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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 22 2013 13:52 GMT
#5181
Sorry I was sick today and busy with son at hospital yesterday, I am catching up now.
Try TL Mafia!!!
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
November 22 2013 13:59 GMT
#5182
On November 20 2013 08:21 Pandain wrote:
Okay I just finished analyzing everyone but Slam, I'll do that later.

Right now i have scum reads most heavily on Lonemeow, heavy reads on Holy and Oats, and then am really suspicious of Coag/Mattchew/Risen.


I already asked you to explain, but now it's even more relevant. Explain why you thought I was scum and why you apparently don't seem to think so anymore.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 22 2013 14:06 GMT
#5183
Urgh, koshi, rayn has so much filter that contradictions also make sense in that sense but I'll look into him :/

LM, what is your updated view on how things have gone. Has anything drastically changed and have you caught up?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
November 22 2013 14:11 GMT
#5184
On November 22 2013 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
Urgh, koshi, rayn has so much filter that contradictions also make sense in that sense but I'll look into him :/

LM, what is your updated view on how things have gone. Has anything drastically changed and have you caught up?


I have only skimmed the thread since D3 started, working on reading through it now but it'll take a while since I'm working at the same time.

If you have spare time, could you give me a summary of the claim shenigans that happened?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 14:14 GMT
#5185
On November 22 2013 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
Urgh, koshi, rayn has so much filter that contradictions also make sense in that sense but I'll look into him :/

LM, what is your updated view on how things have gone. Has anything drastically changed and have you caught up?

I have played 9 games with rayn. 9 times I was correct.

In this game I am confident to say that he is scum.

Again. Catching rayn is not easy and for some reason you people are horrible at it.

Noir -> Nobody on rayn except me.
Witchcraft 2 -> Nobody on rayn except me when I replaced.

GoT -> Nobody on rayn (I was in his scumteam back then)

rayn got catched in ## mafia. (marv was suspicious D1 but we only lynched on D3)
rayn got catched in WorldCup mafia (BH got him D1)

Most of the time if you don't catch rayn D1 he trashes over town. I think ## mafia lynching rayn on D3 was an unicum.


I will not change my view on rayn this game anymore.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 14:15 GMT
#5186
^ the number 9 is a random guess. I wanted to make this game 10 at the start. But it is possible there are 9 games.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 15:11 GMT
#5187
Mafia record:

[T] Newbie Mini Mafia XLIV Victory
[S] Nuclear Winter Mafia Victory
[T] I Swear This Is Normal Mini Mafia 2 Victory
[T] Titanic Mini Mafia! Loss
[SK] Sicilian Mafia Style Victory
[S] GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars Victory
[T] Persona 4 Mini Mafia Town Victory
[T] Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 Loss
[T] TL Mafia LXII: TL Noir Loss
[T] Golden Sun Mini Mafia 2 Loss
[T] Thug Life Mini Mafia Victory
[T] Hogwarts Mafia Victory
[T] "##" Mafia Victory
[T] Witchcraft Mini Mafia II Loss

I feel like I played very well in my last 5 games. I should spam a little less and nail scum a little more but overall it's pretty good.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 15:12 GMT
#5188
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Didn't want to post that. Wanted to preview. Was for my profile.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 15:12 GMT
#5189
true story
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 15:13 GMT
#5190
I am really sad atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 22 2013 15:24 GMT
#5191
On November 21 2013 13:54 Risen wrote:
Gonna go get laid, fellow nerds. Try to learn how to play the game while I'm out. If you don't I won't be bothered/surprised. I'm town this game so... yeah. PEACE

Also, I think I might be the only VT in this game with all the power flying around me.



No I am VT and no masons have masoned me I R sad panda.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 15:26 GMT
#5192
On November 23 2013 00:24 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 13:54 Risen wrote:
Gonna go get laid, fellow nerds. Try to learn how to play the game while I'm out. If you don't I won't be bothered/surprised. I'm town this game so... yeah. PEACE

Also, I think I might be the only VT in this game with all the power flying around me.



No I am VT and no masons have masoned me I R sad panda.

Are you convinceable rayn is scum?
I had a good night of sleep.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 22 2013 15:27 GMT
#5193
On November 22 2013 23:14 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
Urgh, koshi, rayn has so much filter that contradictions also make sense in that sense but I'll look into him :/

LM, what is your updated view on how things have gone. Has anything drastically changed and have you caught up?

I have played 9 games with rayn. 9 times I was correct.

In this game I am confident to say that he is scum.

Again. Catching rayn is not easy and for some reason you people are horrible at it.

