in our chats and in thread.

I think BC is either scum or playing poorly, and I don't think I can decide that yet to make a definitive decision to lynch him tomorrow.

I'll explain my analysis:

1. He berated rayn for trying to find masons, yet in our first post in our mason chat he revealed something connected to you that I'm sure you know today. So that doesn't make sense. And I don't think I was town enough to justify revealing that info.

2. I revealed my mig notes' discovery which I felt pretty much definitively proved Mig is town. I don't like how BC was hesistant giving him a high town read. Here's his quote:

It says he's town, but I don't like how it just seems hesistant. Maybe I'm overthinking this part.


I looked over his town and scum games and the biggest thing that I found to differentiate them is that Town BC will find something suspicious and then analyze it himself. Scum BC will simply note it(until of course he gives a later big analysis) .

I don't like other areas of BC's play either


Just seems weird to me, add that I think his grack analysis was pretty poor. "HF, if you keep this up, we'll lynch you!" Guess scum HF now knows what to do.

And other stuff like that, I can explain more if you want

On November 20 2013 06:39 Pandain wrote:


Mattchew you keep inviting yourself to get lynched

On November 20 2013 06:56 supersoft wrote:
I see the necessity to lynch him. Otherwise this town will never be able to analyze anything.
But hey, we have a doublelynch tomorrow. Can't we just kill him tomorrow?

On November 20 2013 07:02 supersoft wrote:


and kill Oatsmaster today?

On November 20 2013 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh it was rounded down. Nevermind, BH is scum either way and therefore the best lynch.

On November 20 2013 08:54 austinmcc wrote:
Alright. Early bit of the day nice. Things that I found interesting while reading.

(1) OOHCHILD came off very townie to me.

• Calls out rayn for making thread hard to read, + townie points + Show Spoiler +
  On November 18 2013 22:03 OOHCHILD wrote:
  rayne the problem with you is i have to read your whole filter to get the case on BH, because you spread it out one piece at a time.
  I wish you could consolidate your case into 1 post, can use quotes of your other posts if you want.
  Because I know there are good points against BH you brought up, but your most recent one is pure wifom and pretty terrible.

  On November 18 2013 23:54 OOHCHILD wrote:
  gratz you guys have successfully made it nearly impossible for anyone but yourselves to read the whole game. well done.
  there's literally no way BC is going to have the time to catch up, and it's way harder to read someone who doesn't read.
  
  So please rayne koshi artanis everyone knows you are all town. Stfu and let other people talk please, and if you have something to say, CONSOLIDATE your thoughts.

  
  
• Wants things from people that town should be wanting (more the first than the second stuff, but the second stuff is him trying to read slam's posts and wanting answers for how to read), + town + Show Spoiler +
  On November 19 2013 03:30 OOHCHILD wrote:
  Also can thrawn just post bhs supposedly super townie mason chat

  On November 19 2013 03:56 OOHCHILD wrote:
  alakaslam can you tell me what you are implying from those quotes?
  
  also did you read my erotic fantasy fiction about you?

  On November 19 2013 04:00 OOHCHILD wrote:
  only answer my questions alakaslam. disregard all others.

  
  

The first thing there is really what does it for me though. It's the truth. There were actually a number of good/interesting/alignment-indicating posts for me in the START of today, less so towards the end, but a lot of them got smushed up and lost in between other stuff.

(2) Mig is town.

• Only person to ask who asked about town/scum numbers. Not just doing it for show because he put it under his read on me in his notes. Sees a thing that maybe gives insight, finds out more about, factors into read. Boom.
• Mig, imo, read BC's case on mocsta/grack more critically than others. A lot of people focused on why mocsta might/might not talk to grack in a certain way, would he bus, would he not bus, etc. Mig went and read mocsta's filter for OTHER angry attacks, to compare with the grack attacks, ++ townie points + Show Spoiler +
  On November 19 2013 02:46 Mig wrote:
  Ok I am back. BC's case against Grack is completely retarded and factually incorrect. Did anyone read mocsta's filter before blindly believing that mocsta was only mad towards Grack? If anything mocsta might have been more angry with artanis.
  
  

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  On November 17 2013 00:39 Mocsta wrote:
  This is an absolute joke.
  
  Why are you intentionally trying to manipulate this situation into your favour.
  

