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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 18:13 GMT
#1047
Hell even Holyflare ran off when shit got real.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 18:13 GMT
#1048
On November 16 2013 03:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That's nice Hopeless, but who is scum? The Rayn/Risen thing, Rayn said he'd ignore Risen for D1 and HF extrapolated from that that Rayn considered Risen town. It's not an unreasonable extrapolation and I don't think it's that important.

That's not my point which you should know if you read the case.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 18:19 GMT
#1051
On November 16 2013 03:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That's nice Hopeless, but who is scum? The Rayn/Risen thing, Rayn said he'd ignore Risen for D1 and HF extrapolated from that that Rayn considered Risen town. It's not an unreasonable extrapolation and I don't think it's that important.

That's not my point which you should know if you read the case.

It was one of your points, and it's the point Hopeless brought up, or do you mean that Risen kept bringing it up after you clarified it? I can't make that out from your paragraph.

No my point was this:
- I never called Risen town.
- People thought i did, that's fine, and questioned me about it
- I told why i said what i did
- People understood

Holyflare STILL says i did call him town and then "corrected" myself which is not the case at all. He should know that if he has read my posts, which he should have done because it was one of his reasons to call me scum for.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 18:26 GMT
#1056
On November 16 2013 03:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Ah, I presume you're alluding to this post.
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 00:42 Holyflare wrote:
On November 16 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You were implying i was scum earlier. I don't even know why because you never really told me.


I made a whole post on you, it's not my fault if you haven't read it. About 3 people have copied it since then so it's no excuse. You disregarded risen after 1 post and called him town for NO reason (you have rectified this since then) and called my post bad (lol) because you misread what I intended. You jumped over me on a campaign that was better than the other campaigns currently put out which seemed irrational and scum raynish but you have backed off since then and started to develop other reads etc.

Do you see a scum motivation for doing this though? It's guaranteed that he'll get called out on it by you, and he's already backing off and not trying to get you lynched anymore. It seems more like an oversight from a town player whom is trying to explain why he originally voted for you. I don't see how it's beneficial for scum to keep saying you called Risen town when it's been proven factually incorrect. There's no benefit to it.

The point is he is not even reading my posts regarding Risen and that's one of his reasons why he called me scum for.
Would you not read your scumreads posts on something you called him scum for?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 18:27 GMT
#1057
And he can't get me lynched. Because i will not get lynched when i am town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 18:32 GMT
#1061
Pandain and supersoft could you comment on my case on HF?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 18:34 GMT
#1063
On November 16 2013 03:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Ah, I presume you're alluding to this post.
On November 16 2013 00:42 Holyflare wrote:
On November 16 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You were implying i was scum earlier. I don't even know why because you never really told me.


I made a whole post on you, it's not my fault if you haven't read it. About 3 people have copied it since then so it's no excuse. You disregarded risen after 1 post and called him town for NO reason (you have rectified this since then) and called my post bad (lol) because you misread what I intended. You jumped over me on a campaign that was better than the other campaigns currently put out which seemed irrational and scum raynish but you have backed off since then and started to develop other reads etc.

Do you see a scum motivation for doing this though? It's guaranteed that he'll get called out on it by you, and he's already backing off and not trying to get you lynched anymore. It seems more like an oversight from a town player whom is trying to explain why he originally voted for you. I don't see how it's beneficial for scum to keep saying you called Risen town when it's been proven factually incorrect. There's no benefit to it.

The point is he is not even reading my posts regarding Risen and that's one of his reasons why he called me scum for.
Would you not read your scumreads posts on something you called him scum for?

It's happened to me before. Sometimes one gets lazy. A main reason I'm defending him in any case is because I've been able to follow his thought process in how he became suspicious of you and of how he dropped that suspicion since I had the same evolution in reads with similar reasoning. Given you consider HF scum, do you consider me scum as well?

No. You are willing to discuss things with me and being reasonable.
Also the Risen point was not the only thing i consider Holyflare scum for.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 18:37 GMT
#1067
You say you are ignoring an unflipped player for the entirety of day 1 = I think he is town.

Totally incorrect. You are still stubborn and will not go back and read what i said. You can't use that as an argument. You need to call me a liar if you are saying this because i am saying the opposite. Am i a liar? This reminds me of you arguing with syllogism in Hogwarts.

Other people have also clearly commented on grack than just BC yet you're all over BC for sharing your sentiment. I also pointed out several of his posts earlier but that for some reason has no weight whatsoever on your theory. Does this now change your read on grack?

The best case in thread is on you, not on Grack.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 18:41 GMT
#1070
On November 16 2013 03:39 Holyflare wrote:
Dude I'm not even arguing? I'm explaining my thought process to you o.o?

Then why are you not saying "i was wrong" or "you are making shit up"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 18:41 GMT
#1072
Because those are the only answers possible. You have made fucking 10 posts about that. It's a waste of time and you are just flip-flopping around.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 18:42 GMT
#1073
On November 16 2013 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
I misunderstood what you implied by saying you were ignoring him and thus it looked suspicious so I had a scum read on you, you then explain the risen points further and move onto other people, something i equivocate to town rayn and so my read on you becomes unscummy? I'm not understanding you or vice versa if this isn't getting through.

Okay, so why did you then bringthe issue up in 100 words when i had explained myself already?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 18:56 GMT
#1079
On November 16 2013 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 03:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
I misunderstood what you implied by saying you were ignoring him and thus it looked suspicious so I had a scum read on you, you then explain the risen points further and move onto other people, something i equivocate to town rayn and so my read on you becomes unscummy? I'm not understanding you or vice versa if this isn't getting through.

Okay, so why did you then bringthe issue up in 100 words when i had explained myself already?


Because i called you scummy and a few others, namely mocsta, risen, artanis etc were on that sentiment. I outlined my thought process to the thread to show that over time my read on you has actually changed because i actually have analysed your games to see your playstyles. Your few posts recently are very world championshipesque though.

So how does the thread sentiment affect your posting? If other people call me scum too why does that mean you need to over-explain yourself? Also how are my last posts world championshipesque?

Also could you answer my points 2 and 3 in my case?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 18:59 GMT
#1080
When has Mocsta called me scum? I have clearly missed something.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 19:13 GMT
#1082
That's pretty bad defense Holyflare.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 19:40 GMT
#1090
vayne gets added to the town club. vayne how does koshi look?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 19:42 GMT
#1092
Mistrust and Vayneness <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 19:47 GMT
#1094
Koshi is probably scum therefore he does not know what to say.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 19:56 GMT
#1100
On November 16 2013 04:50 supersoft wrote:
you two guys formed a hydra in hogwarts. What does koshi do as townie. How does he scumhunt?

Like people usually do.. idk, finds posts that make no sense and calls people out for them.

The thing is he is (as town) really outgoing and happy making jokes and interacting with people asking their opinions and calling people out early on and listening people he finds strong. Here he is restricted, insecure and... scared. That's what i sense from his posts atm. He's not giving strong opinions and taking stances.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 19:57 GMT
#1101
On November 16 2013 04:53 Koshi wrote:
Also, I have it always a bit harder in the start of a game. Especially big games.

lol in Aperture you were like confirmed town at this point of the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 15 2013 20:20 GMT
#1120
supersoft i am more experienced.
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