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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 17 2013 14:17 GMT
#2251
Both of you didn't vote me. So please don't complain. Especially you, OOHCHILD, since you voted VE.
I told you from the beginning, that i want a SS/BC office. If you don't vote us, don't get pissed if VE lynchs suboptimally.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 17 2013 19:04 GMT
#2409
On November 18 2013 04:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
I do not think BC and supersoft are both scum, that was only a 5% chance of occurrence as stated in my filter



lol...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 17 2013 19:59 GMT
#2447
On November 18 2013 04:55 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 04:53 StorrZerg wrote:
On November 17 2013 22:29 supersoft wrote:
BC needs protection tonight.
Medics on BC



isn't this kind of a bad idea if mafia have a Suicide Bomber

if your mafia, seems like a good play to get rid of a strong town, and get rid of docs and w/e else is on bc.


I can't see why you as town would make this kind of a call with a possible Suicide bomber in the game

Maybe this is some meta shit im not aware of, but it seems pretty silly to make this kind of a call..


No because it relies on mafia assuming medics follow supersofts advice which is far from certain.

And that assumption has to be strong enough to losing a mafia member in the hopes of getting two kills


I think I happily sacrifize BC and a Medic for one dead scummer.
We can trade 2 for 1 anytime. Especially in earlygame guys.
Remember, we have no real evidence at the moment. If one scummember dies, this provades an immense amount of information.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 17 2013 21:59 GMT
#2496
yeah okay, i hope they really shoot you, so i dont have to deal with your bullshit anymore.

I stopped reading, when you started making stuff up: I never said people should vote for mayor based on lynchchoices. I always said people should vote based on the townieness and skill of the candidate.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 00:47 GMT
#2704
oh fuck, i just realized i might die tonight, regardless of my two lives :D

I have an issue with Oatsmaster wait! i come up with some stuff i noticed, whe looking through his filter ^_^
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 00:50 GMT
#2708
On November 18 2013 09:47 supersoft wrote:
oh fuck, i just realized i might die tonight, regardless of my two lives :D

I have an issue with Oatsmaster wait! i come up with some stuff i noticed, whe looking through his filter ^_^



First peace of evidence:

On November 15 2013 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 02:27 yamato77 wrote:
My mayor campaign is simple.

If I'm town, I'm the best townie in the game and am obvious choice to lead the D1 lynch.


BloodyC0bbler
VisceraEyes
Mig
Coagulation
supersoft
BlazingHand

I see yamato. I see.


Pregame. Ingame he votes Yamato for no good reason and doesn't partivipate at the discussion!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 00:51 GMT
#2709
On November 18 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 09:47 supersoft wrote:
oh fuck, i just realized i might die tonight, regardless of my two lives :D

I have an issue with Oatsmaster wait! i come up with some stuff i noticed, whe looking through his filter ^_^



First peace of evidence:

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 15 2013 02:27 yamato77 wrote:
My mayor campaign is simple.

If I'm town, I'm the best townie in the game and am obvious choice to lead the D1 lynch.


BloodyC0bbler
VisceraEyes
Mig
Coagulation
supersoft
BlazingHand

I see yamato. I see.


Pregame. Ingame he votes Yamato for no good reason and doesn't partivipate at the discussion!



Second peace of evidence:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Oatsmaster&view=all

one million questions, no follow-ups.
Only oneliners, no opinions on anything.
Questions are mostly pointless.
If he has no serious notes, he's scum
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 00:55 GMT
#2715
On November 18 2013 09:51 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote:
On November 18 2013 09:47 supersoft wrote:
oh fuck, i just realized i might die tonight, regardless of my two lives :D

I have an issue with Oatsmaster wait! i come up with some stuff i noticed, whe looking through his filter ^_^



First peace of evidence:

On November 15 2013 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 15 2013 02:27 yamato77 wrote:
My mayor campaign is simple.

If I'm town, I'm the best townie in the game and am obvious choice to lead the D1 lynch.


BloodyC0bbler
VisceraEyes
Mig
Coagulation
supersoft
BlazingHand

I see yamato. I see.


Pregame. Ingame he votes Yamato for no good reason and doesn't partivipate at the discussion!