Noir -> Nobody on rayn except me.
Witchcraft 2 -> Nobody on rayn except me when I replaced.

GoT -> Nobody on rayn (I was in his scumteam back then)

rayn got catched in ## mafia. (marv was suspicious D1 but we only lynched on D3)
rayn got catched in WorldCup mafia (BH got him D1)

Most of the time if you don't catch rayn D1 he trashes over town. I think ## mafia lynching rayn on D3 was an unicum.


I will not change my view on rayn this game anymore.



I was heavy tunneled on rayn in WC.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 22 2013 15:27 GMT
#5194
On November 23 2013 00:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 00:24 Onegu wrote:
On November 21 2013 13:54 Risen wrote:
Gonna go get laid, fellow nerds. Try to learn how to play the game while I'm out. If you don't I won't be bothered/surprised. I'm town this game so... yeah. PEACE

Also, I think I might be the only VT in this game with all the power flying around me.



No I am VT and no masons have masoned me I R sad panda.

Are you convinceable rayn is scum?



I will re read him. But I still got heavy town read on him.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 15:28 GMT
#5195
On November 23 2013 00:27 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 00:26 Koshi wrote:
On November 23 2013 00:24 Onegu wrote:
On November 21 2013 13:54 Risen wrote:
Gonna go get laid, fellow nerds. Try to learn how to play the game while I'm out. If you don't I won't be bothered/surprised. I'm town this game so... yeah. PEACE

Also, I think I might be the only VT in this game with all the power flying around me.



No I am VT and no masons have masoned me I R sad panda.

Are you convinceable rayn is scum?



I will re read him. But I still got heavy town read on him.

Why, I am the other way around. Could you give me a list please:

towny town:
leaning town:
leaning scum:
scummy scum:
I had a good night of sleep.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 22 2013 15:52 GMT
#5196
Im not caught up yet, but

Townie town: Rayn
Leaning Town:LM
Leaning scum: Holyflare
Scummy scummerson: Austin

But these are really outdated. And I have to finish catching up.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 15:54 GMT
#5197
I would love that you put all the remaining players in that list.
But please wait till you read everything.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 16:16 GMT
#5198
To all the lurky lurk lurkers: Consider rayn lynch please.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 22 2013 16:43 GMT
#5199
Koshi, I still think rayn is town. His mason plan seemed to come from such a townie perspective. Your entire case is basically built on 1) having to trust that you are the rayn whisperer and 2) his reads change, which I imagine is true for everyone who is actually playing the game and trying to figure stuff out. It would be an issue if you could prove his reads change for illogical reasons.

Also I want to point out Thrawn has made 65 posts in his other game since his last post here. What the fuck.

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 16:58 GMT
#5200
On November 20 2013 09:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holy shit. I definitely know what outs austin as scum now.
I don't wanna tell it though haha. I can tell you he is 100% scum. Lynch him the next day. Or vig him during night. That dude is scum! ^^


On November 20 2013 10:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
austin so scum.


Nothing on austin but there is:

On November 20 2013 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well first of all, fuck the plan. It would have been so good but it's not allowed. I was planning on using the double lynch to lynch supersoft/supersoft so we could have passed the pardoner protection from the lynch but that's not possible to vote for the same person for both of the lynches.

Anyways, here i presesent to you supersoft the mafia pardoner:

This is supersoft's to lynch -list near end of D1:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 05:08 supersoft wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:56 Pandain wrote:
Supersoft since you wont answer in mason chat, who do you want to lynch first


Someone from this group probably:

Grack, coagulation, Hopeless1der, Storr, hiro protagonist, Risen, OOHCHILD (mostly because of his terrible reasoning for not voting BC/me) tbh: you're still a candidate even though you vote for me.
mig might be a target, i mean he's a strong townread, but usually I don't like to kill vets day1.

it's a huge group right now, but i hadn't had the time to separate bad townies from scum.
If I reread the whole thread, the list might change a lot.

But i'll write some cases up in the next couple of hours and I want to disuss this especially with BC.

Grackaroni, Coagulation, Hopeless, Storrzerg, Hiro/thrawn, Risen, kushmasta, Pandain, and Mig (he corrected in the next post Mig is not a townread but strong scumread).

Next thing he does is he starts asking people to give +/- on those people. Some people answer, mainly Grackaroni. After some time supersoft says Pandain looks a bit better and he does want to give Mig another day, does not comment on any other of his candidates. So if we take out Pandain, the list looks like this:
Grackaroni, Coagulation, Hopeless, Storrzerg, Hiro/thrawn, Risen and kushmasta.

