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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 27 2013 01:02 GMT
#6681
WTF?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 27 2013 01:02 GMT
#6682
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 27 2013 01:03 GMT
#6683
##Vote: Risen

Why would they kill Koshi? He was on my unknown list.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 27 2013 01:03 GMT
#6684
killed him because he was suspicious of me obviously
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 27 2013 01:04 GMT
#6685
gg Koshi.

Yes Cheese, I know you were active early in Aperture. I was on your team, being really inactive.
Fe fi fo fum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 27 2013 01:04 GMT
#6686
hahahahaha wtf
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 27 2013 01:05 GMT
#6687
Koshi looked town, then killed rayn when scum wanted to kill pandain, and then looked too-wonky-to-be-scum on thrawn.
Fe fi fo fum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 27 2013 01:05 GMT
#6688
On November 27 2013 10:05 austinmcc wrote:
Koshi looked town, then killed rayn when scum wanted to kill pandain, and then looked too-wonky-to-be-scum on thrawn.


over someone like mig??
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 27 2013 01:06 GMT
#6689
the only sense I can make of this kill is if grack or pandain are on the mafia team, for a contrived/trolling reason
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 27 2013 01:06 GMT
#6690
On November 27 2013 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 10:05 austinmcc wrote:
Koshi looked town, then killed rayn when scum wanted to kill pandain, and then looked too-wonky-to-be-scum on thrawn.


over someone like mig??
Koshi has 66% more letters in his name. Dunno. Maybe they're worried about a doc, or...being weird, or whatever.

We can ask post-game.
Fe fi fo fum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 27 2013 01:07 GMT
#6691
+ Show Spoiler [LoneMeow mason log HF/LM] +
marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
11-24-2013
03:21 PM ET (US)
LoneMeow + Holyflare mason Day 4/Night 4
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Holyflare
11-24-2013
04:04 PM ET (US)
Howdy! Why have you masoned me today my friend?
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LoneMeowPerson was signed in when posted
11-25-2013
01:27 AM ET (US)
Morning. I picked you because:

1. You're difficult to analyze from the thread
2. I don't fully trust my previous mason partners so I didn't want to follow their suggestions
3. You're in more or less the same timezone
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LoneMeowPerson was signed in when posted
11-25-2013
06:36 AM ET (US)
When you're around, I'd like to discuss some thoughts on Koshi and VayneAuthority.
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Holyflare
11-25-2013
09:01 AM ET (US)
Posting from phone so sorry if it's a bit shit as it's off the top of my head.

I think koshi is town, I don't think he makes a colossal play such as getting rayn lynched as scum. It was very ballsy and he looked utterly convinced that he could read rayn, I think that emotion is hard to fake, especially the sadness when he is wrong.

VA on the other hand. I don't dislike him as town but I haven't read too much into him over other candidates than I could have. He was fairly inactive to begin, only leaving breadcrumbs. He is apparently a MH but didn't call out rayn for it at all, possibly because he thought rayn was towny as is suggested by his posts around rayns death. He's stepped up his posting tenfold now and nobody has anti claimed hatter so I'll have to see. People say that he steers town in wrong directions when he is scum and I'm starting to see a bit pf that shine through recntly.
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Holyflare
11-25-2013
09:02 AM ET (US)
Can you give me your opinion on oats and hopeless?
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LoneMeowPerson was signed in when posted
11-25-2013
02:31 PM ET (US)
Oatsmaster had been flying completely under my radar, so I went and re-read his filter, and found some interesting tidbits.

These were posted in the game thread:

---

Oatsmaster Singapore. November 21 2013 13:30.
Either BC or SS is scum.

##vote SS
GOO SS.

Risen, why did you drop your policy lynch on Grack? Why is Grack making a joke about being masons with Coag scummy?
##vote Risen

---

Oatsmaster Singapore. November 22 2013 01:00.
Thank you hopeless.
##unvote BC
vote SS

---


But this is what was posted in the voting thread:

---

Oatsmaster Singapore. November 22 2013 01:00.
##
vote SS
##Vote Risen

---

He had been suggesting that BC is scum for a while, then voted SS anyway who he had hardly mentioned at all.
He then proceeds to have both his votes on players who aren't viable lynch targets at all.


