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Now, on to the posts I found noteworthy:
On November 17 2013 03:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Your wish is my command, it seems like if I don't yamato is just going to kill me so here's what i've been sitting on
Oh shit is yamato actually going to lynch me ._. the people i have to put up with...
Fine i'll solve this problem. I do
don't lynch me I'm the Tracker
Here's my crumb http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275¤tpage=61#1202
Sock head > sock is like soccer, which is known as football = football head
Also the first word of the post is "hey" and you know who is referred to by "hey, football head!" that's right, it's Arnold from Hey Arnold. And you know who Arnold is?
Yes that is right, I am the tracker, don't lynch me, you are all jubjubs for even thinking about doing it, especially you Yamato
Your wish is my command, it seems like if I don't yamato is just going to kill me so here's what i've been sitting on
Oh shit is yamato actually going to lynch me ._. the people i have to put up with...
Fine i'll solve this problem. I do
don't lynch me I'm the Tracker
Here's my crumb http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275¤tpage=61#1202
Sock head > sock is like soccer, which is known as football = football head
Also the first word of the post is "hey" and you know who is referred to by "hey, football head!" that's right, it's Arnold from Hey Arnold. And you know who Arnold is?
Yes that is right, I am the tracker, don't lynch me, you are all jubjubs for even thinking about doing it, especially you Yamato
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On November 17 2013 03:47 Blazinghand wrote:
I've played trolly and non-trolly as both scum and town. It's certainly not helpful when I'm a lurking troll D1 as town but it happens all the time and it's always the same conversation when it does. Here's how it goes.
Some guy: hey why is bh so quiet and unhelpful? he did this once as scum, therefore he is scum
Me, or sometimes someone who knows me: yeah that's not really alignment indicative. BH definitely CAN be lurky and useless as scum but it happens when he is town as well; and him being active is not a towntell for him either. Basically the only towntell for BH is him catching scum
Some guy: but I want to lynch BH based on a poor understanding of his meta!!!! wahhh
so in any case let me know if you want to have that conversation, again, with real words, or if this will suffice for you. Lynching me today is a terrible idea. don't do it.
I've played trolly and non-trolly as both scum and town. It's certainly not helpful when I'm a lurking troll D1 as town but it happens all the time and it's always the same conversation when it does. Here's how it goes.
Some guy: hey why is bh so quiet and unhelpful? he did this once as scum, therefore he is scum
Me, or sometimes someone who knows me: yeah that's not really alignment indicative. BH definitely CAN be lurky and useless as scum but it happens when he is town as well; and him being active is not a towntell for him either. Basically the only towntell for BH is him catching scum
Some guy: but I want to lynch BH based on a poor understanding of his meta!!!! wahhh
so in any case let me know if you want to have that conversation, again, with real words, or if this will suffice for you. Lynching me today is a terrible idea. don't do it.
BH did nothing the rest of D1. ANYONE elected mayor should have killed him for it, yet VE killed Skanjab1s when he'd done way more stuff that made him look decent than BH. In fact, after I reread Skan's filter yesterday, I came to the conclusion that he was town. Hence why I tried to get him to do useful things. Notably, VE never actually supported his read on SKan at all and actually just straight up lynched him WITHOUT the analysis he promised he would give.
Needless to say, I am suspicious of VE now. I thought he was town but since the early posting, he has done very little in the way of actually interacting with the thread, plus he posted this:
On November 17 2013 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Everyone should vote for Supersoft. I'm not even joking, he's probably the only chance we have for getting an obviously town (to most everyone) decent analyst up in the role (no offense yamato) if we're for whatever reason having doubts about VE and BC.
Everyone should vote for Supersoft. I'm not even joking, he's probably the only chance we have for getting an obviously town (to most everyone) decent analyst up in the role (no offense yamato) if we're for whatever reason having doubts about VE and BC.
Why would a TOWN VE vote SS for mayor in this situation? VE removed himself from any scrutiny for no reason whatsoever. He did nothing substantive since early D1. I honestly think he lynched Skan because Skan was suspicious of him. Honestly, I would lynch VE tomorrow for how fishy this shit is.
