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On November 21 2013 07:48 austinmcc wrote:Hey thrawn! Can you talk to me/us about your BC read?
ask me every question you can think of regarding all things BC and i will promise that I will give you my exhaustive analysis tomorrow
i got stuff to do + this game is annoying me so much i don't want to put any more thought into it atm
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hey whats going on? what's happened in the last ~ 50 pages?
and can someone kindly tell me who all has been calling me mafia recently?
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On November 23 2013 07:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 07:03 thrawn2112 wrote: hey whats going on? what's happened in the last ~ 50 pages?
and can someone kindly tell me who all has been calling me mafia recently? Nobody except some guy. I know rayn is scum. Can you sheep me this game?
have you read our qt logs in their entirety? i'm deferring to my instincts here, especially after my BH mason experience. but please explain your reasoning, I am intrigued
On November 23 2013 07:04 Mig wrote: Hey thrawn can you explain why you have been awol completely from this game yet continue to post in your other game?
it's a combination of losing interest and special tactics
Give me a bit to catch up.
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Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now?
On November 23 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote:
There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me?
Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn
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BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive.
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On November 23 2013 08:09 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote:Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now? On November 23 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote:
There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me? Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn I also haven't done anything, doesn't mean I'm scum. You were extremely good day two when you replaced in and there's little reason to assume your scum in my eyes
But you didn't start doubting my alignment during this cycle? Ever? You didn't even answer the question, I'm trying to figure out what your thought process has been.
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On November 23 2013 08:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote:Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now? On November 23 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote:
There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me? Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn Can you just sheep me and love me afterwards?
koshi i would love nothing more than to sheep you because I have 0 idea who else to vote for but I just don't find your points convincing. pretty much everything you're descridbing as points against him are things I attribute to town rayn's play
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On November 23 2013 08:18 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 23 2013 08:09 Pandain wrote:On November 23 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote:Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now? On November 23 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote:
There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me? Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn I also haven't done anything, doesn't mean I'm scum. You were extremely good day two when you replaced in and there's little reason to assume your scum in my eyes But you didn't start doubting my alignment during this cycle? Ever? You didn't even answer the question, I'm trying to figure out what your thought process has been. No there's bigger people to fry then a person who started being less townie then he was day two
that is not the issue...
I don't have a problem with you deciding "maybe I'll just ignore him for now." My problem is that you never once thought "hmm maybe this afk guy isn't as townie as i thought" regardless of who you decide to vote for.
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goddammit lol i'm not nearly scummy enough... plan failed
AUUUSTINNNN you're like confm town to me wtf should I do? I don't want to vote Risen because since I've come back he's been posting nearly the entire time uninterrupted and has made sense throughout all of it. It looks completely unlike what a scum player would be able to do in the last few hours leading up to his lynch.
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On November 23 2013 08:59 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 08:56 thrawn2112 wrote: goddammit lol i'm not nearly scummy enough... plan failed
AUUUSTINNNN you're like confm town to me wtf should I do? I don't want to vote Risen because since I've come back he's been posting nearly the entire time uninterrupted and has made sense throughout all of it. It looks completely unlike what a scum player would be able to do in the last few hours leading up to his lynch. Why am I confirmed town now? Also, on a more serious note if you're town. OH MAN LOOK AT THAT YOU JUST POSTED SORT OF A READ ON A PLAYER UP FOR LYNCH WITH A JUSTIFICATION THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT YOU SHOULD DO WHEN YOU DECIDE WHO TO LYNCH. You have now removed Risen from your possible voting options. If you look at BC, ss, oats, maybe a little rayn and a little of koshi's stuff on rayn, I bet you can totally get through a couple of those people and find reasons to vote or not vote them and then put that in the thread and vote accordingly. 
I completely disagree with what koshi is saying about rayn. BC.... I just don't fucking know, I was really convinced by his D2 angry posts and I've liked him for being on this same page as me during that time.. but after I came back from afk he was the first person I read and his latest posts (conversations with Mig) are completely different in tone to the posts that I liked him so much for earlier. I want him to answer this before I decide:
On November 23 2013 08:00 thrawn2112 wrote: BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive.
I haven't looked at oats/ss yet so I'll do that in the meantime
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On November 23 2013 09:07 austinmcc wrote: (You should also say why I'm confirmed town to you)
It was how you reacted during the latest resolution period and some other things I talked to rayn about in our mason logs. I pay very close attention to people's reads on me and I can completely see where a town you would be coming from.
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BC please get in here and answer me
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BC respond to my questions! Please!
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On November 23 2013 09:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Which questions thrawn?
