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On November 16 2013 10:31 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 10:28 StorrZerg wrote:On November 16 2013 10:21 austinmcc wrote:VE, pandain stuff coming. On November 16 2013 10:15 StorrZerg wrote:On November 16 2013 02:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 02:05 Skanjab1s wrote:On November 16 2013 02:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 02:01 Skanjab1s wrote:On November 16 2013 01:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
BC would you like to be mayor?
Also what do you think of Skan? Skan atm is a null read for me but he has said some really dumbass shit. Its not alignment indicative but if he keeps it up he will shift from null to red. He is leaning scum on two of my strongest town reads currently for no real reason on either. You should find better townreads then. or you should be less bad? See how this game is played. How about you give me some real scum reads now rather than terrible ones. Says the guy who took a whole page to say that Grack likes to troll. Go read my old game s. You will notice my hatred of trolls is well founded, but I still read their posts as they tend to actually slip up. Trolling is never acceptable and the way he is doing it actively hurts the town. Trolling can still be done in a way that while annoying as shit benefits the town. He has done nothing that is good and all that is bad. Look at the way he does his trolling compared to the positive ways he could and you will notice my read is pretty well founded. This is also pretty convenient to not provide actual scum reads when running for mayor. And when your lynch flips town "well he was trolling so good lynch anyway" becomes acceptable.I can't agree with this storrzerg, do you believe that people who troll help town win the game? If so, how? Do you believe that trolling creates a legible and easy-to-follow thread? If so, how? Should you answer no to those two questions, why is a person who is trolling not a good lynch? Lynch people who you legitimately believe are scum. I also like lynching useless people who in no way can help town. ( i can see trolls being on that list from bc) Previous game i played was Majority lynch, so a big focus from town me was making sure we actually got a lynch off. I ended up pushing a town that i felt was useless and felt mafia. In a game where we have someone to be a mayor, i find those reasons very poor. Specially since a big reason we are going to vote for a mayor is because they are providing good reads and scum hunting. "not claiming to lynch trolls as their scum hunt" Pretend you're not in this game. We just landed on the moon, and we're scooting about in our lunar rover. Also, it has racing stripes. I turn to you and I ask, "Hey, remember that game called mafia? And remember how people trolled in it? Do you think trolling helped town win the game? Do you think trolls created a legible and easy-to-read thread?" We're on the moon, not in this game. You gotta give me truthful Moon Answers.
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We have never played together, but those are FAR from the most "pointless" questions I will ask people this game.
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It's amazing how many pages two players duking it out creates.
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF CAREERS LIMIT ATTACKS AND DEFENSES TO 3 POSTS OR SPOILER YOUR CONFRONTATIONS. THEY REALLY MEAN NOTHING UNTIL WE FEEL LIKE CHECKING IT OUT. FILTER FILTER FILTER! ENOUGH BS INTIMIDATING LAZY TOWN, THIS IS A BIG GAME DONT BE SELFISH SOB OR @SCUM, HAHA I TROLL U BACK STFU NOW
I do this because almost page 100 day one
Here is an example for all the hotheads, press quote and read to see the formatting:
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On November 16 2013 10:17 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 10:11 Koshi wrote:On November 16 2013 10:00 austinmcc wrote:
Koshi, are you around? yes I was going to ask you about rayn/Vayne, after ... whatever that recent game we were all in was. Double Cop Sandwich mafia. But I know you've written a decent bit about rayn. Could you talk a little more here? Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 05:06 Koshi wrote:On November 16 2013 05:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 16 2013 04:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 16 2013 04:32 Koshi wrote:
If I have to name a second name out of the actives it would be rayn. Like if you really really force me to name 1 more. Don't think I will be against his lynch today. I'm glad you named someone without me really really forcing you to. I'd like to know why too though. ctrl + f "Koshi" in rayn his filter. I get mentioned too many times but he doesn't interact with me at all. Except for the "Koshi why do you play so weird". Also, I am not impressed by rayn at all. His case on Holyflare is bad and he is not convincing anybody that Holyflare is scum. I like the point, and I get what you're saying, but is this just a gut feeling that he's talking about you but not with you? Or is this a specific thing that you have picked on in past scum games of his, a scumrayn indicator? Also, you sort of maybe half-jokingly called vayne scum for pointing out you and rayn fighting. But...I put less than zero credence in that point you mentioned. Do you have any actual thoughts on vayne's play so far this game?
