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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 28 2013 02:48 GMT
#6941
On November 28 2013 11:44 Holyflare wrote:
With in-depth reasoning, why what they did was scummy at x point in time, etc etc.

You're not going to get it. If you do get it, it will be right before I'm lynched. I'm driving to Vegas to visit with my sister and then it's Thanksgiving. I've already given up on being alive this game (see yesterday) I don't know why you think I'm going to put in that much effort when everyone else hasn't all day. You're the only one who actually made a case HF.

"Oh but you're the one up for lynch Risen!" Yeah, I don't give a shit.

PYP GET HYPE
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 28 2013 02:50 GMT
#6942
On November 28 2013 11:46 Pandain wrote:
I want to hear from Vayne why he thinks oats is town because he called him one of the townie at people in the game.


me and oats are on the scumteam so im hard defending him

[image loading]
I come in for the scraps
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 28 2013 02:50 GMT
#6943
On November 28 2013 11:45 Pandain wrote:
Stop talking to risen and focus on other things

Cmon man, I had you as not bold black :<

On November 28 2013 11:46 Pandain wrote:
I want to hear from Vayne why he thinks oats is town because he called him one of the townie at people in the game.

Yes, let's do that instead of actually do anything ourselves. Yes, YES, BRILLIANT!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 28 2013 02:51 GMT
#6944
Lol stop I value your opinions even if I disagree with them sometimes
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 28 2013 02:51 GMT
#6945
On November 28 2013 11:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 11:46 Pandain wrote:
I want to hear from Vayne why he thinks oats is town because he called him one of the townie at people in the game.


me and oats are on the scumteam so im hard defending him

[image loading]

Scum claim omg! Let's fill the thread with troll shit and create mass chaos so the discussion people are having with Risen gets swallowed CHOO CHOO!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2013 03:22 GMT
#6946
Are people still around to discuss some things with me?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 28 2013 03:28 GMT
#6947
sup holy
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2013 03:31 GMT
#6948
Chat with me about onegu if you don't mind, what are your thoughts?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 28 2013 03:34 GMT
#6949
I feel like Onegu only played the game Day 1-2. When scum started getting lynched he has kinda fallen off the face of the planet. I know that he had a townread on BC, and never really discussed him much. I don't think he said anything significant about Thrawn either. Early on he did this giant +1 to Rayns case against Holyflare which I found horrible. His reads also haven't changed or developed throughout the game, he seems stuck on HF scum but doesn't even care about pushing that read. His filter feels generally scummy, and I don't like him.

What have flipped scum said about him?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 28 2013 03:38 GMT
#6950
Onegu was on BC's null list. Hmm.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2013 03:44 GMT
#6951
BC's filter;
On November 17 2013 07:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 03:13 Onegu wrote:
I actually thought BC was slightly townie. His posts about mayor were very townie IMO. There are a few points I am going to bring up and he should answer though. First after people bring up that storrzerg has played in recent newbies he kept attacking people who called storr a newb, I thought he was a bit agressive in doing so but not in a scummy way.

@BC what is the difference between grack trolling and supersoft trolling? And who else is scum besides storr and grack?

I still have to go over his filter but what I remember from just reading thread SS was uber agressive and trolling.


Gracks trolling is doing absolutely no good to anyone this game. it isn't done in any helpful manner (which trolling can be done in). Give that his activity only really spiked when pressured then he vanished into the wind to not appear and contribute it screams fucking scum.

Compare to SS (as you can see his behaviour in the last few hours) has been done to poke and prod people to get responses out of them to get reads. Everything he has done has had purpose behind it that all imo come down to town motivated reasons.




only post in regards to onegu, ever and it doesn't even attack him. His big post that I mentioned in my case on coag also does not mention onegu at all! Null on his mega list!


Mocsta's filter:

On November 12 2013 17:56 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 16:05 Onegu wrote:
Im going to go for a 22 page filter as either alignmemt this game. See how it goes.

Chortle


Only mention of onegu in pre-game, none in game at all!

Thrawns filter:
On November 23 2013 14:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 14:28 Onegu wrote:
So I can tottally see a scum Koshi pushing for a town rayn lynch so he can go post game I got you because of thier history, and because of this he makes sure austin hammers him.

HF you bus as scum, yes the situation was different but that doesnt change the fact that YOU CALLED ME SCUM DAY 1 WHEN WE STILL HAD 6 SCUMMERS IN HOGWARTS.

/dunked


Talk to me about your koshi read. The part I bolded is just ridiculous reasoning.

You have been townreading and buddying rayn so why did you not speak up for him at all when he was getting lynched?

On November 23 2013 15:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
I also want to you to give a better explanation of your read on BC. You hardly ever talk about him in your pre lynch posts. This most recent thing I could find was this:

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 03:32 Onegu wrote:
Im caught up and I swear this is the biggest clusterfuck game I have been in. So many lies, fakeclaims, BS arguements about irrelevant stuff. Look I had irl stuff had havent posted in either game for the last 20 hours or so. I somehow keep getting the feeling that BC and Mig are town, I believe Migs claim and shot, but I kinda like BCs posts in the last day. I also agree with him on a few things. So you wanted my list but I have to add a null section because a few people I just cant read atm.

