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On November 23 2013 07:03 thrawn2112 wrote: hey whats going on? what's happened in the last ~ 50 pages? and can someone kindly tell me who all has been calling me mafia recently? Nobody except some guy. I know rayn is scum. Can you sheep me this game? | ||
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On November 23 2013 07:08 thrawn2112 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2013 07:04 Koshi wrote: On November 23 2013 07:03 thrawn2112 wrote: hey whats going on? what's happened in the last ~ 50 pages? and can someone kindly tell me who all has been calling me mafia recently? Nobody except some guy. I know rayn is scum. Can you sheep me this game? have you read our qt logs in their entirety? i'm deferring to my instincts here, especially after my BH mason experience. but please explain your reasoning, I am intrigued It's in the thread. D: Basically it is because he is on too many people that could be scum. It's simply doesn't compute. If rayn knows somebody is scum he knows why, but this game he has so many 100% scumreads but he keeps finding new ones. Even after the 6 names he gave on Day 1 (Holyflare, Koshi, Sharrant, supersoft, Pandain, Grack) he just keeps finding 100% scums. D2 there was BH, Austin and BC. Day 3 we have had SS, LM, Alakaslam. All these reads I have as town. Except for Holyflare D1 ( but did he really push Holyflare to get lynched? He says he told Yamato but not he didn't.) and then BC (who rayn NEVER gave 1 reason for why he is scum except "pushing grack as mislynch) and on D3 when he should have been pushing BC he made that super big case on SS. ____ Another big reason is that he as "town" leader, keeps jumping from target to target, which makes town extremely nervous because as you can see nobody sees rayn as scum and town eats out of his hand. D1 I said that rayn was scum and that he was pretending to have reads so he could be more active if needed, but that his reads were fake reads. I told the thread and it was the first case I made on rayn 24 hours in the game. Look what happened D2/D3. Only SS read stayed... But anyway, as town leader he is jumping from target to target always finding the next Holy Grail to why somebody is scum, he tells the thread with big posts why these people are scum. But eventually he moves off these people and never gives big reasons why. rayn has not confirmed 1 townie using logic this game. He bluntly says some people are town, but never uses any form of logic to help the thread understand why somebody is town. Never. __ There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me? | ||
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I am pretty sure rayn/holyflare/BC is the core of the scumteam. | ||
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Sheep the Koshi. | ||
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On November 23 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote: Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now? Show nested quote + On November 23 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote: There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me? Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn Can you just sheep me and love me afterwards? | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:26 Risen wrote: EBWOP: I'm conflicted here because I am not fully satisfied with the Pandain/ss resolution. HF is scum but there aren't many people on him. Oats is scum but there aren't that many people on him. Thrawn train could get rolling but I'm liking his posting here, but then he's just saying logical things without actually putting in effort and so is probably scum. I can't even remember BC posting anymore, so he's probably scum just keeping quiet so he doesn't incriminate anyone on his team. How many scum players are there? I'm quickly wracking up too many names. LM is close to the lead and I can't remember why... which is bad since he's the mason who lurked. Rayn is a lylo lynch for sure but I mean he's got so much filter and he's made cases, that's good enough for me not to vote him right now. It's going to get harder and harder to fake cases as the game goes on and he'll slip up while drunk or something. On November 22 2013 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2013 04:00 Koshi wrote: On November 22 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Koshi you have 12 scumreads? Could you give your list towny town: leaning town: leaning scum: scummy scum: Could you give your list towny town: Grackaroni, Vayne, Mig, Holyflare leaning town: Hopeless, Oats, Onegu, Coag, austin, Mr.CC, Slamdunk leaning scum: Pandain, supersoft, Risen scummy scum: Cobbler, LM No idea: Koshi, thrawn I know one of my "leaning scum on" list dudes is probably worng because it does not make sense otherwise. This are rayns reads from page 32 out of his 35 pages filter. Do you see how his vote is not on BC but that he has done nothing to prevent BC lynch? Don't you people remember rayn has been saying BC is scum for so many hours now? Basically since D2. Are you people fucking kidding me? This is town rayn? No it fucking