It comes down to this. He gave me a slight townread early on and then out of nowhere he goes "Koshi why are you playing so weird" after I made a case on supersoft I think. While we love to scumhunt together and he went from town to scum on me without even trying to talk to me and check me out. I am pretty sure that the easiest way for him to read me is to interact with me. But he refuses to do it except a bit earlier in which he calls me scum... Nha, rayn is scum for me.
Vayne tried to be cute so I was cute as well.
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On November 16 2013 10:29 austinmcc wrote:
VE, assorted Pandain thoughts.
He halfway buddies you pretty hard early on. Defends you as dodgy, calls you a sexy beast, etc. etc. I have not played a D1 with Pandain I don't think, but at least from Magical Cop Sandwich mafia, I do not remember him really buddying up to any townies in that manner as scum. He doesn't appear to actually be winning points with you, nobody has actually been appointed mayor, and while you were vocal and semi-leaderish at the start of the thread, I don't see much cause for him to put that buddying in thread if he's scum. It's too obvious for my tastes?
I think his mason claim is BS. Which is mildly mildly townie, as the real reason to fake claim would be to draw shots and be an asshat because you're going to screw up other mason claims and might encourage other masons to claim if they see Yamato's post and Pandain's post and think Pandain is srs. So apparently I find it mildly townie even though it doesn't actually help town at all and if Pandain wanted to draw shots he should be posting.
He hard defended LoneMeow in that game didn't he? Like, as we were stringing the dude up?
What's even "mildly mildly" townie about him fakeclaiming mason? Even as a townie that's the most ridiculous thing ever, because it's a confirmable role. When he claimed that, people are gonna be like "Who did Pandain mason?" every day he lives until he comes clean = he's almost certainly a mason. The question is whether he's a town mason or a scum mason. We already have another semi-confirmed mason in LoneMeow.
As you said, if he wanted to draw shots he could be posting. He's not doing anything. Apparently not even masoning because apparently he hasn't chosen anyone to mason yet.
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On November 16 2013 10:34 austinmcc wrote:
We have never played together, but those are FAR from the most "pointless" questions I will ask people this game.
i answered your question previously about trolls and where i feel they fit into this game... so yes i find your question regarding trolls and moons pointless. and now we are just cluttering the thread up with more useless crap.
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I think LoneMeow is pretty town, I give him town points(though not defiinitive), for masoning Yamato. Masononing a vet seems like a town thing to do, and he could crumble under pressure against someone as aggressive as yamato
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On November 16 2013 10:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 10:15 StorrZerg wrote:On November 16 2013 02:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 02:05 Skanjab1s wrote:On November 16 2013 02:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 02:01 Skanjab1s wrote:On November 16 2013 01:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
BC would you like to be mayor?
Also what do you think of Skan? Skan atm is a null read for me but he has said some really dumbass shit. Its not alignment indicative but if he keeps it up he will shift from null to red. He is leaning scum on two of my strongest town reads currently for no real reason on either. You should find better townreads then. or you should be less bad? See how this game is played. How about you give me some real scum reads now rather than terrible ones. Says the guy who took a whole page to say that Grack likes to troll. Go read my old game s. You will notice my hatred of trolls is well founded, but I still read their posts as they tend to actually slip up. Trolling is never acceptable and the way he is doing it actively hurts the town. Trolling can still be done in a way that while annoying as shit benefits the town. He has done nothing that is good and all that is bad. Look at the way he does his trolling compared to the positive ways he could and you will notice my read is pretty well founded. This is also pretty convenient to not provide actual scum reads when running for mayor. And when your lynch flips town "well he was trolling so good lynch anyway" becomes acceptable. I can't agree with this How about you look at the other points I made on grack, how about you take a gander at the town grack filter I provided and compare to this game. All you are doing currently is repeating shit others have said and defending yourself. How about some real contribution since youve been gone so long and plan to be absent a ton in the near future
I think there are far better people then a suspicious troll Grack.
