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meh... don't know what to think about hopeless.
what I just told BC about hopeless was one of the ways he (hopeless) was obviously town in wc2... lol not giving a shit and being lazy is a town tell for him
and shit like this:
On November 18 2013 14:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
if he was scum I'd think that he'd at least have given reasons for his reads no matter how BS they might be, considering how much pressure he was under
+ Show Spoiler [to hopeless] +hey hopeless, if you are town then I sincerely apologize for being an ass. but if you're town then you should try to change your town meta starting this game
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On November 18 2013 14:30 Pandain wrote:
No because scum doesn't tell someone they fake-claim due to being busy. That seems more like a townie thing to do.
earlier you said if BH is town then that changes everything about how you view the game. has it and if so how?
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On November 18 2013 14:40 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 14:33 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 18 2013 14:30 Pandain wrote:
No because scum doesn't tell someone they fake-claim due to being busy. That seems more like a townie thing to do.
earlier you said if BH is town then that changes everything about how you view the game. has it and if so how? Yes I'm learning I still have a lot to learn
i'm not talking about how to play mafia... i'm wanting to know how/if your other reads have changed or if you've gained any new ones as a result of all this
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On November 18 2013 15:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Koshi is likely scum but I want to hear more from BH. I also haven't peeked into Oats' filter since the start of the game so I will take a look at him.
you've had a decently long convo with him (oats) so what do you think now?
btw I agree with you about koshi. my read on him right now is completely based off the super strong super townie connection I had with him in WC and i'm eagerly looking forward to getting to talk to him 1 on 1 to follow up that read.
you were one of the people I was looking at pre D2 but with the direction mocsta seemed tobe heading I'm not so sure about that read anymore. I do have a question for you....
earlier you said this:
On November 18 2013 10:29 Grackaroni wrote:
It would be pretty cool if all the scum end up being the people pushing me.
can you elaborate on exactly what you were thinking at the time you wrote this? obviously mocsta fits that category but who else? there were lots of people on your case, which of them are scum? you must have had a least a few people in mind
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On November 18 2013 15:50 Pandain wrote:
Hey man I was pretty certain he was mafia
pandain can you answer this?
On November 18 2013 14:45 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 14:40 Pandain wrote:On November 18 2013 14:33 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 18 2013 14:30 Pandain wrote:
No because scum doesn't tell someone they fake-claim due to being busy. That seems more like a townie thing to do.
earlier you said if BH is town then that changes everything about how you view the game. has it and if so how? Yes I'm learning I still have a lot to learn i'm not talking about how to play mafia... i'm wanting to know how/if your other reads have changed or if you've gained any new ones as a result of all this
you said:
On November 18 2013 10:53 Pandain wrote:
Actually if I'm wrong about BH then I'm going to be wrong in a lot of stuff and have to basically rethink everything I think about mafia.
hmmm
this implies that a change in your BH read will greatly influence your thoughts on this current game. so has it?
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On November 18 2013 16:22 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 16:21 Blazinghand wrote:
it's not clear to me why grack is suddenly a bad lynch btw because Grackaronis are always town.
dude this is 100% the type of thing that BH and I talked about in qt. you randomly go from serious to trolling and it looks like you're switching between them based on whatever is going to help you be ignored or not taken seriously. I asked you a question a page or two ago, can you get to it
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On November 18 2013 16:25 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 16:01 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 18 2013 15:50 Pandain wrote:
Hey man I was pretty certain he was mafia pandain can you answer this? On November 18 2013 14:45 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 18 2013 14:40 Pandain wrote:On November 18 2013 14:33 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 18 2013 14:30 Pandain wrote:
No because scum doesn't tell someone they fake-claim due to being busy. That seems more like a townie thing to do.
earlier you said if BH is town then that changes everything about how you view the game. has it and if so how? Yes I'm learning I still have a lot to learn i'm not talking about how to play mafia... i'm wanting to know how/if your other reads have changed or if you've gained any new ones as a result of all this you said: On November 18 2013 10:53 Pandain wrote:
Actually if I'm wrong about BH then I'm going to be wrong in a lot of stuff and have to basically rethink everything I think about mafia.
hmmm this implies that a change in your BH read will greatly influence your thoughts on this current game. so has it? No I meant how to play mafia and I would be wrong on how I approach the game and think things
eh... that's not at all the impression I got from that post. regardless, has your read change on BH affected anything else about how you're processing the game? it seemed to be all you wanted to talk about so I imagine that it should. what is your priority numero uno right now?
