EPTTL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 7
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The Cobbler Mattchew Hopeless1der And here's my list of people I would like to see vigged: Mr. Cheesecake Stutters695 I'm presuming BH will receive the noose today so I'd rather not spend any more energy on that. | ||
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On November 19 2013 05:10 supersoft wrote: I am going to report you. You asked me this TWICE now. TWICE! in only a few minutes. I haven't read any filters yet. I have a life and I don't spend 24 hours in this thread posting oneliners. Your filter is unreadable. Your filter has the length of an average newbiegame. I read my filters yesterday evening for about 2 hours of my valuable time. I came up with mocsta as my final lynchtarget and in the night i read through filters and found Oatsmaster, who i am highly suspicious of. I am creating more useful stuff than anyone else here. I am organising the game. Look what I did at the end of d1. Everyone was analysing and we had a PERFECT town atmosphere. Now look what you did to the thread! It's a MESS! Think about that! please! I am going to read through BH and others. But not when you expect me to. I was the one that actually made the case on Mocsta, don't go taking credit for that. | ||
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On November 19 2013 05:26 supersoft wrote: I didnt read your shit. And you weren't even close to get elected and kill him. So I keep my credit okay? Then you're shit for not reading the thread, and you didn't kill him either unless you were the vigilante which you aren't since you asked who it was so you don't get shit either. Now get the fuck out until you have something useful to say so the people that actually read the game can play. | ||
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Bolded the important part for you. | ||
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On November 19 2013 20:03 Koshi wrote: I was totes referring to that as well. Imagine rayn was right on D1 and even I ignored him. I will have to perform sudoku. Ah okay, I thought you were being silly for a moment. I don't want to reconsider HF, that'd require effort. Please report in  | ||
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On November 19 2013 21:44 Holyflare wrote: Happy? Yes. However, from your list I would rather lynch the Cobbler. | ||
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Presuming both are scum, what would be a bigger loss to a scumteam. Oats or BC? No offense to Oats, but BC has far more potential to influence the thread and to organize scum and come up with a decent plan. If you're equally certain, the Cobbler is the one to push. | ||
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On November 19 2013 22:06 Holyflare wrote: What about the time of masoning? Do you think that is potentially relevant? I think the earlier Mason claims are the most reliable ones since scum had no idea how many masons were out there, and I expect them to have been worried about getting into a situation wherein town starts lynching into masons because of it. I'd be more wary of later mason claims. | ||
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As for your thing about Day 2 QT's, that actually makes sense and I agree with it as long as it's like within 1 minute of the daypost going up. Otherwise I wouldn't put too much value into it. | ||
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On November 20 2013 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: A question for everyone: Does Holyflare's posts in D1 suggest he was doing this? I'd say so, though you were more at the forefront than Mocsta was. | ||
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On November 20 2013 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also why are Mattchew and Hopeless not any more his scumreads? He had strong meta-reasons (which he never explains) to think they were scum, suddenly he has three completely different scumreads. Why? Because Blazinghand is going to get lynched and scum can give out any scumreads they want. He doesn't seem to be thinking BH is scum, because he voted for Oats, and then for BC. He does not try to convince people into lynching in who he thinks is scum. "Blazinghand can die but i don't actually think he is scum so i put my vote on somewhere and i don't even care on which one of those three people". Of course he doesn't fucking care because they are not gonna get lynched. He's not doing anything to lynch scum, again. I presume you believe BH to not be scum then? If BH is and HF is too, he'd want to actually put in effort to steer away the conversation from him. If HF is but BH isn't, then why would he even bother trying to sway the lynch when he can just do nothing and watch as town lynches a nonscum? | ||
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On November 20 2013 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: BH's alignment has nothing to do with this. Anyone who comes in thread now and says "lol just lynch BH kthxbye" should be looked into N2 and later on because if BH is scum everyone voting for him now is not a reason to not play and find other scum. Holyflare seems to be believing BH is town, at least that's what i get from his posts. Is he trying to save BH? Why not, if he thinks he is town? Like if you compare his behavior to thrawn's there is a significant difference. HF just drops his vote on Oats, when asked (why Oats over BC) he says "lol i can vote for BC too" and switches his vote. Does this look like he gives a shit about anything? And because he does not clearly give shit about anything (he knows BH gets lynched no matter what - and does not even try to push any other lynch while thinking BH is not scum) he can give out any reads he wants. If i was scum and knew player X would never get lynched by my effort i could make 1000 cases on X if they were just not good enough to get X lynched. That's what i see HF doing, he is not trying to get anyone lynched. It's just what he did in Hogwarts, bussed to some extent so he was "right" but never really voiced his opinion so that it mattered. I'm not getting from HF's posts that he thinks BH is town, plus he only cased him a few hours ago and the thread's been awfully dead since. Give him some time to try and convince others, no one's challenged him on it yet before he left. I really get the feeling you're tunneling too hard on HF, rayn. | ||
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On November 20 2013 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem is the cases do not make sense. He has apparently dropped his top 3 scumreads (me/Mattchew/Hopeless) and has three new top 3 scumreads. Why? Where is the thought process on those? I see none from his mason chat, i see none from his thread posts. He just "read some filters". I haven't seen any open thought process evolutions from quite a few players, that doesn't mean they don't happen. On November 20 2013 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: The case on Oats is mainly from D1. Why was Oats not his top scumread on D1? Possibly the "filter reading" that you just described earlier. SS's case might've triggered him into reading up on him. | ||
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On November 15 2013 12:47 Mattchew wrote: Yam and mocsta are town but i dont agree with Mocsta's case on Storr. I saw his conclusion, read storrs filter for myself, then read his case, and reconsidered but was not swayed into putting storr anywhere but neutral. Storr is going to play different, because he comes from a different type of mafia. Mocsta sometimes equivocates different to scum Standard scum tactic: Put one scum and one town in the same sentence to make them look townier. Standard scum tactic: Distance yourself from the faulty read of your scumbuddy Standard scum tactic: Give an excuse for why your scumbuddy is wrong that doesn't involve calling him scum Furthermore, Mattchew was masoned with Storr in Hogwarts and should therefore be familiar with his play. He's been utterly useless this game and I'd like to see him hang if we can't come to a consensus on BC. | ||
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