isn't. | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:33 Risen wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2013 08:29 Koshi wrote: On November 23 2013 08:26 Risen wrote: EBWOP: I'm conflicted here because I am not fully satisfied with the Pandain/ss resolution. HF is scum but there aren't many people on him. Oats is scum but there aren't that many people on him. Thrawn train could get rolling but I'm liking his posting here, but then he's just saying logical things without actually putting in effort and so is probably scum. I can't even remember BC posting anymore, so he's probably scum just keeping quiet so he doesn't incriminate anyone on his team. How many scum players are there? I'm quickly wracking up too many names. LM is close to the lead and I can't remember why... which is bad since he's the mason who lurked. Rayn is a lylo lynch for sure but I mean he's got so much filter and he's made cases, that's good enough for me not to vote him right now. It's going to get harder and harder to fake cases as the game goes on and he'll slip up while drunk or something. On November 22 2013 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: On November 22 2013 04:00 Koshi wrote: On November 22 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Koshi you have 12 scumreads? Could you give your list towny town: leaning town: leaning scum: scummy scum: Could you give your list towny town: Grackaroni, Vayne, Mig, Holyflare leaning town: Hopeless, Oats, Onegu, Coag, austin, Mr.CC, Slamdunk leaning scum: Pandain, supersoft, Risen scummy scum: Cobbler, LM No idea: Koshi, thrawn I know one of my "leaning scum on" list dudes is probably worng because it does not make sense otherwise. This are rayns reads from page 32 out of his 35 pages filter. Do you see how his vote is not on BC but that he has done nothing to prevent BC lynch? Don't you people remember rayn has been saying BC is scum for so many hours now? Basically since D2. Are you people fucking kidding me? This is town rayn? No it fucking isn't. So... what do you want? BC/rayn lynch? YESSSS SINCE FOREVER. | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:38 Risen wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2013 08:34 Koshi wrote: On November 23 2013 08:33 Risen wrote: On November 23 2013 08:29 Koshi wrote: On November 23 2013 08:26 Risen wrote: EBWOP: I'm conflicted here because I am not fully satisfied with the Pandain/ss resolution. HF is scum but there aren't many people on him. Oats is scum but there aren't that many people on him. Thrawn train could get rolling but I'm liking his posting here, but then he's just saying logical things without actually putting in effort and so is probably scum. I can't even remember BC posting anymore, so he's probably scum just keeping quiet so he doesn't incriminate anyone on his team. How many scum players are there? I'm quickly wracking up too many names. LM is close to the lead and I can't remember why... which is bad since he's the mason who lurked. Rayn is a lylo lynch for sure but I mean he's got so much filter and he's made cases, that's good enough for me not to vote him right now. It's going to get harder and harder to fake cases as the game goes on and he'll slip up while drunk or something. On November 22 2013 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: On November 22 2013 04:00 Koshi wrote: On November 22 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Koshi you have 12 scumreads? Could you give your list towny town: leaning town: leaning scum: scummy scum: Could you give your list towny town: Grackaroni, Vayne, Mig, Holyflare leaning town: Hopeless, Oats, Onegu, Coag, austin, Mr.CC, Slamdunk leaning scum: Pandain, supersoft, Risen scummy scum: Cobbler, LM No idea: Koshi, thrawn I know one of my "leaning scum on" list dudes is probably worng because it does not make sense otherwise. This are rayns reads from page 32 out of his 35 pages filter. Do you see how his vote is not on BC but that he has done nothing to prevent BC lynch? Don't you people remember rayn has been saying BC is scum for so many hours now? Basically since D2. Are you people fucking kidding me? This is town rayn? No it fucking isn't. So... what do you want? BC/rayn lynch? YESSSS SINCE FOREVER. Your case is awesome. I don't want to lynch rayn right now. I don't think we have the people to lynch rayn. I'm not as sure on rayn as I am about other people. BC needs to get lynched, we need to find out who the second lynch is going to be asap so we can start digging. Is it me? Bummer, but there's information to be gleaned from this. Look at Grack, he looks terrible in all this. Look at HF, even worse. Look at SS, my god holy shitballs awful. rayn is the most likely out of those 4 you name. HF is scum with him don't fucking worry. | ||
