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On November 18 2013 12:19 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 08:41 thrawn2112 wrote: panda i'll vouch for bh. he's been townily cooperative in mason chat Can you talk about your mason chat now?
what do you want to know about it? there are some things we talked about that i'd really rather not reveal but the gist of it is that he started off acting very wtf, so wtf that it's hard for me to see it coming from a scum bh. the rest of it was us talking about reads... in a one on one conversation I'd like to think that I'm pretty qualified to know if BH is being straight up with me, and he seemed like he genuinely wanted to talk about who is scum.
On November 18 2013 12:26 Pandain wrote: It's not like scum only say scummy things and he has been more scummy then he has townie. He basically said Grack was scum(easy bait), cast slight suspicion on Yamato, and actually noting this it's pretty obvious he didn't do any analysis because he only went after notable people. And people who have been talked about before.
You also still think Austin is scum and didn't explain
can you explain your read on grack since you're going to call him lynch bait?
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On November 18 2013 12:33 Pandain wrote: Austin has been fine. He has been pushing people and giving opinions and putting effort in. Without him thread would probably have like 20 pages less. tell me what you think about this
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OATS and KOSHI i'd like to have a chat with each of you
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On November 18 2013 12:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote: BH is likely red given the fact 3 trackers would be a bit much. Also given his insane lack of serious contributions this game would put him very likely in the scum camp.
you think BH as scum just lol-claimed tracker D1?
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On November 18 2013 12:47 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 12:45 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 18 2013 12:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote: BH is likely red given the fact 3 trackers would be a bit much. Also given his insane lack of serious contributions this game would put him very likely in the scum camp.
you think BH as scum just lol-claimed tracker D1? He's claimed survivor and cop before in scum games.
were those similar to this game's claim?
and please get to my post about austin
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On November 18 2013 12:48 Hopeless1der wrote: So...Hi, I'm back. Whats up. hopeless!
i wanna get this out of the way now... if you're town i'd really like not to have a repeat of how you played in WC2. alright? this post was a whole hell of a lot meaner before I edited it but I'm sure you know exactly what i'm talking about
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On November 18 2013 13:00 Hopeless1der wrote:yes thrawn, though i must say i'm off to a terrible start. Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 09:37 Blazinghand wrote: I am tracking Austin. If I die id put him and grack as top reads.
my read on yam is conditional. I left some reasoning with my mason partner since if I reveal what I think about yam meta he will game it. What did BH say about yam that he's referring to here?
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why does it matter?
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we were discussing who I shoudl mason next, BH had reservations about yamato, so I was going to mason yamato and try to see if he starts acting high and mighty, insulting me, declaring himself #1 scum hunter etc. if so then he'd probably be town.
that is the "info" BH left with me
but still, why would it matter? yam has already flipped
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On November 18 2013 13:16 Hopeless1der wrote: thats sounds like a reasonably helpful thing for bh to say. You were saying he was townily compliant or something like that. How do you treat his claim?
On November 18 2013 12:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
what do you want to know about it? there are some things we talked about that i'd really rather not reveal but the gist of it is that he started off acting very wtf, so wtf that it's hard for me to see it coming from a scum bh. the rest of it was us talking about reads... in a one on one conversation I'd like to think that I'm pretty qualified to know if BH is being straight up with me, and he seemed like he genuinely wanted to talk about who is scum.
the bolded. that's all I have to say about that. BH can talk about his claim if he wants
lol I don't understand what the point of this conversation is. why are you asking me these things?
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On November 18 2013 13:23 Hopeless1der wrote: I cant be sure that you think he's town or scum and I'm trying to figure it out. I'm also trying to get a handle on what the hell he's done so far.
lol have you read my filter? do you *really* not know what my read on BH is?
what is your read on me? and how does that read influence your read on BH based on what I've said about our mason chat?
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BC you spent a lot of time digging into moc's filter and came away with basically only town reads. Is your conclusion that scum are probably people he didn't talk about?
