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On November 15 2013 12:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Dang it Mocsta.
Well anyway I think some are mistaking sharrant for Storrzerg or Softiforget, because woah I did not see that coming
I don't comprehend the issue here.
I'm on a phone.
Are you going anywhere with this, or plan to keep make useless comments?
Ifyi there's some meta discussion going on with you.
I only read one newbie of yours in the past.
You seem to be more reserved this game, I.e. less stupid spammy.
No idea what that means. It's just a memory observation.
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On November 15 2013 12:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
No, sharrant is not notoriously difficult to read. What are you smoking?
Every game I played with him he has been mislynched.
Even as a cop.
I dunno what you have got up ya ass. But you need to remove it.
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On November 15 2013 12:40 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:39 Mocsta wrote:On November 15 2013 12:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
No, sharrant is not notoriously difficult to read. What are you smoking? Every game I played with him he has been mislynched. Even as a cop. I dunno what you have got up ya ass. But you need to remove it. how many games is every game?
Definitely 3.
Maybe 4.
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On November 15 2013 12:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wgere did mocsta go.
Also how the fuck is Hiro your top townread Austin..
I'm at work where tl is firewalled.
Be grateful I'm posting.
I'm actually under the pump today, but can't stop pausing every 15min to refresh.
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Sounds like classic town mattchew to me holy
Every game Matt suggests in town and then I build a case on him.
Pattern is repeating.
I suppose I would have preferred if he told me why his conclusion from a reread did. It align with mine. But then, that would be answering the heat for storrzerg.
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On November 15 2013 14:20 Holyflare wrote:
What does scum matt look like then?
To be honest. I dunno.
I'm. Not confident reading him because I naturally find him scummy.
Much like I'm not confident reading you after Hogwarts.
In voice mafia, scum mattchew is more aggressive than town mattchew.
I.e. he uses his knowledge advantage to become more useful
It's hard to say whether that crosses over to this game or is actually relevant.
Either way mattchew is a guy that yes needs to post more throughout the game but like sharrant. I think these types of players are coin flippy day1. Nothing wrong with pressure, but I wouldn't bank on a firm read either side.
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On November 15 2013 14:42 Holyflare wrote:
agreed
???
So what was the point of the call out and meta follow up, if you agree it doesn't support your conclusion.
To be frank. I find this suspicious regardless of Matt's alignment.
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VA seriously
That is not cool.
I don't five a fuck what alignment u r.
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On November 15 2013 15:10 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 15:09 Pandain wrote:
Grack to be frank I don't know why you seem so defensive; by defensive I mean you're hesitant to give town reads or commit to scum reads.
Your posting sometimes seems forced to me as well. Is something wrong? I don't have any strong scum reads. Maybe Mocsta is scum.
Stop talking smack
All I have seen from you are free town reads and zero accountability on scum reads.
If you want to insinuate I'm scum, man up and build a case.
Otherwise you are quickly rising to be my prime lynch candidate for mayor.
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s of players are coin flippy day1. Nothing wrong with pressure, but I wouldn't bank on a firm read either side.
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So are you like still serious about this StorrZerg thing? You mentioned it earlier and you don't seem super perturbed that he's not being talked about still...a little subdued. Walk me through it - what makes you so sure Storr is mafia?[/QUOTE]
What's there left to comment. Nobody supported it so...
I'm waiting for him to retort. Will be able to flesh it out more from there.
People don't agree now, but I caught zaragon in Hogwarts off his first three posts
Patience ser viscera.
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On November 15 2013 15:37 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm actually one of the few people not throwing out free town reads.
Disagree.
Everything you are doing is cockblocks.
And then hide behind pandain as the source of your scum reads.
You don't even comment if pandain is a strong town read for you to be able to share so strongly those reads.
So yes, I disagree vehemently
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On November 15 2013 15:48 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 15:44 Mocsta wrote:On November 15 2013 15:37 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm actually one of the few people not throwing out free town reads. Disagree. Everything you are doing is cockblocks. And then hide behind pandain as the source of your scum reads. You don't even comment if pandain is a strong town read for you to be able to share so strongly those reads. So yes, I disagree vehemently I don't see how any of that equates to always giving out free town reads but w/e.