  
  

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  On November 17 2013 01:11 Mocsta wrote:
  Now you are making yourself look stupid.
  

  
  
  

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  On November 17 2013 01:27 Mocsta wrote:
  This is absolutely pointless now and shitting the thread.
  
  I made a new case on Storrzerg dipshit.
  

  
  
  Mocsta also insults me and supersoft as well in his posts.
  
  I am not liking BC right now. His initial case against Grack was fluffed up with 5 paragraphs about trolling and now this bs.
  
  
  

  
  

(3) I like the BH lynch. Someone touched on this i think, but didn't hammer it home. Read this post - + Show Spoiler + - BH explaining why mocsta would bus grack. BH is really keyed in on grack = scum, and he's...way off the mark here with his reasoning. We're talking about DAY 1 of a game and NIGHT 1 of a game. Moreover, it's a mayoral game, so mocsta had as much control over the D1 lynch as my great grandmother has over her bowels. None. Like, seriously, feces everywhere. Mocsta can't "bus" anyone D1, because he can't LYNCH anyone D1. Mocsta can "bus" someone N2, but...instead of staying on grack and focusing grack and maybe even shooting grack (the ultimate bus would be scum vigi mocsta shooting scum grack), he swaps over to storrzerg.

Look at dat. IF MOCSTA WERE BUSSING GRACK HE WOULD HAVE SHOT GRACK FOR SUPER DUPER FREE TOWN CRED. So not only could mocsta NOT bus anything D1 because it was mayoral, but mocsta COULD have bussed super duper sexy hard if he really wanted to. BH's reasoning for the mocsta/grack interaction reads SO illogical to me that it's just more fuel. It's not a case of not reading the thread, mocsta flipped assassin. ANYONE who thinks mocsta was bussing grack has to account for the fact that mocsta couldn't lynch anyone D1 and could have shot anyone N1.

##vote: BH

(4) There's a separate post coming on some thrawn stuff

(5) Koshi, why would you suggest that if BH flips town, we lynch a top scumread of his as one of the double lynches tomorrow? Someone else called you out for essentially saying we should follow a dude who, if town, has stated he doesn't have much time and isn't keeping up. But why would we EVER give a lynch to a single dude after death over town consensus?

(6) rayn no longer scummy, imo. He's way way way too spammy, but oh well. He followed up on questions about Holyflare when nobody was discussing HF and he could have sat on other topics, he's made some good points today, and while I feel like he's...trying to post in too many directions at once for right now, i like MOST of them. Although he's been spammy and the thread is difficult to catch up with, it's not difficult to catch up with because rayn has been having THE SAME shitfight with people. He's spammy in a bunch of different directions, most of them townie and good, and that's a big positive, imo. It means less likely he's intentionally clogging thread, because he shouldn't be starting new discussions if he just wants to clog (or should start only meaningless discussions).

(7) If VE were scum and posted a list D1 of 5 or whatever people to shoot, I would expect there to be scum on it. Never hard and fast rule, but if you think he's scum because so many of his possible D1 kills were town, then I'd be interested in hearing whether you think UNFLIPPED people on that list are likely scum (if VE is scum).

(8) Probably a separate post on BC as well? I'll do thrawn and BC solo in separate posts.

(9) I did not get the sense that HF was trying to read me in mason chat. I gave him a pass early, thought about going back to look, but never did, felt I was doing some stuff in thread and stuck with that. So...I didn't feel that EITHER of us was really trying to tease out the other's alignment. I was curious that he might find me slightly scummy, but never for super articulated reasons beyond the very obvious (amg he active but no reads, wut dis?)/

(10) ss also looks good for wanting to kill rayn to save the thread. He's had good posts today, the mocsta thing makes him look good as well. Everyone can say "but maybe he wouldn't have actually killed mocsta if we elected him!!!!" Nobody cares. Yes, he might have done any number of things, he could have spammed nothing but goatse pics as mayor. But your speculation over what he might have done holds less weight than his statements about what he was going to do, and saying "I will lynch mocsta with my mayoral lynch" --> "JK dudes, lynching this other guy" --> mocsta ever flipping would look TERRIBLE for ss. Absolutely not worth saying you'll do it and opening yourself up to looking that bad as scum.