And what do you make of this conversation between myself and hopeless? Idk wtf he is trying to accomplish
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On November 18 2013 13:31 Hopeless1der wrote: i dont know what my read of you is yet, but its leaning scum right now from how evasive you are being. A bunch of trackers flip and you can't be bothered to rethink whether BH is faking shit. I ask about information HE says he left with YOU and you're all, nah bro dont worry about it. dafuq
LOL wtf... did you read my post? I even quoted it for you in case you missed it the first time around. I think BH is town for reasons I gave. tbh I don't give a fuck whether or not BH's claim is true because my read on him has nothing to do with that and BH has the most insane track record in regards to crazy shit he will claim
and wtf how am I being evasive.. I told you exactly what he and I discussed concerning yamato. did you also forget to read that? and FFS hopeless whatever plan BH and I had to try and read yamato isn't even fucking relevant anymore
what's your read on BH? you didn't answer that part
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lol goddammit hopeless. do you remember WC2? you were the only person I had a correct read on at the end of the game so please if you are town.... go find that hopeless and sit him down in front of your computer
On November 18 2013 13:39 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm awaiting his return to find out what his "track" results were.
so you're saying you don't want to continue this conversation about BH that you were so eager to have...
well... then what can we talk about? who do you want to die? I kinda want to double lynch so which 2 people would you kill in that scenario?
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hopeless remember the first thing I said to you this game? about not being a lazy fuck? well are you town?
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On November 18 2013 13:47 Oatsmaster wrote: ##vote BH
HEY OATS
how's it goin? fun game so far?
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I am?
-you start a pointless convo with me -you ask even more pointless questions after I respond -I ask you for your conclusions based on my answers -you don't really have any?
ffs dude
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On November 18 2013 13:52 Oatsmaster wrote: So rayn, the thing with me is that I think Koshi is town. So far when both of you are town, koshi can read you properly. So that means you must be scum right? Nope, I think you're town too. So its a bit weird.
hey can you explain your koshi town read? I instantly recognized him as 100% conftown in WC2 and i'm not getting that same feeling here. do you know what I'm talking about? rayn touched on some of it earlier
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On November 18 2013 13:53 Oatsmaster wrote: Hi thrawn, how is BH town?
uh I'd assume one becomes town by getting a town role pm
I've already explained why but I'm tired of doing so. He told me something in regards to his tracker claim that made me think he's town, and I'm gonna leave it to him to decide if he wants to share that with everyone else. I don't really trust people on TLmafia not to lynch him for what he told me lol
BH get in here this is annoying
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On November 18 2013 13:57 Hopeless1der wrote: you'll recall i scummily cited "internet problems" and "the weekend" for inactivity excuses. I'm sorry I havent been furiously typing away making the be-all-end-all case of the century. Oats is full of shit and I wouldnt mind seeing thrawn flip atm. But thats rage and indignation talking, not a real scumread. I'm going back to filters.
lol u mad? or you mad?
On November 18 2013 14:07 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 14:01 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 18 2013 13:53 Oatsmaster wrote: Hi thrawn, how is BH town? uh I'd assume one becomes town by getting a town role pm I've already explained why but I'm tired of doing so. He told me something in regards to his tracker claim that made me think he's town, and I'm gonna leave it to him to decide if he wants to share that with everyone else. I don't really trust people on TLmafia not to lynch him for what he told me lol BH get in here this is annoying lol come on dude. Dont you feel a responsibility to prevent what you think is a mislynch??
lol ok holy shit. bh told me he fake claimed because he knew he'd be busy soon and didn't want to be lynched. now personally I believe that, and I don't think a scum BH would actually say that to me. objectively it looks super scummy so that's why I didn't want to use that as reasoning for my BH town read, because i fear people here are dumb enough to lynch him for that.
so don't.
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On November 18 2013 13:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 13:33 thrawn2112 wrote: BC you spent a lot of time digging into moc's filter and came away with basically only town reads. Is your conclusion that scum are probably people he didn't talk about?
And what do you make of this conversation between myself and hopeless? Idk wtf he is trying to accomplish Very likely yes. He engages austin in personality 2 twice in very non confrontational posts then promptly ignores him for a few days. Anyone in the filter he partially interacted with and stress interacted with could potentially be red but it isn't a strong possibility.
I'm looking for you to come to conclusions on who these people are
On November 18 2013 13:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I think hopeless needs to honestly step up and honestly contribute something of value. His response to me of 2 days worth of reading summarized on 3 people in two sentences is god fucking awful.
lol to be fair I gave him town points in WC2 for similar play.. and he was town. at one point he actually told me he didn't care enough to play the game
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