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You got me as town right? Could you sheep me and lynch rayn? I am really confident he is scum. | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:51 Risen wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2013 08:49 austinmcc wrote: I see Mig, super, pandain, HF, onegu at last votecount. onegu unvotes super unvotes pandain unvotes super votes again grack votes you should now be at mig, super, HF, grack. Rayn picked up 2 votes to go to 4. There are some other folks at 4 maybe or something. There are a bunch of unaccounted for votes (I have one of those). I am wrong, then. This rayn push concerns me. I think people may be riding Koshi to a mislynch. I also don't like how certain Koshi is of HF scum while pushing rayn so hard. Where is rayn? Have you considered that maybe HF feels comfortable with his vote on me because he doesn't think I'm going to be lynched and will attempt to mislynch me tomorrow or sometime in the future? Dude.................... If there is 1 lynch I am certain about it is the rayn lynch. | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you guys lynch me make it 100% sure to lynch Koshi after that because i hate him because he is so bad. I don't really care about this game any more because everyone is so bad. supersoft, Pandain and LM are so fucking scum yet you idiots vote for people because they play the game. Koshi shame on you, i hope you never try to tell people you can read me any more. Neber. Onegu is far better in that than yuou are. Now you can go die. I wont if you are town. But I have been right till now so I can perfectly say at this point I can read you. | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2013 08:58 Koshi wrote: On November 23 2013 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you guys lynch me make it 100% sure to lynch Koshi after that because i hate him because he is so bad. I don't really care about this game any more because everyone is so bad. supersoft, Pandain and LM are so fucking scum yet you idiots vote for people because they play the game. Koshi shame on you, i hope you never try to tell people you can read me any more. Neber. Onegu is far better in that than yuou are. Now you can go die. I wont if you are town. But I have been right till now so I can perfectly say at this point I can read you. stfu you are just bad. Why are you so fucking mad? I am just trying to play the damn game. You look fucking insanely scummy to me. | ||
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On November 23 2013 09:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2013 09:10 Koshi wrote: What has rayn done D3 except pick fights with me? I AM PICKING FIGHTS WITH YOU??!?!? AHAHAHAHAHAH! I am voting for scum, unlike you. LM and Pandain? No. | ||
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On November 23 2013 09:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: bye. Don't forget to vote yourself on the way out. | ||
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damned. | ||
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On November 24 2013 00:34 Mig wrote: Do we have any mason logs featuring LM somewhere? Yeah I posted some. | ||
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On November 21 2013 00:46 Koshi wrote: Not much. But our QT. LM & Koshi + Show Spoiler + LoneMeow and Koshi mason Day 2/Night 2 Koshi: Hi Stray Kitten. Koshi: So, is this about me proving to you that I am town? Or you proving to me that you are town? Or both? Or is this just about scumhunting together? Or thrice? LM: This is about all three things, though right now *I* mostly care about figuring out your alignment. I'd like to hear about your thought process when you changed your mind about raynpelikoneet for starters. Koshi: Really don't understand why you don't post in the thread. So scummy. Koshi: Well. to be really honest. I thought rayn was scum for saying I was scum for starters. Also him not talking to me about my case on supersoft if he also had doubts on supersoft. Just strange. Then I just tunneled a bit on him and made cases so that others would also believe it and he would get lynched. Got to do something on D1 right. I am actually truly lost in bigger games on D1. Mostly in minis as well unless something scummy gets smacked in my face. But atm he might be town. Unless he is in a scumteam with Grack. Because they are pushing same agenda atm. Also might explain why he forgot Grack earlier in the game when he gave 5 names and then added Grack when somebody asked him about it. So unlikely rayn. But yeah, I kind a want to lynch BH atm. 120 hours should be enough for town BH to actually find scum. So we lynch BH and the next day lynch his scumreads if he actually is town. Sounds like a perfect plan. Koshi: Got to try and make VE use the double lynch as well. Koshi: If we lynch BH. LM: If we go for double lynch now and BH flips red, do you think we have 2 solid enough targets for the double lynch tomorrow? Who would you propose at this stage as the 2 next likely scum? Koshi: It is still a very long time till D3 lynch. And there are always people we want to lynch. Koshi: If BH is red I need to ask Alakaslam what he said about BH & VA scumteam for examples. Koshi: Also, you really need to post in the thread. Soon I will reveal this QT between us if you don't post in the thread. If you post in the thread I can keep it a secret. If you want that. You were heavy lurk in Hogwarts and I dislike people trying to win people over in a QT. Yamato being town and covering for you does