On November 23 2013 08:00 thrawn2112 wrote: BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive.
you do sorta the same thing to mig in your read list
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On November 23 2013 09:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 09:33 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 23 2013 09:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Which questions thrawn? On November 23 2013 08:00 thrawn2112 wrote: BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive. you do sorta the same thing to mig in your read list My read on mig is that he has played a game that imo doesn't correspond with how he claims to play. Albeit I think my read of him is far less solid then it once was which is why he is now so far town on my scum list. He should be offed only after the first 4 + oats. Simple. I harassed him on his night actions, and i wasn't satisfied with the results, but at the same time the way he has played over this day cycle has been really solid aside from those interactions. I think his night actions are suspect, I dont like how he responded, I also don't like that he isn't being a more vocal and active voice in the game. Overall hes way too passive for what I know he can do and should be doing.
..... but what's your read on him?
"My read on mig is that he has played a game that imo doesn't correspond with how he claims to play."
Idk what alignment that is
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On November 23 2013 14:28 Onegu wrote: So I can tottally see a scum Koshi pushing for a town rayn lynch so he can go post game I got you because of thier history, and because of this he makes sure austin hammers him.
HF you bus as scum, yes the situation was different but that doesnt change the fact that YOU CALLED ME SCUM DAY 1 WHEN WE STILL HAD 6 SCUMMERS IN HOGWARTS.
/dunked
Talk to me about your koshi read. The part I bolded is just ridiculous reasoning.
You have been townreading and buddying rayn so why did you not speak up for him at all when he was getting lynched?
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On November 23 2013 14:45 Onegu wrote: I did. And that resoning isnt bad its something scum koshi would do to town rayn.
I still want you to walk me through your koshi read. I looked through your filter and up until page 6 you aren't calling him scum. Then on page 6 there's this:
On November 23 2013 02:27 Onegu wrote: Koshi rayn just fliped b2b mafia you should check his filter there and compare to this game. He does the same things, changes his reads, sees scumslips, votes other than his scumslips. Im certain rayn is town.
Im still reading but you wanting to lynch VA was terribad, id believe you were scum before rayn.
Also this game gives me a headache for some reason.
On November 23 2013 02:42 Onegu wrote: Koshi calling me out for not posting here much is BS also, it was N2 here and I am VT while it was D1 there I wonder where someone is going to post more? Hrmmm.... And then I had irl stuff and didnt post in either game. I am going to vote koshi as one of my votes I think.
You start off by talking to him about rayn, telling koshi to compare meta etc. Then you go "id believe you were scum before rayn" but don't explain why. In your very next post you OMGUS koshi for calling you out for activitey... and then decide you're going to vote him? Where did your koshi read come from, because up until these posts you had been talking to him in a cooperative way, as if you thought he was town.
And can you explain the purpose of both of your final votes? BOTH of your votes are on candidates with 1 or 0 votes. Why were you throwing away your votes?
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I also want to you to give a better explanation of your read on BC. You hardly ever talk about him in your pre lynch posts. This most recent thing I could find was this:
On November 23 2013 03:32 Onegu wrote: Im caught up and I swear this is the biggest clusterfuck game I have been in. So many lies, fakeclaims, BS arguements about irrelevant stuff. Look I had irl stuff had havent posted in either game for the last 20 hours or so. I somehow keep getting the feeling that BC and Mig are town, I believe Migs claim and shot, but I kinda like BCs posts in the last day. I also agree with him on a few things. So you wanted my list but I have to add a null section because a few people I just cant read atm.
Very townie: Rayn, VA, Slam Leaning town. BC, Mig, thrawn, Mr. CC, LM Null: Coag, Hopeless, pandain, oats, SS Leaning Scum: Grack, risen Very Scum: Austin, Koshi, HF
##VOTE:KOSHI ##VOTE:HOLYFLARE
"I somehow keep getting the feeling that BC and Mig are town..."
This is all you had to say about the main lynch candidate? That you think he might be town... but you're not going to go to any efforts to explain why and try to save your townread?
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Onegu is scum!
On November 23 2013 03:32 Onegu wrote: Im caught up and I swear this is the biggest clusterfuck game I have been in. So many lies, fakeclaims, BS arguements about irrelevant stuff. Look I had irl stuff had havent posted in either game for the last 20 hours or so. I somehow keep getting the feeling that BC and Mig are town, I believe Migs claim and shot, but I kinda like BCs posts in the last day. I also agree with him on a few things. So you wanted my list but I have to add a null section because a few people I just cant read atm.
Very townie: Rayn, VA, Slam Leaning town. BC, Mig, thrawn, Mr. CC, LM Null: Coag, Hopeless, pandain, oats, SS Leaning Scum: Grack, risen Very Scum: Austin, Koshi, HF
##VOTE:KOSHI ##VOTE:HOLYFLARE
Look at his reads list... he has the two lynch candidates as town... but how much effort does he put into trying to save them? Close to none with rayn (who only got lynched because of BC but he was still a person people wanted to kill) and absolutely none with BC. After not trying to save his town reads... he completely throws away his votes.
On November 23 2013 10:02 marvellosity wrote: Holyflare (1): Onegu, Risen
austinmcc (1): Onegu
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Hopeless what's up with you? I don't think I've ever seen town you get this angry or aggressive.
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