Then this piece of conversation happens:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:
My vote is still up in the air. If you can make a decent case for somebody being scum than I will move my vote. Right now I think you will lynch random inactives with a bad chance of flipping scum and then eventually, if no scum are lynched, you will get lynched for winning the mayoral race. At least Yamato's scum play is bad enough that he won't be accused.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 09:36 supersoft wrote:
okay lol so you're the deciding vote or what -_-

okay tell me your targets and I consider them.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 09:44 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:36 supersoft wrote:
okay lol so you're the deciding vote or what -_-

okay tell me your targets and I consider them.

I liked Artanis' points on Mocsta; that is honestly the best case in thread.

I honestly haven't been looking too hard into the thread but I think lynching one of Koshi/Rayn could be a good idea. Koshi has been playing scared and Rayn's HF push was bad. I also think he honestly might have slipped with how he handled the BH claim when asking him who he would lynch as mayor. He already said he would lynch Vayne so why ask for clarification all of a sudden if he wasn't reconsidering BH for mayor. (prefer Rayn lynch)

If it has to be an inactive, I think it should be hopeless.

Looking through Pandain's filter I dislike a lot of what he has said recently. I'm ok with leaving him alive I should be able to get a good grasp of his allignment by day2

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 09:47 supersoft wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:44 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:36 supersoft wrote:
okay lol so you're the deciding vote or what -_-

okay tell me your targets and I consider them.

I liked Artanis' points on Mocsta; that is honestly the best case in thread.

I honestly haven't been looking too hard into the thread but I think lynching one of Koshi/Rayn could be a good idea. Koshi has been playing scared and Rayn's HF push was bad. I also think he honestly might have slipped with how he handled the BH claim when asking him who he would lynch as mayor. He already said he would lynch Vayne so why ask for clarification all of a sudden if he wasn't reconsidering BH for mayor. (prefer Rayn lynch)

If it has to be an inactive, I think it should be hopeless.

Looking through Pandain's filter I dislike a lot of what he has said recently. I'm ok with leaving him alive I should be able to get a good grasp of his alignment by day2


alright i am filterin mocsta right now.

Does this sound legit to you? Grackaroni, one of supersoft's lynch targets tells him Mocsta is the best lynch according to Artanis' case. supersoft does not read Artanis' case, he has admitted that later on. He just says "okay i read my top scumreads target's filter, the target is btw someone who wasn't on my lynch list earlier, and i will not even look at the ready case there is, but don't worry, i read the filter, np ezpz there still 13 minutes to the lynch". Notice that here is also when austin suddenly makes a voteswitch onto VE like Vayne pointed out.

Then here is what happens next:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 09:52 supersoft wrote:
I am unsure... If I cannot find a proper target, I am going with Hopelessder or Coag...
I am rereading mocsta right now.
I also want to have a look at mattchew.

8 minutes before the lynch, has another target still, wants to look into Mocsta and Mattchew (who was not on the initial list aswell).
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 09:55 supersoft wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:52 supersoft wrote:
I am unsure... If I cannot find a proper target, I am going with Hiro* Hopelessder or Coag...
I am rereading mocsta right now.
I also want to have a look at mattchew.


and hiro.

Does he even read these filters because he has time to find new target compared to Mocsta all the time. I don't believe he is even reading Mocsta's filter because he just keeps on posting new targets instead of reading.
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 09:57 supersoft wrote:
okay i guess I'd kill mocsta. I believe he's scum. I am rereading him again.

Here he says he'd kill Mocsta. But notice the underlined. This is already backpedalling!

Then the time is up and VE is the mayor.

Pandain says he has a townread on Mocsta.
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:02 supersoft wrote:
On November 17 2013 10:00 Pandain wrote:
My town reads are usually right idk if that helps


Which posts give you that impression? We have 15 minutes until I probably have to decide. I doubt that VE shows up and even if he shows up, i guess he'll consider mocsta, too...

Another move that seems like backpedalling. Notice that Pandain is also a person that supersoft at least does not think is town because a while ago he was his scumread, yet he says "hey gimme some townie points on Mocsta".

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:03 supersoft wrote:
On November 17 2013 10:02 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 17 2013 10:00 supersoft wrote:
okay VE is mayor. He and I are tied since Grack switched to me and tied me up with VE.