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On November 16 2013 10:39 Pandain wrote:
I think LoneMeow is pretty town, I give him town points(though not defiinitive), for masoning Yamato. Masononing a vet seems like a town thing to do, and he could crumble under pressure against someone as aggressive as yamato
This assumes Yamato is applying any pressure to him in mason. Yamato isn't doing much in the thread at the moment, I have to assume he's not doing much in a mason chat either.
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On November 16 2013 10:36 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 10:29 austinmcc wrote:
VE, assorted Pandain thoughts.
He halfway buddies you pretty hard early on. Defends you as dodgy, calls you a sexy beast, etc. etc. I have not played a D1 with Pandain I don't think, but at least from Magical Cop Sandwich mafia, I do not remember him really buddying up to any townies in that manner as scum. He doesn't appear to actually be winning points with you, nobody has actually been appointed mayor, and while you were vocal and semi-leaderish at the start of the thread, I don't see much cause for him to put that buddying in thread if he's scum. It's too obvious for my tastes?
I think his mason claim is BS. Which is mildly mildly townie, as the real reason to fake claim would be to draw shots and be an asshat because you're going to screw up other mason claims and might encourage other masons to claim if they see Yamato's post and Pandain's post and think Pandain is srs. So apparently I find it mildly townie even though it doesn't actually help town at all and if Pandain wanted to draw shots he should be posting.
He hard defended LoneMeow in that game didn't he? Like, as we were stringing the dude up? What's even "mildly mildly" townie about him fakeclaiming mason? Even as a townie that's the most ridiculous thing ever, because it's a confirmable role. When he claimed that, people are gonna be like "Who did Pandain mason?" every day he lives until he comes clean = he's almost certainly a mason. The question is whether he's a town mason or a scum mason. We already have another semi-confirmed mason in LoneMeow. As you said, if he wanted to draw shots he could be posting. He's not doing anything. Apparently not even masoning because apparently he hasn't chosen anyone to mason yet. I have never played with LoneMeow. This is the game where he was scum with Palmar and SnB, with the other scumteam of Solstice/Cheese/ChairMan Ray. COP SANDWICH MAFIA VE, come on.
The mildly mildly townie thing comes from me thinking he's not really a mason. If he's actually a mason, then my reason for assigning mildly townie points (town has SLIGHT reason to fakeclaim mason EXCEPT THAT IT SCREWS OVER EVERYONE ELSE while scum have less/no reason (possibly draw out other claims, but...please dear god people don't be that stupid)).
If you want MORE, or you want him to post on people named NOTGRACK, then coo. That's a good idea for him. But off just what he has, I'm not getting big hints of scumminess.
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On November 16 2013 10:41 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 10:39 Pandain wrote:
I think LoneMeow is pretty town, I give him town points(though not defiinitive), for masoning Yamato. Masononing a vet seems like a town thing to do, and he could crumble under pressure against someone as aggressive as yamato This assumes Yamato is applying any pressure to him in mason. Yamato isn't doing much in the thread at the moment, I have to assume he's not doing much in a mason chat either.
It doesn't matter. The fact he masoned Yamato and the oppurtunity is there either means he doesn't know yamato, he's really confident in himself(anyone have confirmation on this? Wasn't he the guy who claimed doctor and then Mocsta counter-claimed him?), or he's town.