Unless you are fixated on the descriptor "always" it should be quite clear.
Why cockblocks someone in the first place.
It's either be wise you are throwing caution or disagree.
You chose not to throw caution, so clearly must disagree.
Everytime you cockblocks, it's to try and crush someone's case/points on somebody. So clearly you disagree with the case.
If you had a null read on those people you would let them defend themselves.
Instead you are white knifhting for them.
So either you are town with a town read on particulars
Or scum that is too scared to push anyone.
So yes. I disagree vehemently.
You are giving out too many free town reads and further I find your posting forced.
At least in Hogwarts your uselessness could be hidden behind a carefree attitude.
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On November 15 2013 15:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm just asking if you're There's other scum in the game, so need to continue on.
suspicious after hearing what others have said - whether your read has been reversed or remained resolute. I see now that you aren't so eager to say one way or another. You need not worry about my patience.
Tell me all you think and feel about HolyFlare and Grackaroni please. Also vote for me to be mayor, it takes but a moment and the town will be better for it.
Actually.
I stand by my read.
I am more acknowledging I understand if others require more input before joining me.
Theres other scum in the game, so Need to continue on.
As for holyflare and Grack.
My thoughts on Grack are in the previous post.
As for holy, I'm not confident. I suppose null.He seems less pro town than Hogwarts which is a good thing. There he had a really strong day1 and was scum.
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My father said,
"Don't you worry, don't you worry, child.
See heaven's got a plan for you.
Don't you worry, don't you worry now."
Yeah!
I usually listen to you Kush -- even stand up for you when everyone wants to lynch you and I have a town read on ya.
Thanks for considering me on your list anways 
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On November 15 2013 18:34 OOHCHILD wrote:
Actually I take that back about wanting VE mayor. I looked through your filter ve and you didnt have anything to say about the case on rayne. Your only mention of it was to say super was "randomly attacking rayne".
It's unacceptable for the potential mayor to completely ignore the best case in the game on the scummiest player in the game.
What gives, ve?
Austin or mocsta one of these dudes should definitely be mayor unless ve takes a townie looking stance on rayne.
To pick your brain further.
Rayn: there is nothing in your filter that shows why you like the lynch.
The intensity above also feels like you have more than "+1" opinion.
Can you please walk me through where you are coming from.
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@Supersoft, - 2 questions
(1) Is VE still dodgy, or has artanis taken his stead?
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(2) What do you think of Hopeless1der?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Hopeless1der
I am aware that he was only present during the very early game where trolling is common; however, I find this quote unusual for town to make.
On November 15 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
VE you got some credentials? How many successful mayor campaigns have you run?
Maybe this is written very dry and the joke is going over my head; but I am interpreting this as giving contemplation to voting VE.
BTW, which occurs here:
On November 15 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 08:49 Coagulation wrote:On November 15 2013 08:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
Any campaign for kush gets a solid "yeah, no" from me. No offense to kush but I did kind of tell yamato i wanted to win. kush is really good at scum hunting actually. probably better than 90% of the players here. Hes just non communique *must...not...feeed....troll* ##Vote: VisceraEyes
My issue is that, I don't think a townie would given any sort of consideration to that criteria for considering a mayor.
Fact is, town want in a mayor someone they think is a good player + standing out as town + has identified why their lynch choice is a solid candidate.
You're a deep analyser of motivation; do you agree that the above is not evident in the mindset of Hopelss1der?
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On November 15 2013 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 22:49 Koshi wrote:On November 15 2013 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes Koshi he is town for masoning yamato. No, he is not town for masoning yamato. Or explain to me why it is litterally impossible for scum to mason yamato. Because it's really bad scumplay and Lonemeow as scum mason would have gone into scumchat and asked what to do with the mason instead of picking someone, especially yamato, from the playerlist.
I don't think masoning yamato is *that* big a deal.