Second peace of evidence:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Oatsmaster&view=all

one million questions, no follow-ups.
Only oneliners, no opinions on anything.
Questions are mostly pointless.
If he has no serious notes, he's scum


This line of posts seem extremely fake:
On November 15 2013 21:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
nah yeah I think VE is town.

On November 16 2013 22:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
What super?

How do you tell the difference between town and assassin?
Also explain Mig being scum, Im thinking he is town now actually.

On November 17 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
what the fuck VE.
What the fuck.
I dont think VE cares about lynching scum now.

On November 17 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHICH MEANS HES THE ASSASISN

Also at least 1 mason is scum, we should lynch into the mason pool and all the masons should claim tmr morning with their reads on mason buddies.


WHAT? why does that mean he's assassin? Why doesn't that mean he's scum?
Ah i know why. Because Oats slipped terribly.
VE isn't scum and he knows that!

OATSMASTER is scum!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 00:56 GMT
#2718
On November 18 2013 09:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 09:51 supersoft wrote:
On November 18 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote:
On November 18 2013 09:47 supersoft wrote:
oh fuck, i just realized i might die tonight, regardless of my two lives :D

I have an issue with Oatsmaster wait! i come up with some stuff i noticed, whe looking through his filter ^_^



First peace of evidence:

On November 15 2013 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 15 2013 02:27 yamato77 wrote:
My mayor campaign is simple.

If I'm town, I'm the best townie in the game and am obvious choice to lead the D1 lynch.


BloodyC0bbler
VisceraEyes
Mig
Coagulation
supersoft
BlazingHand

I see yamato. I see.


Pregame. Ingame he votes Yamato for no good reason and doesn't partivipate at the discussion!



Second /piece/ of evidence:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Oatsmaster&view=all

one million questions, no follow-ups.
Only oneliners, no opinions on anything.
Questions are mostly pointless.
If he has no serious notes, he's scum

I have no clue why that throws me off so much but we want world peace, which is a piece of my mind.
Sorry just wanted to note, I understand it is wholly selfish


FUCK!
i knew it something with that spelling was terribly wrong :D
sorry for that piece of evidence obviously!
ebarassing!!! but i am super tired!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 01:00 GMT
#2727
Marv! where is that nightpost!!!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 01:03 GMT
#2738
That's why you elect me as mayor next game!
I see 4 scumKP. right?
Or did someone else shoot sharrant?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 01:12 GMT
#2745
I want to know who killed mocsta and i want to know if anyone shot sharrant accidently.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 01:18 GMT
#2748
I have an issue with Oatsmaster wait! i come up with some stuff i noticed, when looking through his filter ^_^

First piece of evidence:

On November 15 2013 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 02:27 yamato77 wrote:
My mayor campaign is simple.

If I'm town, I'm the best townie in the game and am obvious choice to lead the D1 lynch.


BloodyC0bbler
VisceraEyes
Mig
Coagulation
supersoft
BlazingHand

I see yamato. I see.


Pregame. Ingame he votes Yamato for no good reason and doesn't partivipate at the discussion!


Second piece of evidence:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Oatsmaster&view=all

one million questions, no follow-ups.
Only oneliners, no opinions on anything.
Questions are mostly pointless.
If he has no serious notes, he's scum

Third piece of evidence:

This line of posts seem extremely fake:
On November 15 2013 21:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
nah yeah I think VE is town.

On November 16 2013 22:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
What super?

How do you tell the difference between town and assassin?
Also explain Mig being scum, Im thinking he is town now actually.

On November 17 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
what the fuck VE.
What the fuck.
I dont think VE cares about lynching scum now.

On November 17 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHICH MEANS HES THE ASSASISN

Also at least 1 mason is scum, we should lynch into the mason pool and all the masons should claim tmr morning with their reads on mason buddies.


WHAT? why does that mean he's assassin? Why doesn't that mean he's scum?
Ah i know why. Because Oats slipped terribly.
VE isn't scum and he knows that!

OATSMASTER is scum!

##vote: Oatsmaster
let's get this day started!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 01:20 GMT
#2751
On November 18 2013 10:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
^^

Flip also makes BC look worse imo. BH/BC/Mattchew good targets.


being wrong =/= being scum
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 01:25 GMT
#2755
On November 18 2013 10:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 23:44 Mocsta wrote:
no yam you may be a town read for me, but thats not enough to secure my vote.