Which do you think is more likely for a person who has played previous games?
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On November 16 2013 10:36 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 10:34 austinmcc wrote:
We have never played together, but those are FAR from the most "pointless" questions I will ask people this game. i answered your question previously about trolls and where i feel they fit into this game... so yes i find your question regarding trolls and moons pointless. and now we are just cluttering the thread up with more useless crap. No. You told me what criteria should be used for lynches, what happened in a past game and how you acted, and upon what a mayor should base his mayoral lynch. (HAHA. NOT GONNA END THAT SENTENCE WITH A PREPOSITION. CAUGHT IT!)
Whereas my questions weren't game-specific. I was asking about trolling in general, and whether you find it to help town or help create a legible thread, and if so, why. I don't care what other people think or how anyone has played in any game, I care what the little storrzerg deep deep down in your heart of hearts thinks about trolls in mafia games.
For reference, here were the answers you gave: + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2013 10:28 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 10:21 austinmcc wrote:VE, pandain stuff coming. On November 16 2013 10:15 StorrZerg wrote:On November 16 2013 02:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 02:05 Skanjab1s wrote:On November 16 2013 02:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 02:01 Skanjab1s wrote:On November 16 2013 01:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
BC would you like to be mayor?
Also what do you think of Skan? Skan atm is a null read for me but he has said some really dumbass shit. Its not alignment indicative but if he keeps it up he will shift from null to red. He is leaning scum on two of my strongest town reads currently for no real reason on either. You should find better townreads then. or you should be less bad? See how this game is played. How about you give me some real scum reads now rather than terrible ones. Says the guy who took a whole page to say that Grack likes to troll. Go read my old game s. You will notice my hatred of trolls is well founded, but I still read their posts as they tend to actually slip up. Trolling is never acceptable and the way he is doing it actively hurts the town. Trolling can still be done in a way that while annoying as shit benefits the town. He has done nothing that is good and all that is bad. Look at the way he does his trolling compared to the positive ways he could and you will notice my read is pretty well founded. This is also pretty convenient to not provide actual scum reads when running for mayor. And when your lynch flips town "well he was trolling so good lynch anyway" becomes acceptable.I can't agree with this storrzerg, do you believe that people who troll help town win the game? If so, how? Do you believe that trolling creates a legible and easy-to-follow thread? If so, how? Should you answer no to those two questions, why is a person who is trolling not a good lynch? Lynch people who you legitimately believe are scum. I also like lynching useless people who in no way can help town. ( i can see trolls being on that list from bc) Previous game i played was Majority lynch, so a big focus from town me was making sure we actually got a lynch off. I ended up pushing a town that i felt was useless and felt mafia. In a game where we have someone to be a mayor, i find those reasons very poor. Specially since a big reason we are going to vote for a mayor is because they are providing good reads and scum hunting. "not claiming to lynch trolls as their scum hunt"
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On November 16 2013 10:45 Alakaslam wrote:
When you say "cop sandwich mafia" do you mean thug life austin Yes! That is the other name for it. I now have it in my head as Cop Sandwich Mafia, and will probably keep referring to it as variants of that name.
