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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
November 25 2013 21:02 GMT
#6401
Honestly not very sure about this, but austinmcc's case is pretty convincing.

##Vote: thrawn2112
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 21:03 GMT
#6402
In this thread, a vote is tied 6-6.

The guy getting lynched is voting for himself, despite maintaining he is town.

Also, lynching scum today would cut their KP in half.

#headscratch
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 21:04 GMT
#6403
On November 26 2013 06:02 LoneMeow wrote:
Honestly not very sure about this, but austinmcc's case is pretty convincing.

##Vote: thrawn2112
What part of my posts MOST convince you he's mafia?

Are there parts that you disagree with? Think i've got blinders on and am painting something townie/null as uber-scummy?
Fe fi fo fum.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 25 2013 21:05 GMT
#6404
Well. The kush list is currently on thrawn and Alakaslam is on VA. Pretty meh about this. I stay on Risen. I am in bed when deadline is anyway. Also imo Risen > thrawn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 25 2013 21:06 GMT
#6405
Hey.

I can choose this lynch. Tell me who.

I will be useful.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
November 25 2013 21:07 GMT
#6406
Vote Count:


Risen (6): Mr. Cheesecake, VayneAuthority, Pandain, Risen, Koshi, Mig, Holyflare, Grackaroni, Alakaslam, Onegu

thrawn2112 (6): austinmcc, Holyflare, Hopeless1der, Coagulation, Grackaroni, Mr. Cheesecake, LoneMeow

Pandain (0): Hopeless1der

VayneAuthority (2): thrawn2112, Alakaslam

Alakaslam (1): VayneAuthority


not voting (1): Oatsmaster


Deadline is in . Voting is mandatory.

Currently
Risen ist set to be lynched! If you see a vote out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.

"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 21:07 GMT
#6407
On November 26 2013 06:05 Koshi wrote:
Well. The kush list is currently on thrawn and Alakaslam is on VA. Pretty meh about this. I stay on Risen. I am in bed when deadline is anyway. Also imo Risen > thrawn.
Please to answer before sleep.
On November 26 2013 05:44 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 05:39 Koshi wrote:
I am not too sad anymore.

But really it comes down on thrawn not being a boss. I see him defending BC a couple times when it is totally not needed (D2 lynch) which is not scummy I guess. But then things like saying Onegu is scum for a meh reason and then the total apathetic follow up on that is scummy.

But I have really no interest in lynching thrawn over Risen.
Why does thrawn vote BC yesterday? Where is thrawn scummy on BC?

Why is Risen super-duper-mega-guaranteed scum? If Risen is super duper mega guaranteed scum, why does he not keep a vote on pandain yesterday?
I made you a cake. You looked at some of this stuff just a moment ago, so it takes even less effort now to explain things, you're already caught up!

YAYAYA ANSWER YESSSSSSSSS GOOD
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 21:08 GMT
#6408
On November 26 2013 06:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey.

I can choose this lynch. Tell me who.

I will be useful.
'Fraid you should choose for yourself.

I would recommend thrawn. However, there are cases on both peeps in the thread, and both have filters that smell like strawberries if you open them up and read through them. Promise, read through each filter and by the end of it you will almost certainly smell strawberries. But you have to read all the way through.

Either way, I would suggest giving some thoughts on each.
Fe fi fo fum.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
November 25 2013 21:08 GMT
#6409
On November 26 2013 06:04 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 06:02 LoneMeow wrote:
Honestly not very sure about this, but austinmcc's case is pretty convincing.

##Vote: thrawn2112
What part of my posts MOST convince you he's mafia?

Are there parts that you disagree with? Think i've got blinders on and am painting something townie/null as uber-scummy?


The problem I have is that you're kind of suspicious after D3 votes but the case seems pretty solid. Hold on while I re-re-read thrawn2112's filter.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
November 25 2013 21:10 GMT
#6410
austinmcc, in the meanwhile: how possible would you say that both thrawn2112 and Oatsmaster are scum?
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 25 2013 21:13 GMT
#6411
On November 26 2013 06:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey.

I can choose this lynch. Tell me who.

I will be useful.


thrawn
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 25 2013 21:13 GMT
#6412
On November 26 2013 06:07 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 06:05 Koshi wrote:
Well. The kush list is currently on thrawn and Alakaslam is on VA. Pretty meh about this. I stay on Risen. I am in bed when deadline is anyway. Also imo Risen > thrawn.
Please to answer before sleep.
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 05:44 austinmcc wrote:
On November 26 2013 05:39 Koshi wrote:
I am not too sad anymore.

But really it comes down on thrawn not being a boss. I see him defending BC a couple times when it is totally not needed (D2 lynch) which is not scummy I guess. But then things like saying Onegu is scum for a meh reason and then the total apathetic follow up on that is scummy.

But I have really no interest in lynching thrawn over Risen.
Why does thrawn vote BC yesterday? Where is thrawn scummy on BC?