I also don't particularly care for supersoft and how he played D1 either:
On November 17 2013 04:38 supersoft wrote:
----- lol, okay lynch me. I accept it -----
There are people not voting for their favourites, because they don't want to be in the minority. They even say that openly in the thread.
there are people that claim tracker with some comic reference.
There are people who are willing to believe that claim.
there is yamato (Green but completely useless in scumhunting) is leading in votes... FOR A PLACE IN THE OFFICE
there is VE who just refuses to teamplay.
there is rayn and koshi who chat with each other and fill about 5 pages with accusing each other without ANY substance behind the accuses.
there is grackaroni who talks in third person like a retard
there is pandain who is masoned to me and who is obviously scum.
there is Lonemeow who only talks to crazyyamato
there is mig claiming scum with his terrible notes and his more than obvious lack of interst in this game - which can easily be seen, because he doesnt follow up any questions. i ignore his questions intentionally, to test his interest in this game. He probably just forgot about them, because he just doesnt care.
Ah, yes, there is coagulation, who claims randomly medic. I think twice and beside that doesnt post anything reasonable at all.
And then there I am, OBVIOUSLY town, and obviously without any protection n1, so
all in all, it would fit the pattern of this game really nicely if you'd lynch me day1.
----- lol, okay lynch me. I accept it -----
There are people not voting for their favourites, because they don't want to be in the minority. They even say that openly in the thread.
there are people that claim tracker with some comic reference.
There are people who are willing to believe that claim.
there is yamato (Green but completely useless in scumhunting) is leading in votes... FOR A PLACE IN THE OFFICE
there is VE who just refuses to teamplay.
there is rayn and koshi who chat with each other and fill about 5 pages with accusing each other without ANY substance behind the accuses.
there is grackaroni who talks in third person like a retard
there is pandain who is masoned to me and who is obviously scum.
there is Lonemeow who only talks to crazyyamato
there is mig claiming scum with his terrible notes and his more than obvious lack of interst in this game - which can easily be seen, because he doesnt follow up any questions. i ignore his questions intentionally, to test his interest in this game. He probably just forgot about them, because he just doesnt care.
Ah, yes, there is coagulation, who claims randomly medic. I think twice and beside that doesnt post anything reasonable at all.
And then there I am, OBVIOUSLY town, and obviously without any protection n1, so
all in all, it would fit the pattern of this game really nicely if you'd lynch me day1.
This post is horrible. He gives a few reads here and there but it's really just campaigning for mayor the whole time. When asked later, SS doesn't even know who he would lynch if he's mayor, what the fuck? Didn't I tell you guys to pick mayors based on their lynch choices, and NOT on reputation? Yet, as VA pointed out+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 06:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
that was never my reason, I don't see anything particularly good/groundbreaking in his filter, seems like he's sliding by on reputation to put it lightly
that was never my reason, I don't see anything particularly good/groundbreaking in his filter, seems like he's sliding by on reputation to put it lightly
Nor do I like how some people arrived at voting for SS:
On November 17 2013 04:59 Pandain wrote:
Alright you guys now that Yamato can tunnel too long.
VE is okay but he's not the best.
Supersoft can come off as brash but he's also town(anyone disagree, please tell why) and a far better analyzer. I'm masoned with him and think this would be best weapon against scum.
Alright you guys now that Yamato can tunnel too long.
VE is okay but he's not the best.
Supersoft can come off as brash but he's also town(anyone disagree, please tell why) and a far better analyzer. I'm masoned with him and think this would be best weapon against scum.
This is after SS called Pandain mafia for sure (in that post above). Doesn't read weird to anybody? The interaction between these two is weird and so is the mason chat thing between them. Both mention it, but neither one says what they actually talk about in there, they just use it to justify their reads on each other. Fishy, much?
On November 17 2013 04:43 Stutters695 wrote:
SS for mayor imo.
SS for mayor imo.
Out of left field. Not only was this Stutters second(?) post in the game, but I don't think he ever substantiated this.
On November 17 2013 06:52 Sharrant wrote:
Hurray! Supersoft hit the obv town button.