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On November 16 2013 10:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 10:17 austinmcc wrote:On November 16 2013 10:11 Koshi wrote:On November 16 2013 10:00 austinmcc wrote:
Koshi, are you around? yes I was going to ask you about rayn/Vayne, after ... whatever that recent game we were all in was. Double Cop Sandwich mafia. But I know you've written a decent bit about rayn. Could you talk a little more here? On November 16 2013 05:06 Koshi wrote:On November 16 2013 05:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 16 2013 04:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 16 2013 04:32 Koshi wrote:
If I have to name a second name out of the actives it would be rayn. Like if you really really force me to name 1 more. Don't think I will be against his lynch today. I'm glad you named someone without me really really forcing you to. I'd like to know why too though. ctrl + f "Koshi" in rayn his filter. I get mentioned too many times but he doesn't interact with me at all. Except for the "Koshi why do you play so weird". Also, I am not impressed by rayn at all. His case on Holyflare is bad and he is not convincing anybody that Holyflare is scum. I like the point, and I get what you're saying, but is this just a gut feeling that he's talking about you but not with you? Or is this a specific thing that you have picked on in past scum games of his, a scumrayn indicator? Also, you sort of maybe half-jokingly called vayne scum for pointing out you and rayn fighting. But...I put less than zero credence in that point you mentioned. Do you have any actual thoughts on vayne's play so far this game? It comes down to this. He gave me a slight townread early on and then out of nowhere he goes "Koshi why are you playing so weird" after I made a case on supersoft I think. While we love to scumhunt together and he went from town to scum on me without even trying to talk to me and check me out. I am pretty sure that the easiest way for him to read me is to interact with me. But he refuses to do it except a bit earlier in which he calls me scum... Nha, rayn is scum for me. Vayne tried to be cute so I was cute as well. Okeedoke, thanks. You had them as their correct alignments in Sandwich Cops in the 21st Century Mafia so I wanted to ask about your reads on them here. Plox to say if they do anything super curious and nobody else sees it.
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@VE did you have a case against me?
also your reads on BC and Mocsta
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On November 16 2013 10:49 StorrZerg wrote:
@VE did you have a case against me?
also your reads on BC and Mocsta
I'm leaning town on Mocsta and I'm pretty firmly town on BC.
No case, just my observations about your play. I feel like you haven't done any scumhunting, in spite of your apparent eagerness to do so - two posts I recall off the top of my head where you're all "Let's find some scum!" or whatever and you never ever try and find any scum.
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On November 16 2013 10:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Triple Cop Claim Caper I prefer not to think about the third claimer that game.
VE, in late exchange for my Pandain thoughts, I would ask you to look at these two points, within the context of when they were written, and tell me if you think anything neat about Onegu just based on these.
On November 16 2013 01:31 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 20:42 supersoft wrote:
pfff always the same with you guys... this is a game. Play your role. Play to win. This isn't a forum to friendly chat with each other. this is mafia, you want to create an uncomfortable situation for scum. Friendly chatting with each other is a situation which is optimal for scum.
Scum has to be afraid to post, because everything will be looked very closely.
If you think it's okay to post things that are completely against your wincondition, you're wrong here and you're playing bad. I disagree with this post all the way. A calm relaxed town is much better than a rattled unhappy town as it interfers with thier ability to think rational thoughts and posts. For super to use this as a reson for his attitude feels scummy, if he just said this is how I play deal with it, I would feel better about him.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 16 2013 02:12 Onegu wrote:Also rayn I dont like how HF doesnt give many hard raeds on his own, but asks people for thier thoughts on them. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:05 Holyflare wrote:fml I had to write this out twice because I had so many tabs open ~_~ @ rayn's post earlier: HereYou claim that my case was in fact bad but then you agree with everything that I had specifically laid out within it, what gives? Did you just not read it? Clearly there were no good reads at that present time and for a mayor to be established reads must be thrown around, which is exactly what I was saying. Your choice of mayor is based entirely off if you agree with their reads? Why? You also debase the entirety of it because of the one line that said if "I failed to lynch my top scum read S". The plurality in reads assumes that one would live past day 1 and be able to use their double voting power as you cannot lynch multiple reads on day 1. There is also: On November 15 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay ignoring Risen for the rest of D1. You were scum partners with risen in heavyweight. You know he is crazy and will literally do anything or write anything to win. How can you be so quick to have a town read on him based off of a post? He has won world champs and also has the "best mafia play" award or whatever. To quite openly say you will not read him for the rest of day 1 is making me apprehensive to say the least. ____________________________________________________________________________ @rest of the town Also some other things that struck me as odd; Hopeless' start to the game: On November 15 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
VE you got some credentials? How many successful mayor campaigns have you run? I've played one game with this guy and in that game (he was town) at the very start he was trying to contribute to current conversations and get things talking. This games start has been very lackluster from him. After asking VE about his past mayor games VE responds that he has been mayor once and he died night 1. By no means are they solid credentials in any terms. His contributions were just useless "won't vote for kush" posts. He then drops his mayor vote onto VE after hearing about his 1 game experience and leaves the thread. _____________________________________________________________________________________ I'm actually leaning a bit more suspiciously towards rayn right now; however I thought it was interesting to see these 2 posts just as I refreshed. + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:05 Risen wrote:
I'll vote anyone who makes their platform lynching rayn. You get modkilled for not voting. :p
What's wrongwith Oats this game? He's like a bit more dick than usually. On November 15 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Oats baby. Read my case again I gave one of stores first posts from Hogwarts. A similar sized game. He came out guns blazing. The analysis was wrong. But more importantly it was there, unlike this game.