Why is Risen super-duper-mega-guaranteed scum? If Risen is super duper mega guaranteed scum, why does he not keep a vote on pandain yesterday?
I made you a cake. You looked at some of this stuff just a moment ago, so it takes even less effort now to explain things, you're already caught up!

YAYAYA ANSWER YESSSSSSSSS GOOD

Look. I already told you that the main thing I find scummy about thrawn is his lack of bossness. There are 2 reasons for this.

1) he is scum and he doesn't give 2 fucks.
2) he is town and he doesn't give 2 fucks.

His vote on a dead BC doesn't matter because there were 3 other wagons. Which were Risen, Pandain and rayn. So unless he had scum reads on 2 of those people his vote on BC is not indicative off anything, tbh it is even more towny because he is just sheeping town sentiment which is not a bad thing if you are town and don't give a fuck. As scum you might at least park your vote on some guy you said was scummy.

But let me see what thrawn says about Risen.
I had a good night of sleep.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 21:16 GMT
#6413
On November 26 2013 06:10 LoneMeow wrote:
austinmcc, in the meanwhile: how possible would you say that both thrawn2112 and Oatsmaster are scum?
I still think it pretty unlikely that oats is scum.

Oats had a lot of interactions on D1 that I found to be scummy. Asking specific questions to people that sought information that Townie Tom would want. Some useless stuff, but generally he was getting after things that I think town should have wanted to get at.

Thrawn interacts a decent amount with oats on D2, that's very relevant to this question. Oats is asking about BH/thrawn mason chat heavily, trying to get the information town should want to know. Thrawn is ... talking a LOT with oats if they're mafia buddies. He finds oats mafia because "town oats wouldn't think I'm scum." I don't think that's the sort of thing you say about your scumbuddy. Even their little banter today, "mind explaining what you're going to contribute" --> oats being oats = probably not buddies.


Their dialogue on D2 reads legit. Not scum on scum action. Oats is poking at the RIGHT things, he's asking the RIGHT questions, and that's not a scum/scum dialogue.
Fe fi fo fum.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 25 2013 21:19 GMT
#6414
On November 23 2013 08:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
goddammit lol i'm not nearly scummy enough... plan failed

AUUUSTINNNN you're like confm town to me wtf should I do? I don't want to vote Risen because since I've come back he's been posting nearly the entire time uninterrupted and has made sense throughout all of it. It looks completely unlike what a scum player would be able to do in the last few hours leading up to his lynch.


On November 23 2013 09:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 08:59 austinmcc wrote:
On November 23 2013 08:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
goddammit lol i'm not nearly scummy enough... plan failed

AUUUSTINNNN you're like confm town to me wtf should I do? I don't want to vote Risen because since I've come back he's been posting nearly the entire time uninterrupted and has made sense throughout all of it. It looks completely unlike what a scum player would be able to do in the last few hours leading up to his lynch.
Why am I confirmed town now?

Also, on a more serious note if you're town.

OH MAN LOOK AT THAT YOU JUST POSTED SORT OF A READ ON A PLAYER UP FOR LYNCH WITH A JUSTIFICATION THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT YOU SHOULD DO WHEN YOU DECIDE WHO TO LYNCH.

You have now removed Risen from your possible voting options.

If you look at BC, ss, oats, maybe a little rayn and a little of koshi's stuff on rayn, I bet you can totally get through a couple of those people and find reasons to vote or not vote them and then put that in the thread and vote accordingly.


I completely disagree with what koshi is saying about rayn. BC.... I just don't fucking know, I was really convinced by his D2 angry posts and I've liked him for being on this same page as me during that time..
but after I came back from afk he was the first person I read and his latest posts (conversations with Mig) are completely different in tone to the posts that I liked him so much for earlier. I want him to answer this before I decide:

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 08:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive.


I haven't looked at oats/ss yet so I'll do that in the meantime

To me thrawn looks town that doesn't give a shit. And when I say doesn't give a shit I am a bit overstating it obviously. Just not as much as in WitchCraft.
So that's my answer to that question.

Town thrawn had a townread on both Risen, rayn and BC. He had 2 votes and there were 4 wagons. He put a vote on his scumread Pandain and then his last vote on BC because everybody was on BC.

Got no problem with that tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 21:22 GMT
#6415
On November 26 2013 06:13 Koshi wrote:
His vote on a dead BC doesn't matter because there were 3 other wagons. Which were Risen, Pandain and rayn. So unless he had scum reads on 2 of those people his vote on BC is not indicative off anything, tbh it is even more towny because he is just sheeping town sentiment which is not a bad thing if you are town and don't give a fuck. As scum you might at least park your vote on some guy you said was scummy.
BC was his TOWNIEST VET the day before. Now thrawn is voting BC.