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On November 18 2013 16:26 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 16:24 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 18 2013 16:22 Grackaroni wrote:On November 18 2013 16:21 Blazinghand wrote:
it's not clear to me why grack is suddenly a bad lynch btw because Grackaronis are always town. dude this is 100% the type of thing that BH and I talked about in qt. you randomly go from serious to trolling and it looks like you're switching between them based on whatever is going to help you be ignored or not taken seriously. I asked you a question a page or two ago, can you get to it Yeah let's do grack today honestly he's just doing this thing to stay off the radar. ##vote grackaroni
yea ok
so you think mocsta was bussing?
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On November 18 2013 16:32 Grackaroni wrote: Pandain/BC/VE/BH all fit that category off the top of my head. Should actually be a decent number of scum in there too.
here's the part where you elaborate on why you found their suspicions of you to be suspicious....
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PANDA GODDAMMIT PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT NOW THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT BH
i've asked you like 4 times
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On November 18 2013 16:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey thrawn has BH talked about who he thinks is scum or town in the mason chat?
yeah. he spcifically asked me to give him names which he followed up on
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On November 18 2013 16:40 Pandain wrote:
stop I have no opinions on anything besides BH and SS
lol at least you're honest about it
you do know that at some point you will need to talk about scumreads? if you don't have any scumreads why are you wasting everyone's time posting about nothing instead of filter diving or whatever?
make sure that your next post in the thread includes what I've asked for
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On November 18 2013 17:55 Grackaroni wrote:
I just glanced through BH's filter again and he made my case for me by including his normal breadcrumbs and how proud he is of them earlier in this game. BH's scum play is laughable.
I have no idea what you're saying here. elaborate?
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On November 19 2013 01:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 01:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 19 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 18 2013 16:19 Blazinghand wrote:
like i'm kind of amazed people took that seriously. I didn't get RBed or shot so clearly scum didn't believe me so I guess I fucked up that chance to be cool but like come on man you aren't telling me you actually thought that crumb made sense? ._. Actually this post makes no sense because BH here retracts from his tracker claim and in that case he can't possibly know if he was roleblocked or not. Soooo.. /dunked To be quite honest this is a terrible post. You aren't notified if you are roleblocked. However, if you have a role and use it that would normally give you intel back (tracker for instance) you just dont get a pm of findings, ie you'd know you were blocked because you had 0 findings. That's rayn his point. BH says he isn't a tracker, but in the same sentence knows that he wasn't RB. How did he know he wasn't RB when he did no night action?
Hi koshi! How are you doing?
why can't you just sheep me like in WC2? BH isn't scum!