BC could be scum, but you aren't even trying to interact with him to develop the read further.
it comes down to asset management.
BC is a highly respected vet. let's entertain you and say he is scum.
there are still 5 others out there, 4 if you include storrzerg.

the risak of losing a town BC far exceeds the gain from losing a scum BC, this early on in my opinion.

instead of standing on the soap box. if you genuinely want votes from people such as myself, you are going to have to work for it.


Mocsta doesn't like people calling BC scum. Or am I cray?


interesting find. Got to think about this! But BC is not an issue d2. We give him at least one or two more days.
I have plenty of other good targets, so he can wait.
Either he happens to be a huge pain in the ass for the scumteam in the following time, or he must be hanged :-(
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 01:26 GMT
#2756
On November 18 2013 10:25 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 10:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 15 2013 23:44 Mocsta wrote:
no yam you may be a town read for me, but thats not enough to secure my vote.

BC could be scum, but you aren't even trying to interact with him to develop the read further.
it comes down to asset management.
BC is a highly respected vet. let's entertain you and say he is scum.
there are still 5 others out there, 4 if you include storrzerg.

the risak of losing a town BC far exceeds the gain from losing a scum BC, this early on in my opinion.

instead of standing on the soap box. if you genuinely want votes from people such as myself, you are going to have to work for it.


Mocsta doesn't like people calling BC scum. Or am I cray?


interesting find. Got to think about this! But BC is not an issue d2. We give him at least one or two more days.
I have plenty of other good targets, so he can wait.
Either he happens to be a huge pain in the ass for the scumteam in the following time, or he must be hanged :-(



Another interesting fact is, that i wanted to kill mocsta. Now we have to look who was there at the time, who didnt unvote me and who tried to convince me not to kill mocsta
....
pandain? ;-)

supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 13:30 GMT
#3043
On November 18 2013 21:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also riddle me this. Why would scum not shoot into them (BH/BC) if they were town? They have no reason to expect BH is not a tracker. They have every reason to expect yamato is docced over BC. Fuck they did not even roleblock BH.


we dont know that. RBs give no notification.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 14:07 GMT
#3067
balancediscussion:

I am not sure, whether marv balances his setups. I talked with a few guys, don't know if marv was one of them about the idea, to make an allvet or an allnewb scumteam and see what happens, since often times people discuss that topic like we're doing right now.
I remember the time when the setups were like that, and like in bureaucrazy-mafia, after wbg/syllo/sandro and I were alsmost sure about each other, we knew Palmar/foolish were scum.
That was just too easy. Lately, I think the setups are more random. I don't think that BC or VE are scum atm. But as I said, regardless what I and you think their alignment is, i think we need to give them another day.
I am rereading BH later and we have to consider Pandain and others who were around at the lynchtime and didn't switch after I said i'd kill mocsta.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 14:12 GMT
#3070
On November 18 2013 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
On April 11 2013 20:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 11 2013 20:10 DarthPunk wrote:
On April 11 2013 20:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 11 2013 19:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
I already said I won't use LR again.

But the game was balanced as fuck, so whateveeeeeeer.


You mean Palmar/Ace/Marv/Sci town?
yeah. balanced.


I think this game proved how little stock to put in ideas like that. Marv was dancing to scums tune and you almost mislynched sciberbia.

Look how much foolishness and Ver did in Personality 2.

I am happy that Dandel Doesn't balance around vets. It's a retarded idea.


The point of this is that our team had very little thread influence(Not activity based, like skill based), like marv HAD to push wrong lynches for us to win. All of us cant spearhead a lynch, we need someone to take our ideas and kill dudes with it.
Which takes a lot of power out scum's hands again, which I didnt like.



yeah oats is completely right here. 3 mafia were dead by the middle of day 3. not even because the mafia themselves individually played badly or anything, but none of them have any thread impact to control things.

Despite mistakes from townies like me and Palmar (wos/sci early, ace/oats) it didn't even matter one bit because there were lots of other townies with good ideas.

This game shows precisely why teams need to be balanced, not the opposite, DP.

After Ego Mini mafia. Discussion closed. Now find scum supersoft and stop talking about shit.


Are you insane? How are you talking to me?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 18 2013 14:17 GMT
#3072
Yes. An Oatslynch is still on the table.
I am going to dig through his former games and I am going to reread BH and dig through his former games.
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