make you look good. But I don't like it why you don't show that to the thread. Koshi: I totally crumbed that we were in a QT. for funzies. Where are you m8? LM: Having a terrible afternoon at work. As much as I hate defending myself with meta, I also hate it that you keep cherry picking my lurk in Hogwarts while ignoring that I played more or less exactly the same in LXI as town. Also, it's not like I especially want to keep my choice of mason target for today secret. What would it take from BH for you to want to lynch someone else? Koshi: Probably will lynch BH no matter what. Unless he really shows he figured out the game or is trying. Koshi: I know you also played extremely lurky in LXI. You need to post otherwise people will always think you are scum. It's how it is. LM: Do the other lurkers usually play lurky as either alignment? Those being Stutters, Mr. CheeseCake and Coagulation mainly, I suppose. Koshi: Stutters is always lurky. But this is a new level ofc... CC was town in Noir and was semi active (13pages). CC was scum in Aperture and was semi active (14 pages). Him doing absolutely nothing is new to me. Coag is somebody I don't know. I guess I have played games with him but I forgot. LM: Do you think this lurkiness in those players may be alignment indicative or not? LM: Also, would you agree that Alakaslam is probably town? He looks like the usual overly paranoid Slam to me rather than scum pushing agenda. Koshi: Depends if BH is scum tbh. I don't know why he is suddenly going crazy and attacking rayn Koshi: Btw, Vayne thinks you are scum and he is looking townie. You might want to mason him tomorrow. LM: I kind of noticed VA wanting to lunch me. I have kind of accepted my fate, but I might mason him anyway. In the land where meta rules, you're not allowed to try to improve What's your opinion on Mig? I thought he was town, but his reads have been pretty non-existent and apparently he's supposed to be some kind of experienced player... LM: Reading through Mocsta's filter I noticed he spent quite a few posts defending Sharrant. I'd like to hear your opinion on those posts. LM: After re-reading Alakaslam's filter, I'm no longer at all sure he's town. That 180 on raynpelikoneet is just ridiculously quick... Koshi: Bot Mocsta and Sharrant already flipped m8. I don't know what you want me to say... You being a suspect for lynching has nothing to do with us not wanting you to improve. That's silly to suggest. You can also not blame us for using meta on you because you are a low volume poster. If you would break out with a 5-10 page filter this game we wouldn't be able to use meta. But just like in noir and Hogwards you have a 2-3 page filter. Best way to show thread that you are playing this game on D3 is to make a list with all players and give your honest opinion about them. Because to me it looks like you are pretending you are scumhunting but not really doing anything. You told me you wanted to know my alignement by Masoning me, did you figure it out? You asked 1 question? You asked me questions about the lurkers/afkers, did you figure it out? There is never a conclusion to your questions and we all love to know where you stand. LM: Oops, that's what I get for staring at a filter for too long I suppose. My point with the meta was that two games does not really establish any kind of statistically meaningful dataset to compare against. I'm pretty sure I'll get lynched for posting an "useless list post" but sure, I'll do that. Sadly it'll be full of "not sure, null" entries because I honestly don't have a good idea of the alignment of most players in this game. If BH flips red you're definitely town, if he flips something else I suppose I'd still think you likely town. Koshi: Yeah, if you don't have an idea about more than 10 people than you better just concentrate on your scumreads. Those 4 names you gave are not too shabby. Make cases around the 3 that will be alive tomorrow and I am sure you will stay alive if they are good. Koshi: Just Mason VA tommorrow and you will be all right. Unless you went cutiepie on the Sharrant mistake I think you are town. LM: Penny for your thoughts on HolyFlare? The mason log he posted makes him look better and austinmcc look worse to me, but that's the exact opposite of my previous reads so I need to think about this. Koshi: When reading that big ass post from Holyflare I only paid attention to Holyflare tbh. I think he is town, but it all depends a bit on BH flip on what I will do tomorrow. If BH flips town I need to look at Grack, thrawn, BC, alakaslam, etc. If BH flips red I just sheep rayn till he is wrong or I find something really good. I also still find it interesting that Sharrant, StorrZerg & Spag died over vets like BH, SS, VE, Mig, BC etc. Just strange, especially that insane doc Sharrant kill. Quite sexy read. Just like the shot on Mocsta. LM: Do you think getting rid of both assassins was beneficial for town? Koshi: No it's bad for town, they wont tank any shots now. But BH was a good lynch, he could have easily flipped scum. VE was a bigger loss but now we understand why he was going after Skanjab D1... | ||
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