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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 16 2013 23:39 GMT
#2018
Koshi what was the point of your votes
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 16 2013 23:46 GMT
#2020
I think Vayne is scum he's playing like ##. Bad reasons for not voting SS or BC
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 16 2013 23:50 GMT
#2024
I think the fact VE took his vote off himself also might say he's less confident in his reads which is fine. Don't vote someone who doesn't think he should be mayor
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#2029
Austin who are you going to change your vote to
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 00:00 GMT
#2031
Grack please trust me SS is town and a really good analyzer. If you are town he will realize it and you probably won't get lynched anyway
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 00:04 GMT
#2034
On November 17 2013 08:50 Pandain wrote:
I think the fact VE took his vote off himself also might say he's less confident in his reads which is fine. Don't vote someone who doesn't think he should be mayor


Kosh what about this
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 00:13 GMT
#2040
Yeah because it's not only this lynch. It's future lynches since mayor gets double vote. Also they can live longer due to vest. I think it's pretty simple to see VE would rather see a SS mayor and so I'm pretty surprised you would still vote for him
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:00 GMT
#2083
I have town read on moc
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:00 GMT
#2084
My town reads are usually right idk if that helps
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:01 GMT
#2086
Like does scum actually make a hunt for vs hunt argument? Idk if you've played with moc but he does this plenty
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:09 GMT
#2104
On November 17 2013 10:02 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:00 Pandain wrote:
My town reads are usually right idk if that helps


Which posts give you that impression? We have 15 minutes until I probably have to decide. I doubt that VE shows up and even if he shows up, i guess he'll consider mocsta, too...


Town reads are the only thing I'm comfortable with. In previous games whenever I thought someone was town I was usually right. It's the people I'm not sure about vs. scum who I have a problem with, almost never with who is town.
See Clarity_NL in a previous game .
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:10 GMT
#2107
Like that I was right about Skanjabs thanks everyone
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:11 GMT
#2110
Please refer them to me.

I wasn't absolutely sure but I didn't think a scum player would play like that.

And yes, I got quite good at evaluating who is town and simply who is suspicious by being scum three times in a row. Unfortunately that doesn't hold true for suspicious into scum.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:20 GMT
#2116
I still think Storrzerg is suspicious, I simply found others who I might be more confident in. Namely Vayne and Rayn and BH.

Yes I do think he would. That's the worst thing and why I favor a Rayn lynch first. However even though I think he would do it as town I find it distinctly anti-town as it would motivate trackers to counter-claim. That is what I'm caught up on and he never addressed it.

Mocsta in my previous games I think he's always been town. I don't know what his scum play would look like but it's not this. To be frank, bad reads with a lot of effort with weird arguments are making me think he's town. This is what he's done in previous games. Scum try to hide from doing obvious bad arguments and the Mocsta post was unforced and bad. All this is making me think he's town. And yes the effort does help him though I don't think he couldn't do it as scum.

That was my first thought. re-reading him his non-analysis cases make me lean towards scum, especially this post
On November 15 2013 23:55 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 15 2013 23:51 Mocsta wrote:
On November 15 2013 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean:
the risak of losing a town BC far exceeds the gain from losing a scum BC, this early on in my opinion.

this is pretty bad..
BC could be scum, but you aren't even trying to interact with him to develop the read further.
it comes down to asset management.
BC is a highly respected vet. let's entertain you and say he is scum.
there are still 5 others out there, 4 if you include storrzerg.

...but this is pretty good.

???
a day1 town BC loss is a massive win for scum.

if he is scum and lynched. course its a good win fie town, but the team still has 5 members and can continue as before.

I think in this scenario, the benefit of a town vet outweighs a scum vet.
its why people say leave marv and palmar to day 2 or 3 regardless of performance.
BC fits into that grouping.

It's bad because we lynch BC if he is scum and we don't lynch him if he is town.
The argument of weighing the pros and cons of lynching him is nonsense.

there's a difference thinking someone is scum and wanting to lynch them.

I'm not going to say anything else on the matter.

we can agree to disagree.


but I definitely don't think he would have been a good lynch today or a good lynch tomorrow. I don't think he'll ever buss much because if he does he'll be alone by the end and a sole scum Mocsta should be easy to find anyway.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:20 GMT
#2118
On November 17 2013 10:17 Blazinghand wrote:
it was Fine time to claim


hey welcome after the lynch
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:22 GMT
#2120
On November 17 2013 10:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
actually a pretty good lynch, LM should be heavily scrutinized at this point. I don't think pandain would actually call me scum if he was scum since it just looks so irrational. It would really be a stretch.

Also btw, if history tells us anything, one of the people in power are scum


I heavily doubt it unless scum went balls to the walls and voted for their scum mate. That means one of their members has to be one of the towniest looking people in Yam, VE, or SS. So your argument relies on the fact that one of the towniest members is not townie because scum had to try for mayor which isn't true at all.

In fact that's why I'm suspicious of those who didn't vote SS because I do believe him to be the best analyzer .
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:23 GMT
#2123
Oh shut up it was 6 hours before mayor election
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:23 GMT
#2124
Well then your history can't be relied on because it would force us to view those we feel as townie as less then townie because of previous precedents.

aka we shouldn't rely on it.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:26 GMT
#2130
On November 17 2013 10:26 Grackaroni wrote:
@pandain: I'm just confused with what you actually believe about Storrzerg. First you said that him using the newb card was scummy and then you said that he's probably not scum because scum wouldn't try to run for mayor and use the newb card like he did.

Did he keep using it after people called him out for it or is there something else I am missing?


No I thought he was more scummy for using the newb card while running for mayor
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 01:36 GMT
#2135
I don't think so honestly.

My only reason to lynch him would be set-up wise and that never ends up well. Four masons and I would reconsider. But scum masons probably won't even use their powers to be honest because then it will force a lynch.
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