EPTTL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 7
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On November 23 2013 19:40 Onegu wrote: I explained my votes I wasnt going to vote for my town reads, and I liked risens response toward deadline, hindsight I should have stayed with it as it lead to the rayn lynch which I had a very heavy town read on rayn. I can understand this ^^^ BC because of basicly my gut. Koshi because his case on rayn was bad and useing reasons he himself has done, and then him calling me out for bs reasons on more than one occasion.[/QUOTE] But I still want you to explain your koshi scumread in greater detail. Hypocrisy + OMGUS does not = scum | ||
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All the things that have been brought up against me are trivial and I'm not even going to bother adressing them. What I am going to do is do my damndest to find scum and convince everyone else to lynch them. Let's start with grackaroni. You can all type "thrawn is scum" over and over but for once, I just want SOMEBODY to FUCKING LISTEN to me about grack. Say whatever the fuck else you want as long as you address the points I'm about to bring up. Lots of people (including rayn which pisses me off more than anyone else) said before BH's lynch that after BH flips they will consider looking into grack if BH flips town. IMO assassin = town because I thinkg BH was giving me his real opinion on grack. Did that happen? No of course not. Am I going to get lynched today and grack will survive? Maybe, but after this post nobody has any excuse to not come back and read it after my flip. GRACK IS MAFIA HERE IS WHY Has anyone had a productive conversation with him the entire game? Has he ever responded to accusations or serious questioning with anything other than deflection via trolling? Why is he getting town points for this? Why do people think he's town because he won't give straight up answers? Here is EXACTLY why he is scum: He alternates between acting "serious" and trollish in a way designed to feign contributing and avoid serious critique. I already know what his response to this post will be. It's gonna be something like "lol thrawn i'm not scum u are or maybe ur bad or who the fuck knows I don't have opinions but that's ok because I'm such obvious town." If I end up getting lynched the MAIN THING I want people to do after is come back and read THIS POST. THIS POST RIGHT HERE I'M TYPING IN ALL CAPS SO IT BURNS INTO YOUR MEMORY AND YOU DON'T FORGET TO COME BACK AND READ THIS POST THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. I have town reads on all of austin/mig/risen, there are a few people I'm undecided about such as pandain/onegu (vayne has sparked my interest and I may mason him to see how he acts outside of the thread... I haven't decided who to mason yet this cycle) and everyone else I honestly haven't paid any attention to at all due to being overwhelmed by playing my first 30+ person size game and on top of that, replacing into it with 100 pages of spam to slog through. I'm going to finally read the entire thread, every damn post, and I'm going to try not to post until I have done so. When I replaced in I decided to just jump right into discussion without reading to try and get a feel for the game but obviously that didn't work. I apoligize to everyone for sucking so bad up till this point but I AM town and I'M NOT going to get lynched. | ||
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On November 24 2013 10:26 VayneAuthority wrote: It's a great reason, as I am free to do whatever I please as long as it is not against the rules. My reads have not even been close to bad this game so ill keep doing what im doing. Thrawn if you want to be seen as town then typing a case on grack does not exactly make me want to defend you. He's not up for lynch until lategame as he has been pushed by both flipped mafia hard so far. There is the possibility he is the mafia guinea pig of course but it's not a particularly good stance for today. what does this even mean? if you think i'm town then you won't lynch me no matter what my reads are "it's not a good stance" as in you think i'm scum for it? as in you still think i'm town but you're just... going to lynch me anyways? | ||
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On November 24 2013 10:32 Grackaroni wrote: There is no case on me to defend Thrawn lol. People keep yelling that I switch on and off between being serious and trolling and that's just what I do. Btw BH was bullshitting all game long. He's played with me countless times and knows better than that. no thrawn there isn't a case against me yes thrawn everything you said about my play is true but no there's no case against me ..... | ||
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On November 15 2013 08:18 Grackaroni wrote: There is only one party and that party is Kush. Come and recognize it's master. ##Vote: Kushm4sta All who oppose him shall be branded an enemy of the state. This is what you did during D1. You trolled around "pushing" the kush for mayor lynch when iirc he didn't even want to be mayor, and in case he was town probably would have been one of the worst mayor candidates. Starting from that post in your filter there are several more afterwards where you talk about wanting kush for mayor but none of it looks like you ACTUALLY want him in that position... it's just trolling. Yamato pressures you to actually do something productive and you respond with this: On November 15 2013 09:32 Grackaroni wrote: Nah, more fun this way. When I find mafia I'll let you know. This is what I'm referring to when I say Grack's trolling is a means of deflection from actually having to contribute. | ||
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On November 24 2013 13:19 austinmcc wrote: I notice you really poked at onegu's votes, which are, indeed, kinda awful. Do you think his play as a WHOLE is scummy? Is the rest of his play townie/null, but the votes are just so bad that he's scummy? I just read through his filter... and no, I don't. There are a few posts in particular that feel really genuine, like this one: On November 18 2013 02:28 Onegu wrote: And I feel I am playing this game better than witchcraft, which is why I feel people who have played with me often should have scum reads on me lol. It looks like an honest assessment of his play coupled with some good awareness of how other people should view him... it looks a lot more like a post that comes from a town mindset than from a scum one. A lot of his filter feels like that. His response to me about his D3 votes was that he wasn't voting on real lynch candidates because he thought all of them were town. It could just be a convenient position he set himself up for but after reading his filter... I don't think that's the case. | ||
