TL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 24

On November 20 2013 05:44 Koshi wrote:
rayn wants to lynch all the vets.

On November 20 2013 05:49 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm on my phone so I can't quote.

I say SS lynch targets bad/SS bad scum hunter.
SS asks me who he should look at instead.
I say Mocsta case is best case.
SS filters Mocsta.
SS declares he will lynch Mocsta.

He'd have to be Risen to do that as scum. He could just ignore me as a troll or say he didn't want to lynch Mocsta.

On November 20 2013 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
That's the thing about this BH lynch that bugs me. Nobody is specifically going to gain any town credit for it but there is a lot to lose from it if he is actually scum (a potential power role, an extra person dragging the scum kp closer to 1). Why would he make such randomly shit lying plays?

Can someone answer when specifically he unclaimed tracker? Was it after the 2 trackers got revealed or before?

On November 20 2013 06:00 Pandain wrote:

Seems fine to me ESP when you think about information you're ignoring

On November 20 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Might aswell put this here:

Pandain:

I don't like this post at all:


Earlier on he "called Mocsta out" for his bad case on Storr. But he uses same (invalid) evidence in calling Storr scum (the newbie-card, which Storr never actually used). Also his stance on Hopeless is shit and what he says does not make Hopeless scum.



Does not want to vote for VE for mayor because "he might end up lynching non-scum". But earlier on he said VE is better analyst than yamato, and said mayor should be selected by not looking only D1 lynch and who is better analyst overall. Contradicting himself.



Now Storr is town because he is playing the noob card so much. But he was just scum for it?



Another bad justification for scumread on Hopeless.

Then there is this BH claim thing. I kinda get Pandain from town pov from that whole mess. What i don't get is that he attacks me "for believing BH's claim" which i definitely did not do, then he wastes a fuckton of posts in arguing about the claim, useless. Also does not attack Grack who actually DID say he believed BH's claim lol.

"You can never read me as scum Rayn, you have never been close to lynching me." -> This is completely incorrect, in Thug life i told Koshi to shoot Pandain and he did (we were too busy lynching other scum), in Hogwarts i figured Pandain was scum on N1, had no time to lynch him, but saying i can't read him is wrong. This is a kind of defense Pandain uses as scum, saying things like "I have literally been town the whole game" or "You can't possibly think i am scum". Yes that's what he actually says as scum when someone accuses him.

"I think Vayne is scum he's playing like ##." Vayne is playing nothing like in ##.

Interestingly enough Pandain trust supersoft as 100% town as he has masoned him, but supersoft calls Pandain definitely scum in one of his last posts before D1 end.

Pandain's read on me is terrible. He never explains why he thinks i am scum. Last game where i was actually scum Pandain made a big case on me so i would think he feel comfortable in reading me if he is town (while the case was in fact bullshit). Instead of making a case he gives no reasoning but keeps on saying "i could support rayn lynch the most".

Pandain's case on BH regarding BH's claim is terrible. Honestly, it's so really bad. Then suddenly, when BH "un-claims" he staright out believes BH to be town for that.. Suddenly he has a scumread on Oats, he has never mentioned Oats before in this game. Read on Austin is "austin's been fine, he's been pushing people and giving opinions", unfortunately that does not mean anything at all - and austin has NOT been pushing people.

He says this about BH: "Based on his fakeclaim alone he's actually town. There are better places to argue now"
So in case he knows BH is fakeclaiming he can say anything he wants about BH (which he did, like 3 pages of his filter) - and when BH unclaims he can just flush it all away with this. Nothing matters any more. Good plan if they are scum or if Pandain believed BH was fakeclaiming in the first place (he called BH's claim fake in the first place so this actually is true in any case lol). After this he defends BH's original claim (why would scum claim 6h before the deadline) - but earlier on he attacked BH for same reasons?



This post is totally wrong, supersoft was not "basically mayor already", supersoft did not "want to lynch Mocsta", supersoft brings Mocsta up AT THE FIRST TIME IN HIS FILTER 3 minutes before the deadline!!!! Supersoft has not done ANY analysis at all, his filter is shit. This post is totally misleading analysis of supersoft.

Then there is this "this makes Onegu scum but he is town" analysis.

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TLDR; Pandain's reasoning for his reads makes no sense at all. His play is all over the place and there is no direction. There is no logical train of thought and he seems to be trying to achieve nothing besides just saying stuff for sake of saying stuff. This all have i said before lol. ^^ And like i said before, he is scum.

* Post numbers before comments are the post numbers in thread.

On November 20 2013 06:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
I see a bunch of quotes and an emphasis on "BC no like trolls".

Well done Pandain;

@Rayn
How certain are you that BH is scum? I read through your case on Pandain and the parts about BH are similar to my own thoughts - Pandain is all over the fucking place. I'd say its in a way that doesn't look like a bus. I dont think BH is scum, there I said it.

On November 20 2013 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
Can someone answer when BH unclaimed tracker? Was it after 2 trackers were revealed or before?

On November 20 2013 07:05 Pandain wrote:


You should honestly be lynched tomorrow I think you're being purposely retarded

On November 20 2013 07:10 Pandain wrote:


No I called you out because I thought you instinctually believed a retarded claim.

Now I call you out because you say that it was never a real claim when it was.

On November 20 2013 07:13 Pandain wrote:


IT WAS A REAL CLAIM. It was made with the intention that it was to be taken seriously. But it was false in its accuracy.

No one is saying that he's going to flip tracker

On November 18 2013 16:18 Blazinghand wrote:
Well I hate to say it to you grack but that breadcrumb was by far the shittest bread crumb i've ever claimed to have, including the "squm" crumb. Like ok for real 1) "hey" is not a bread crumb 2) the amount of work it took to make "sock-head" into "cop" (which, by the way, isn't even tracker) was phenomenal. I was just making fun of the pant-head meme. The fact that anyone even believed it for a second is just... well it's something all right.

On November 20 2013 07:15 Pandain wrote:
By real claim I mean it was a claim meant to be taken seriously.

On November 20 2013 07:15 Pandain wrote:
Rayn.
I can't get any clearer then this statement.

BH told Thrawn it was a legitimate breadcrumb. What is your response to that.