Very townie: Rayn, VA, Slam
Leaning town. BC, Mig, thrawn, Mr. CC, LM
Null: Coag, Hopeless, pandain, oats, SS
Leaning Scum: Grack, risen
Very Scum: Austin, Koshi, HF

##VOTE:KOSHI
##VOTE:HOLYFLARE


"I somehow keep getting the feeling that BC and Mig are town..."

This is all you had to say about the main lynch candidate? That you think he might be town... but you're not going to go to any efforts to explain why and try to save your townread?

Thrawn brings up good points against onegu (lol)!





here is where he calls onegu scum:

On November 23 2013 15:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
Onegu is scum!

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 03:32 Onegu wrote:
Im caught up and I swear this is the biggest clusterfuck game I have been in. So many lies, fakeclaims, BS arguements about irrelevant stuff. Look I had irl stuff had havent posted in either game for the last 20 hours or so. I somehow keep getting the feeling that BC and Mig are town, I believe Migs claim and shot, but I kinda like BCs posts in the last day. I also agree with him on a few things. So you wanted my list but I have to add a null section because a few people I just cant read atm.

Very townie: Rayn, VA, Slam
Leaning town. BC, Mig, thrawn, Mr. CC, LM
Null: Coag, Hopeless, pandain, oats, SS
Leaning Scum: Grack, risen
Very Scum: Austin, Koshi, HF

##VOTE:KOSHI
##VOTE:HOLYFLARE


Look at his reads list... he has the two lynch candidates as town... but how much effort does he put into trying to save them? Close to none with rayn (who only got lynched because of BC but he was still a person people wanted to kill) and absolutely none with BC. After not trying to save his town reads... he completely throws away his votes.

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 10:02 marvellosity wrote:
Holyflare (1): Onegu, Risen

austinmcc (1): Onegu



here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&currentpage=301#6003 he calls onegu null after calling him scum:

"
I have town reads on all of austin/mig/risen, there are a few people I'm undecided about such as pandain/onegu (vayne has sparked my interest and I may mason him to see how he acts outside of the thread... I haven't decided who to mason yet this cycle) and everyone else I honestly haven't paid any attention to at all due to being overwhelmed by playing my first 30+ person size game and on top of that, replacing into it with 100 pages of spam to slog through."



Then says he has a townie mindset...........:

On November 24 2013 15:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 13:19 austinmcc wrote:

I notice you really poked at onegu's votes, which are, indeed, kinda awful. Do you think his play as a WHOLE is scummy? Is the rest of his play townie/null, but the votes are just so bad that he's scummy?


I just read through his filter... and no, I don't. There are a few posts in particular that feel really genuine, like this one:

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 02:28 Onegu wrote:
On November 18 2013 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can't have a scumread on you after the last game.
Well i can but as long as you are "helping me" i don't even care if you are scum.



And I feel I am playing this game better than witchcraft, which is why I feel people who have played with me often should have scum reads on me lol.


It looks like an honest assessment of his play coupled with some good awareness of how other people should view him... it looks a lot more like a post that comes from a town mindset than from a scum one. A lot of his filter feels like that. His response to me about his D3 votes was that he wasn't voting on real lynch candidates because he thought all of them were town. It could just be a convenient position he set himself up for but after reading his filter... I don't think that's the case.



Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2013 03:45 GMT
#6952
That's all I found on a quick dive through really
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 28 2013 03:49 GMT
#6953
That's about the amount of interaction BC had with thrawn, and about the amount of interaction mocsta had with both BC and Thrawn.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 28 2013 03:50 GMT
#6954
The last bit of thrawn on onegu action was something I was concerned with, but not thinking about in a scum on scum way.

Thrawn took the very last bit of stuff onegu had done, called him mafia for it. Didn't appear to have looked at Onegu's filter as a whole, just grabbed onto one thing and called him scum.

I thought at the time it fit as a mafia scumread, because it was so opportunistic in calling someone scum without ever looking at their full play. That's why I asked about play as a whole. Did not actually look to see that he'd jumped around so much.
Fe fi fo fum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 28 2013 03:50 GMT
#6955
sparked his interest aka he saw a chance of mislynching me at the time
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 28 2013 03:55 GMT
#6956
On November 28 2013 12:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
sparked his interest aka he saw a chance of mislynching me at the time
Yup. That's me. Just mislynching you all day every day.
Fe fi fo fum.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 28 2013 03:55 GMT
#6957
Thrawn called BC scummy a little bit just like that, and never pushed him in the same way.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 28 2013 03:58 GMT
#6958
I really want to lynch Onegu / Coagulation. Errrrrrg
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2013 04:09 GMT
#6959
On November 28 2013 10:10 Holyflare wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Onegu


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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2013 04:09 GMT
#6960
god damn that cropping

http://i.imgur.com/QHjXYr9.png
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