He has 15 minutes to send the lynch or you have to.


thanks very helpful :D

This comment screams insecureness and fear. "Do i really need to decide the lynch if VE does not come back.. fuuuccckkkk". Also notice that supersoft is supposed to be rereading Mocsta's filter, yet he has time to post every other minute. Mocsta is his top scumread (apparently), yet he is not telling VE to lynch Mocsta in case he comes back.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Lynch: Skanjab1s

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 10:05 supersoft wrote:
okay i guess that's a solid lynchcandidate...

"OKAY I GUESS THAT'S A SOLID LYNCHCANDIDATE"?!?!!?!??! More like "phew.. i got out of this shitty situation". Fuck, Skanjabs is NOT even a scumread for supersoft. supersoft had 8 scumreads, Mocsta "#1", VE lynches outside his pool and it's a "solid lynchcandidate". WTF, ARE YOU OKAY WITH LYNCHING EVERYONE IN THIS GAME? This is fucking bullshit.

And what does he tell VE later on:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 20:56 supersoft wrote:
On November 17 2013 17:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Honestly I chose Skanjab1s because I expected more of him. I see now that he might have just been masoned with someone or something. But I like Skan and I really thought he'd play better. Incomplete information or whatever.

I'm moving on.


skanjab was a bad lynch. because we never talked about him at all. We have almost no information how people thought about him. We didnt even know that he was mason.

Mocsta would have been a better lynch, since we had many opinions on him.

Man, not even I filtered skanjab before you killed him.


But it's okay. Doesn't change the posotove pitcome of the votings. two townies in the office is a decent start.

BUT HE WAS AN OKAY LYNCH WHEN VE KILLED HIM???
Of course he was a good lynch because supersoft didn't need to squirm out of Mocsta lynch!!!
Now when Mocsta is under no pressure he was obviously a bad lynch and Mocsta was so much better! rofl.

Then suddenly, OUT OF NOWHERE, this:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 09:47 supersoft wrote:
oh fuck, i just realized i might die tonight, regardless of my two lives :D

I have an issue with Oatsmaster wait! i come up with some stuff i noticed, whe looking through his filter ^_^

Suddenly there is a big scumread on someone completely different from his lynch list. No filtering for his scumreds from D1, no Mocsta, apparently supersoft dropped all his scumreads from D1, even Mocsta who was totally scum, to find BAD OATSMASTER! resoning for Oatsmaster scumread is this:
1) Oats asks a lot of questions and posts many onliners and has no thoughts - that's what Oats always does, and he has had thoughts.
2) Oats has an assassin read on VE - guess fucking what VE was?




So yeah, as a TLDR;
  • On D1 supersoft has 8 scumreads. Instead of finding a lynch in them, he listens to his scumreads and ends up on "Mocsta is scum" because his scumread tells him to look into him!
  • Grack even provides a ready case on Mocsta, supersoft does not look that at all (keep in mind he has 5 minutes, and thinks filtering Mocsta is better than looking at the complete case).
  • He filters Mocsta (yet he has time to post between filtering) and says "he is the best lynch" but already provides an out for himself by saying "i'm still rereading him".
  • I don't believe he actually did filter anything because he had time to post every other minute during the lynch.
  • I don't believe he actually wanted to lynch Mocsta at all because every post he makes during the lynch provides him an out to not lynching Mocsta if needed.
  • He tells VE Skanjabs was a good lynch when VE kills him, after the heat is not on Skanjabs was suddenly a bad lynch
  • After this all of his scumreads go away and suddenly there is Oats, and a terrible case.


What has supersoft done after this and after N1:
  • Tunneled Oats for shitty reasons
  • Acted like a baby because rayn post so much boo hoo (notice even lurkers like Hopeless are perfectly capable of posting good analyses)
  • Said BH needs to be lynched but when he flips assassin RAGES because we should have not lynched him.
  • Tried to take towncredit from Mocsta flipping scum (lol wut?)
  • Did i already say acted like a baby because rayn posts so much?


So yeah, the only thing people can even remotely think supersoft is town is because he said "i guess i will lynch Mocsta". If someone is considered town because of one comment like that (which i have pointed out is fucking fishy in the first place) i might aswell give up this game. Everything else supersoft has done this game has been HELLA SCUMMY!

Notice also that we are talking about a guy who is supposed to be a town leader. He's fucking vet who is considered really good at this game, yet he is plaing like absolute shit, and not only shit, but SCUMMY!

Lynch supersoft the mafia pardoner on D3, let's burn his pardon down and lynch him again on D4.
Also lynch austin as a second lynch on D3.

Thank you for listening.


rayn goes from
austin
austin
austin
austin
austin
austin
austin 100% certain
austin 100% certain

DOUBLE LYNCH SUPERSOFT/SUPERSOFT
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