##Vote Supersoft
OOHCHILD is very likely town. Looks exactly like standard Kush town play. ++
My thoughts on Hopeless haven't changed. Lynchable. -
Completely null on Hiro. The fact that his plan was from before the game starts means he's said nothing alignment indicative at all. Can't really glean anything off of his tone either. 0
Storr looks bad but I honestly can't tell if it's new player bad tendencies, or mafia mindset. I'd rank him as slightly scummy, but my gut is telling me that he's a townie that just looks bad. :-\ Would rank him as a - but I'm not certain enough to lynch him.
Rayn: Wanted to lynch him earlier, but he started doing some things that I expect from town Rayn. (The original suspicion was because last time he thought I was scum we had a very long back and forth that exhausted basically all of day 1. This game he went "post looks bad", but he then went on and got into decent fights with a few other people.) I think I'm back on the side of lynching him at this point. --
Coag is completely null, but if I had to guess I'd guess town. 0
I will be here until deadline.
Hurray! Supersoft hit the obv town button.
##Vote Supersoft
OOHCHILD is very likely town. Looks exactly like standard Kush town play. ++
My thoughts on Hopeless haven't changed. Lynchable. -
Completely null on Hiro. The fact that his plan was from before the game starts means he's said nothing alignment indicative at all. Can't really glean anything off of his tone either. 0
Storr looks bad but I honestly can't tell if it's new player bad tendencies, or mafia mindset. I'd rank him as slightly scummy, but my gut is telling me that he's a townie that just looks bad. :-\ Would rank him as a - but I'm not certain enough to lynch him.
Rayn: Wanted to lynch him earlier, but he started doing some things that I expect from town Rayn. (The original suspicion was because last time he thought I was scum we had a very long back and forth that exhausted basically all of day 1. This game he went "post looks bad", but he then went on and got into decent fights with a few other people.) I think I'm back on the side of lynching him at this point. --
Coag is completely null, but if I had to guess I'd guess town. 0
I will be here until deadline.
Sharrant has been floated as possible mafia, and for good reason. He said he'd "be here until deadline", but did little else to contribute. His reads haven't been consistent and he's been really inactive compared to how he usually plays as town.
Needless to say, votes on SS come from shady players doing weird things. I agree with Matt that the wagon came about weirdly and should have not happened, yet it did. It LOOKS LIKE SCUM rallying around their only viable candidate. Shame on all of you for not voting me into office over these two players.
As for SS's posts themselves, there are multiple times when he is asked about reads where he dodges or is subsequently "not sure". He gave that list post above, and then qwhen asked who he would lynch as mayor, he somehow arrives to the conclusion that MOCSTA is mafia. Conveniently, he does this to try to convince grack to vote for him since he sees that grack supports Artanis in thinking Moc is mafia...
Austin (one person I actually no longer find that scummy, since his return to the thread and activity therein) asked this:
On November 17 2013 05:11 austinmcc wrote:
Also super, I know your list includes a couple very low volume/contribution posters. Is cheesecake off the list because you think he's town, or just super duper forgettable and he should actually be on there?
Also super, I know your list includes a couple very low volume/contribution posters. Is cheesecake off the list because you think he's town, or just super duper forgettable and he should actually be on there?
To which super responded:
On November 17 2013 05:15 supersoft wrote:
I don't want to kill someone who doesnt participate at all, these guys can be town or scum you never ever know it for sure.
I know that if i get elected, I have to kill scum, to prevent the inevitable discussion whether I am scum for not killing scum or not.
Yes there are still some of these people on that list, but I am here and I will work on my scumreads until the deadline comes.
I don't want to kill someone who doesnt participate at all, these guys can be town or scum you never ever know it for sure.
I know that if i get elected, I have to kill scum, to prevent the inevitable discussion whether I am scum for not killing scum or not.
Yes there are still some of these people on that list, but I am here and I will work on my scumreads until the deadline comes.
Which seems like bullshit, given that many of his scum reads are on people who are basically not participating at all!
Why do the two elected people look so fucking scummy?
Also, Koshi's bullshit like this:
On November 17 2013 08:29 Koshi wrote:
Va, rayn & yamato scumteam. What do you think?
Va, rayn & yamato scumteam. What do you think?
Makes him mafia. He has given no reason that I am mafia, yet he is accusing me. He seeks to discredit me multiple times in the thread and has posted nothing but drivel since making a "case" on Rayn. Koshi is actually mafia.
Now, I'll read the other ~20 pages and catch up fully.