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On November 24 2013 15:39 Pandain wrote: Thrawn you should mason me by the way if you want. That or mig. yeah actually I think I may do this | ||
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On November 24 2013 15:36 Grackaroni wrote: You can ask me whatever you would like and I will give you a serious answer. Lets do this. I want 100% srs answers from you from here on out. Let's start with your current read on me because I have no idea what it is. You've made these posts since D4 started... On November 24 2013 09:47 Grackaroni wrote: There is actually an enormous difference between Thrawn's filter in this game and in Witchcraft II which I followed loosely. It doesn't help his case that BC was trying to use my filter in White Flag to incriminate me and never pointed this out. On November 24 2013 10:49 Grackaroni wrote: This part in particular reads really fake to me considering he made like 60 posts in the other game. ... but you have yet to actually say anything along the lines of "lets lynch thrawn" or "I think thrawn is scum and here is my case." So what is your objective with these posts, because it looks like you're just trying to push along my lynch without actually having to be outspoken about it? | ||
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On November 24 2013 15:51 Pandain wrote: Why do you think Risen is town btw? I find his martyring quite un-townlike, and especially unlike a town risen I don't think I've ever played with risen. I do remember hosting GoT where he was town and had an bad game and spent a lot of time going "woe is me" in the thread. On top of that I've seen so many goddamn town-martying on TL lately that I basically consider it a town tell now. Here's what I thought about his play during the D3 lynch: On November 23 2013 08:56 thrawn2112 wrote: I don't want to vote Risen because since I've come back he's been posting nearly the entire time uninterrupted and has made sense throughout all of it. It looks completely unlike what a scum player would be able to do in the last few hours leading up to his lynch. Can you provide links to show what you mean by "I find his martyring quite un-townlike, and especially unlike a town risen? | ||
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On November 24 2013 15:51 Pandain wrote: Thrawn not to be rude, but again you didn't answer my question of do you think its likely that the two scum both had grack and PUSHED grack. ...yeah that's a good point lol On November 24 2013 15:51 Pandain wrote: And if not, even if its possible, if you instead could find someone else as scum. I'm working on this, give me some time. Previously I had suspected both you and Onegu but I changed my mind about ongeu and you've been willing to converse with me in a way that makes me think you're actually trying to figure out my alignment. I'm still in the middle of reading the entire thread and I'll be dropping cases on who I want to lynch after I'm done. | ||
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On November 24 2013 15:55 Grackaroni wrote: I am considering lynching you along with a whole lot of people. There is actually somebody else that I am watching very closely that I don't want to mention yet. I don't like the fact that you were so sure Blazinghand wasn't mafia and that you had me as a scum read for "attacking Blazinghand because he attacked me" I even gave some credit to BH's case because I understood trolling is something that BH would try to do as mafia to avoid suspicion. I attacked BH when he scum claimed to me by making fun of his fake claim breadcrumb. I distrust people who avoid one game while being active in another and your reasons for lynching me are the same as Bloodyc0bblers, yet you still seem to think that is somehow valid. But what is your actual read? Not "I am considering lynching you along with a whole lot of people" because that doesn't say anything about how scummy you think I am compared to anyone else. Am I your top read? Close to that? Give me a definitive answer. | ||
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On November 24 2013 15:30 VayneAuthority wrote: you don't even read the game austin why would I ever any of your shitty questions Why don't you want to talk to your scumread? And on that note what to you think is to be gained by acting the way you have recently? If you really have these reads and want certain people to get lynched then why are you being so uncooperative about it? | ||
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On November 24 2013 16:19 VayneAuthority wrote: because I know it's never going to happen just like every other game. And scum will have to handfeed town the win like they did in ## or town will just kill themselves like usual. So you're still going to maintain this approach? I'm asking you to convince me that you actually have a read on Austin. You're saying "it's not going to happen" and I'm sitting here ASKING you for your opinion. | ||
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On November 24 2013 16:30 VayneAuthority wrote: killed rayn, pushing me, you don't need any more details then that. ........try again? Vayne I don't buy this BS at all. You've taken up this position of "no, I don't need to explain my reads or converse in any meaningful way" and I've been repeadtedly telling you that I WANT to hear your case. I WANT to hear your reasons for your reads because that's the only way I can actually read you. Instead you've thrown up this wall of "nope I am above everything I don't need to play this game" and it looks like pure bullshit. so.... try again? | ||
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On November 24 2013 16:39 Pandain wrote: Thrawn would you be up for lynching Coag? no i don't think so... besides that he's low priority for me atm | ||
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the guy who has a scumread on austin that he refuses to talk about the guy who after refusing to talk about his scumread, votes his town read | ||
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yeah it's probably irresponsible.. but it's never actually caused any harm and it often helps my reads | ||
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Mind explaining to me what you've been trying to accomplish so far this cycle? Are you as confident in your vote as your lack of useful contribution seems to suggest? | ||
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