Why? You say he's sheeping town sentiment, he's town and DGAF. But that is NOT what thrawn's posts read. He is asking BC to explain something, pestering for follow up, he's not sheeping a town read here - + Show Spoiler +
On November 23 2013 08:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive.
On November 23 2013 09:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 08:59 austinmcc wrote:
On November 23 2013 08:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
goddammit lol i'm not nearly scummy enough... plan failed

AUUUSTINNNN you're like confm town to me wtf should I do? I don't want to vote Risen because since I've come back he's been posting nearly the entire time uninterrupted and has made sense throughout all of it. It looks completely unlike what a scum player would be able to do in the last few hours leading up to his lynch.
Why am I confirmed town now?

Also, on a more serious note if you're town.

OH MAN LOOK AT THAT YOU JUST POSTED SORT OF A READ ON A PLAYER UP FOR LYNCH WITH A JUSTIFICATION THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT YOU SHOULD DO WHEN YOU DECIDE WHO TO LYNCH.

You have now removed Risen from your possible voting options.

If you look at BC, ss, oats, maybe a little rayn and a little of koshi's stuff on rayn, I bet you can totally get through a couple of those people and find reasons to vote or not vote them and then put that in the thread and vote accordingly.


I completely disagree with what koshi is saying about rayn. BC.... I just don't fucking know, I was really convinced by his D2 angry posts and I've liked him for being on this same page as me during that time.. but after I came back from afk he was the first person I read and his latest posts (conversations with Mig) are completely different in tone to the posts that I liked him so much for earlier. I want him to answer this before I decide:

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 08:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive.


I haven't looked at oats/ss yet so I'll do that in the meantime
On November 23 2013 09:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC please get in here and answer me

On November 23 2013 09:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC respond to my questions! Please!

On November 23 2013 09:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Which questions thrawn?


Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 08:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive.


you do sorta the same thing to mig in your read list

On November 23 2013 09:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Which questions thrawn?


On November 23 2013 08:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive.


you do sorta the same thing to mig in your read list


My read on mig is that he has played a game that imo doesn't correspond with how he claims to play. Albeit I think my read of him is far less solid then it once was which is why he is now so far town on my scum list. He should be offed only after the first 4 + oats. Simple. I harassed him on his night actions, and i wasn't satisfied with the results, but at the same time the way he has played over this day cycle has been really solid aside from those interactions. I think his night actions are suspect, I dont like how he responded, I also don't like that he isn't being a more vocal and active voice in the game. Overall hes way too passive for what I know he can do and should be doing.


..... but what's your read on him?

"My read on mig is that he has played a game that imo doesn't correspond with how he claims to play."

Idk what alignment that is



The question is, is that townThrawn pestering BC or scumThrawn pestering BC. Cuz if you think he's just sheeping town sentiment, ... we need to talk. I maintain that thrawn voted BC before he had any reason to do so, never actually comes out and says BC is scummy to him, and entirely fails to put up any defense of his TOWNIEST VET from D2, the guy whose mind was in the same spot as thrawn's so often.

That means it's scumThrawn. That means thrawn REALIZES that BC is lynched yesterday, and that he looks bad for his BC stuff, and he's trying to get around and vote BC to look a little better. But instead of giving clear/good/decent reasons for why he's not scummy on BC and willing to vote him, he just punts that away and votes BC before having any answer, any reason to change his read.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 21:24 GMT
#6416
If he's on BC because everyone is on BC, why is he pestering BC with a question? And if he's town and is pestering BC with a question. why does he vote before he gets the answer he wanted, and what does he think about BC's alignment after BC answers the question that thrawn so DESPERATELY wanted answered?

Does that REALLY look like someone just sheeping town sentiment?
Fe fi fo fum.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 25 2013 21:25 GMT
#6417
austin why was Kush killed?
I had a good night of sleep.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
November 25 2013 21:26 GMT
#6418
austinmcc, so who would be likely scum if thrawn2112 flips red?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 25 2013 21:33 GMT
#6419
On November 26 2013 06:25 Koshi wrote:
austin why was Kush killed?
Because mafia shot him!

I presume that you want more than that, though. You want speculation as to WHY mafia did what they did?

Because he looked pretty townie to MOST people that commented on him. imo, that's the reason. Perhaps he looks very townie and is on the wrong track. Perhaps he looks townie but has not yet commented on a bunch of their teammates. Perhaps, at the end of the day, he was critical of grack and grack's lying about being a mason, and scum were looking to push a grack mislynch. It could be because of who is NOT on his list, he was townie on supersoft, when supersoft was looking a bit wonky because he was so sure oats was scum.

There are a bunch of reasons or possible reasons.

What I would say is that, if you are trying to use this as some counterpoint to my questions about thrawn, I am asking you to explain one person's behavior based on his posts. I don't think it makes any sense as town behavior. You are asking me to explain why a whole mafia team shot someone, based on whatever a whole mafia team thinks and doesn't write in the thread.
Fe fi fo fum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 25 2013 21:33 GMT
#6420
On November 26 2013 06:02 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 05:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
austin im not going to explain anything to some one I think is scum. If thrawn actually flips red then we can talk.
Regardless of thrawn's flip, I'm pretty certain you won't be able to explain his vote on BC.


If he flips town then it's irrelevant because it clearly wasn't scum motivated. logic 101
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