During the game he's had what seem to be pretty strong scum reads, but he's never really pushed for one of those to be lynched until now that he is suddenly pushing Risen.


Verdict: Scummy, would lynch.
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LoneMeowPerson was signed in when posted
11-25-2013
02:47 PM ET (US)
On Hopeless1der, let's see.

His switch away from BC and then back is somewhat questionable.

He tries to push Pandain early on which looks good to me since I think Pandain might be scum. On the other hand he also defends Oats who seems scummy to me.

Not much else stands out about him, I liked that the tried to make VA not call others names and present cases instead.


Verdict: Null.
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Holyflare
11-25-2013
05:32 PM ET (US)
What do you think of hopeless' posts today?
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LoneMeowPerson was signed in when posted
11-25-2013
05:43 PM ET (US)
I'm not sure, the point about WIFOM is okay but I don't especially like how he attacks supersoft's reads. Sure, supersoft was wrong, but that's not exactly a reason to disbelieve all of his reads.
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Holyflare
11-25-2013
06:32 PM ET (US)
Do you feel like they are overly aggressive at people when he himself does nothing to solve the issue? Also what do you feel about this thrawb/risen vote?

Alssoooo the stuff about onegu is that he returns to the thread, says nothing about anyone and then drops some more nonsense about me. Look at his last point about me. That my vote wasn't on my scum read risen? It actually was. He lies and says he has read/caught up and then posts things to throw people off me because he knows i am suspicious of him.

Also, i am not sure of your alignment. If you are around now, you have 30 mins to sell yourself to me. I masoned mig today and i can say he is 100% town
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 27 2013 01:08 GMT
#6692
Lonemeow are you going to do stuff.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 27 2013 01:11 GMT
#6693
##vote: Risen

Is that the entirety of the log?
Fe fi fo fum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 27 2013 01:12 GMT
#6694
##Vote Risen
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 27 2013 01:12 GMT
#6695
What do you think of LM from the log HF?
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 27 2013 01:15 GMT
#6696
On November 27 2013 10:11 austinmcc wrote:
##vote: Risen

Is that the entirety of the log?

yes lol....


@oats, I liked that he went looking for things from you, I don't like how he responded to the part on hopeless' posting today, I'm really really not sold on him at all.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 27 2013 01:15 GMT
#6697
Lol killed Koshi, love it.

Every night I expect to die and every night mafia ignores me.

Koshi kill should probably be mostly ignored but something I mentioned to HF in our mason chat was that if Grack makes it to Lylo it will be fairly suspicious with every single mafia member going after him and him killing every mafia member. They should really kill him before then but if he makes it could point to some ridiculous super bussing setup. So maybe realizing this grack mafia has to leave alive the other pro town players so that it isn't suspicious for him to be alive at lylo? This is just a far fetched theory tho and the town should only consider things like this if it reaches that point.

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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 27 2013 01:17 GMT
#6698
Killed him because it makes me look the worst. Anywho, let's get this out of the way

##vote: risen

Time to discuss what happens when I flip town.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 27 2013 01:17 GMT
#6699
Why the instant I mention my crackpot theory EVERYBODY runs with it?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 27 2013 01:18 GMT
#6700
On November 27 2013 10:15 Mig wrote:
Lol killed Koshi, love it.

Every night I expect to die and every night mafia ignores me.

Koshi kill should probably be mostly ignored but something I mentioned to HF in our mason chat was that if Grack makes it to Lylo it will be fairly suspicious with every single mafia member going after him and him killing every mafia member. They should really kill him before then but if he makes it could point to some ridiculous super bussing setup. So maybe realizing this grack mafia has to leave alive the other pro town players so that it isn't suspicious for him to be alive at lylo? This is just a far fetched theory tho and the town should only consider things like this if it reaches that point.



It's not farfetched at all, me and grack discussed similar things when we played mafia together in golden sun. and with this kill I have reason to believe grack or pandain is on the scumteam, so it's not a stretch. seems like more of a reality soon.
I come in for the scraps
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