He said early game he might not be able to devote full attention to this game.
Having said that: LoneMeows reasoning detailed above, I suppose is townie by virtue of: claims that are so far-fetched/stupid are usually from town (i.e. scum try to have claims that are *too* perfect)
In the end, I hope LoneMeow is active this game, I dont want to be put in that mislynch scenario again... *sigh*
So, if worse comes to worse with lone, then considering yam is a fairly strong town read for me currently. I would probably defer to his judgement based on the mason logs.
LoneMeow
Is it safe to assume you have caught up on the thread?
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On November 15 2013 22:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
HF campaign was null. I have already said my views on this.
Agreed.
Probably the worse thing about is, was that it was verbose.
I would have thought that if Rayn had a genuine read on HF due to the campaign, he would have filter-dived him by now and generated something.
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On November 15 2013 22:57 Holyflare wrote:@Mocsta's post/rest of the game (I think artanis said the same things I said about rayn at some point too?) I'm sorry, what, the past few pages have been literal reitterations of what I've already stated, how is this anything new?? I get if you agree with what I've said Here for reference: + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 12:05 Holyflare wrote:fml I had to write this out twice because I had so many tabs open ~_~ @ rayn's post earlier: HereYou claim that my case was in fact bad but then you agree with everything that I had specifically laid out within it, what gives? Did you just not read it? Clearly there were no good reads at that present time and for a mayor to be established reads must be thrown around, which is exactly what I was saying. Your choice of mayor is based entirely off if you agree with their reads? Why? You also debase the entirety of it because of the one line that said if "I failed to lynch my top scum read S". The plurality in reads assumes that one would live past day 1 and be able to use their double voting power as you cannot lynch multiple reads on day 1. There is also: Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay ignoring Risen for the rest of D1. You were scum partners with risen in heavyweight. You know he is crazy and will literally do anything or write anything to win. How can you be so quick to have a town read on him based off of a post? He has won world champs and also has the "best mafia play" award or whatever. To quite openly say you will not read him for the rest of day 1 is making me apprehensive to say the least. ____________________________________________________________________________ @rest of the town Also some other things that struck me as odd; Hopeless' start to the game: Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
VE you got some credentials? How many successful mayor campaigns have you run? I've played one game with this guy and in that game (he was town) at the very start he was trying to contribute to current conversations and get things talking. This games start has been very lackluster from him. After asking VE about his past mayor games VE responds that he has been mayor once and he died night 1. By no means are they solid credentials in any terms. His contributions were just useless "won't vote for kush" posts. He then drops his mayor vote onto VE after hearing about his 1 game experience and leaves the thread. _____________________________________________________________________________________ I'm actually leaning a bit more suspiciously towards rayn right now; however I thought it was interesting to see these 2 posts just as I refreshed. + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:05 Risen wrote:
I'll vote anyone who makes their platform lynching rayn. You get modkilled for not voting. :p
What's wrongwith Oats this game? He's like a bit more dick than usually. On November 15 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Oats baby. Read my case again I gave one of stores first posts from Hogwarts. A similar sized game. He came out guns blazing. The analysis was wrong. But more importantly it was there, unlike this game.
Oats, shy are you so prickly this game.
Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous.Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E Obviously no associative tells between unflipped players yada yada but I find it "psychologically intriguing" when people bring up similarities like that. Obviously if you are scum, the posts that stick out to you the most are your scum partners and so you can subconsciously repeat them etc. However, this is a lackluster point to say the least just something I'd thought I'd note. but to copy it and make it look like your own thoughts and then ask people for their ideas on it is kind of a pain in the arse, at least give credit where credit is due
*scratches head*
OK, I will accept that tone for now; but in all seriousness, I didn't even know you wrote that.
I re-read the game and that was something that was sticking out for me.
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On November 15 2013 23:01 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 22:57 Mocsta wrote:
LoneMeow
Is it safe to assume you have caught up on the thread? Yes, I'm caught up now.
Anything sticking out to you worth discussing?
Do you have an opinion Storrzergs play?
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