Oats, shy are you so prickly this game.
Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous.Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E Obviously no associative tells between unflipped players yada yada but I find it "psychologically intriguing" when people bring up similarities like that. Obviously if you are scum, the posts that stick out to you the most are your scum partners and so you can subconsciously repeat them etc. However, this is a lackluster point to say the least just something I'd thought I'd note. Here he makes a very small point on hopelesses first post. And that his contributions are useless. Then he tells Mattchew he should look into hopeless because he has played with him in Hogwarts Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:54 Holyflare wrote:On November 15 2013 12:54 Mattchew wrote:
VE who shoudl i look at? Hopeless. You played with him in hogwarts. What is your take on him this game? He doesnt add anything. At this point Hopeless filter is very short and no where near a hot button topic so why have mattchew take a closer look at him. Then out of no where comes HF asking the thread about mattchew when HF hasnt talked about mattchew yet. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote:Can someone give me their take on mattchew please? I'm having a hard time untangling his posts. Like.... it's all crap, he even asked on who he should look into and didn't end up doing that but also posts something like: On November 15 2013 12:47 Mattchew wrote:
Yam and mocsta are town but i dont agree with Mocsta's case on Storr. I saw his conclusion, read storrs filter for myself, then read his case, and reconsidered but was not swayed into putting storr anywhere but neutral. Storr is going to play different, because he comes from a different type of mafia. Mocsta sometimes equivocates different to scum . Mattchew, what is your take on hopeless and rayn? I know you've now played with both because of hogwarts so what is your view on them at this present time? ________________________________________________________ For everyone else, much like grack, mattchew came out of the woodwork to post a point relating to mocsta/storr and apart from that has really added nothing. His other "content" is just calling people town etc. He makes the effort to "read" the filter of one player but has no evidence of that for any other player, despite many being mentioned in the game. Would you be comfortable lynching this way, because I would. Then again he asks Mattchew for his thoughts on hopeless which he only talked about one time, and rayn. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 14:37 Holyflare wrote:On November 15 2013 14:35 Alakaslam wrote:he has taken up the position as the leader of RNG lynches ever since the downfall of Palmar. Now quit changing the subject you silly Alaskan lamb; where can we find this scum remover and can you be more flexible on price? You can get it from deep CHUPAZI, I am not sure what they would charge I troll no further albeit tempting Not actually sure if I can deliver on that promise Your take on mattchew please? Also I want to hear more opinions on rayn, don't want to let him pass unchecked. He hasnt added anything to the discussion but continues to just ask peoples opinion. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 14:20 Holyflare wrote:
What does scum matt look like then? Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 15:00 Holyflare wrote:
Either way, he isn't here and I've linked all that needs to be linked. What do you think of rayn so far. I know you had some back and forths last game. Has your read on him improved because of hogwarts or not? Without adding anything to the discussion he tries to look active by just asking questions.
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