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On November 19 2013 01:25 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 01:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 19 2013 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 19 2013 01:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 19 2013 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 19 2013 01:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 19 2013 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was an indirect lie? Yamato had me as a town read, not want to kill me. He stopped wanting to off me what? halfway mark of day 1. Thats an indirect lie as you cherry picked his words to find something he did actually say, but he had also changed his opinion and stated that in game. Also as a note, you may not have liked my conclusions but go look at his filter from personality 2. He interacts with austin twice day 1 then ignores his team almost fully until town has been so fucked up the asshole he has to talk to his team. You don't like my conclusions is fine, but from a meta stand point it makes perfect sense. Don't like why I think grack could still be scum? Read how mocsta was crafting his messages in personality. Everything was careful and had no real emotion behind it. He looks genuinely pissed at grack on their back and forths. He didnt react that way with anyone else except grack. Why? You may not like my conclusion but the reasoning behind it is fairly sound. Yeah i agree he did not want you dead at the end of N1. You were one of the people he had accused. That's not a strong point anyways, and i didn't mean it like that. Can you explain the "Mocsta's scum-meta suggests he does not interact with his scumbuddies, therefore all these people here are town with no other explanation" and right after "but Grackaroni is scum because Moscta talked about him"? Also can you comment on my analyses on why i think Grackaroni is town and tell me why would Mocsta bus him because what you and BH are suggesting is absurd as hell. Tell me why would Mocsta leave no room other than to bus his teammate on D2 over ~10 other options that definitely do not make him look any worse? His meta shows he distances himself and almost exclusively talks with town. He tunnels a townie he views as bad (storr). He then does everything else he did this game which is try and not be on radars. I am saying grack is different because of HOW he talked to him. Read personality 2, read this games filter. His interactions with grack are completely different than any other he had. He seems in this game to have a genuine reaction of anger/annoyance/whatever to grack. The guy carefully writes posts. Why would his interactions with 1 player be completely different from everything else his meta suggests? I would say cause he was legit pissed at grack for tunneling the shit out of him. I am reading it off of one specific reaction. Could I be wrong? Yes. However Grack has done basically nothing this game to make me doubt that read of the situation. If mocsta was as pissed as I think he was it would make perfect sense to still dive on grack. Am i reading this correct. mafia!Mocsta was genuinely pissed off with mafia!Grackaroni for Grack tunneling Mocsta? its how I'd read it yes. I can say as someone whos done some filter diving that mocsta wasn't really heavily picked up as a potential mafia by many people until after the bit between the two and grack was one of the more vocal people about the push. Could I be wrong? yes, but its completely out of place reaction type. If you don't believe my conclusion the information I used is open to anyone else to analyze. He didn't seem to like Artanis either but you are right that Mocsta actually does seem really angry towards me.
lo grack wtf is this? are you agreeing with BC that you're scum?
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BC are you calling rayn mafia? What's your srs-ness level on this rayn stuff?
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On November 19 2013 01:30 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 01:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 19 2013 01:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im pretty confused BC.
So Mocsta normally types very carefully to his scummates. But he is very angry with Grack this game. Therefore Grack is scum? He types carefully in general and ignores his teammates. The interaction with grack this game from what I saw in both games filters is completely unique. Its only that reason that it stands out to me. SO HOW DOES IT MAKE GRACK SCUM????
oats read gracks filter. what has he done besides not commit to actual scumhunting and resort to trolling whenever people try to get him to commit to scumhunting? ignore mocsta. tbh I agree with BC 100% on his analysis of moc's posts concerning grack and BH has made good points about the possible interactions between moc/grack. but ignore all of that. what is your read on grack when you ignore all of that?
@BC
On November 19 2013 01:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC are you calling rayn mafia? What's your srs-ness level on this rayn stuff?
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On November 19 2013 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Could people (especially thrawn) comment on Blazinghands sQumslip and if you think that's not a scumslip how do you explain it?
If you have no answer you cannot tell people to look into Grack because if Blazinghand is scum Grack is 100% town because he was meant to be scumteams D2 mislynch.
what are you talking about? how does that relate to this game?
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On November 19 2013 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 18 2013 16:19 Blazinghand wrote:
like i'm kind of amazed people took that seriously. I didn't get RBed or shot so clearly scum didn't believe me so I guess I fucked up that chance to be cool but like come on man you aren't telling me you actually thought that crumb made sense? ._. Actually this post makes no sense because BH here retracts from his tracker claim and in that case he can't possibly know if he was roleblocked or not. Soooo.. /dunked Thrawn answer this post immediately. You are not allowed to call Grack scum until you debunk this argument.
because he's not a tracker so everything he says regarding his tracker actions are bs
/facepalm
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oh my god
blazinghand pls
get in here
pls blazinghand
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