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On November 16 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Here is why Holyflare is SCUM and should be lynched:*also elect me as mayor*Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 00:42 Holyflare wrote:On November 16 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You were implying i was scum earlier. I don't even know why because you never really told me. I made a whole post on you, it's not my fault if you haven't read it. About 3 people have copied it since then so it's no excuse. You disregarded risen after 1 post and called him town for NO reason (you have rectified this since then) and called my post bad (lol) because you misread what I intended. You jumped over me on a campaign that was better than the other campaigns currently put out which seemed irrational and scum raynish but you have backed off since then and started to develop other reads etc. 1) I have never ever in this game called Risen town. Whoever says so does not make it true. There is nothing to rectify because i have not done so. Oats for example did ask me about it and i clarified why i said i will ignore Risen on D1. After that it has not been brought up. You on the other hand still bring up how I CALLED RISEN TOWN (false) and then rectified my statement (false). I ahve not changed my mind on anything so you are making shit up. 2) I clearly stated why your campaign is full of shit. Everything you said in the campaign had been brought up earlier in thread and there is no reason to write fancy non-alignment indicative words because the only thing that matter is that the mayor lynches scum. Period. Therefore the campaign is shit. Do you think BC/yamato/supersoft/VE/me/etc etc are all scum and don't really want to be mayor? Are we running for mayor? Why do you think we are not writing fancy posts about our awesomeness and plans on lynching scum as mayor? Because it does not make it anyone any more town and therefore those kinda campaigns are shit and mean absolutely nothing. So why did you write that post again? 3) Now you are calling me town for my reads. But that was not the reason you called me scum in the first place (lack of reads). How does my reads (oh they were also weak with no reasoning according to you) make me suddenly town when the reasons you called me scum for were something completely different? You can't even fucking know if i am right or wrong in my reads if you are town. So it makes no sense. You are scum and making shit up.
You didnt actively call him town but you did say you would ignore him and won't consider him for now. I can see this being stretched to "calling risen town" but yes you never actually said those words. Ignoring a player in full though tends to make people think town read.
I don't think him having a non alignment indicative campaign is a bad thing. I would argue that making a "huge pro town" one is actually hard to do. Campaigns are required if someone seriously wants to be elected but past that their actions determine if they get elected. I would never elect HF based on his election post but I also wouldn't kill him for it.
Point 3 has a ton of merit and looks bad. I honestly prefer a grack / storr lynch at this point but if HF keeps this behaviour up we will have a solid #3 to the list
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On November 16 2013 01:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 01:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 16 2013 01:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Rayn. Only question I have for you on Risen. He has actively said he thinks your scum and should die. Why are you intent on leaving him alone day 1 (as well as defending him I might add) when he actively wants you dead? Because he wanting me dead does not make him scum. Im not saying it makes him scum but why are you fine with leaving someone alone who doesn't want you to live? I find your reaction to it strange. Risen can't possibly get me lynched when i am town and me arguing with him about it does nothing good because i am fairly sure we can't come to an agreement. So it's better for everyone if i let him do his own stuff, if he's town he will probably realize i am town at some point, if he is scum i don't know but we'll see about that later.
I would say the only issue I have with this is he doesn't need to get you lynched. He just needs to convince a player like me, yamato, etc...
Then we would get you lynched. Ignoring someone fully while sometimes understandable you realllly need to be clear why you are doing so when you first ignore them or it makes people question you.
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On November 16 2013 02:01 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 01:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
BC would you like to be mayor?
Also what do you think of Skan? Skan atm is a null read for me but he has said some really dumbass shit. Its not alignment indicative but if he keeps it up he will shift from null to red. He is leaning scum on two of my strongest town reads currently for no real reason on either. You should find better townreads then.
or you should be less bad? See how this game is played. How about you give me some real scum reads now rather than terrible ones.
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On November 16 2013 01:55 Koshi wrote:
Told you guys he would come back with a bang.
@BC
StorrZerg - Not enough content, don't understand why so many people are disappointed with him, because that is the main reason on why he is scum? Wasn't that incredible awesome in Hogwarts.
Grackeroni - Can lynch. Don't know if he would flip red. Truly useless. Don't know if he plays this game to find scum.
@rayn
Holyflare - I liked Holyflare his posts in Hogwarts on D1, don't like them now. Could be because he doesn't know the answers this game. Don't see why he is scummy.
dude my issue is I played with him near the beginning of TL mafia. My issue isn't his content it was the clear misrepresentation of his status. Hes not a newbie and hes trying to play on that to get elected. Why manipulate people into giving you something instead of proving yourself worthy of it.
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to add to my last post. He also plans on being inactive for the next few days which makes him a terrible choice to be mayor and he knows that.
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On November 16 2013 02:05 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 02:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 02:01 Skanjab1s wrote:On November 16 2013 01:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
BC would you like to be mayor?
Also what do you think of Skan? Skan atm is a null read for me but he has said some really dumbass shit. Its not alignment indicative but if he keeps it up he will shift from null to red. He is leaning scum on two of my strongest town reads currently for no real reason on either. You should find better townreads then. or you should be less bad? See how this game is played. How about you give me some real scum reads now rather than terrible ones. Says the guy who took a whole page to say that Grack likes to troll.
Go read my old games. You will notice my hatred of trolls is well founded, but I still read their posts as they tend to actually slip up. Trolling is never acceptable and the way he is doing it actively hurts the town. Trolling can still be done in a way that while annoying as shit benefits the town. He has done nothing that is good and all that is bad. Look at the way he does his trolling compared to the positive ways he could and you will notice my read is pretty well founded.
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On November 16 2013 02:08 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 02:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I troll and say nothing. BC says nothing but tries to fluff up his posts to make it appear like he is contributing more than he is. Which is scummer? The correct answer is: BloodyC0bbler! ##Vote: Yamato
Ive said quite a bit actually. Thanks for making me read from 95% to a full 100%
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On November 16 2013 02:12 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 02:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 02:05 Skanjab1s wrote:On November 16 2013 02:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 02:01 Skanjab1s wrote:On November 16 2013 01:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 16 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
BC would you like to be mayor?
Also what do you think of Skan? Skan atm is a null read for me but he has said some really dumbass shit. Its not alignment indicative but if he keeps it up he will shift from null to red. He is leaning scum on two of my strongest town reads currently for no real reason on either. You should find better townreads then. or you should be less bad? See how this game is played. How about you give me some real scum reads now rather than terrible ones. Says the guy who took a whole page to say that Grack likes to troll. Go read my old games. You will notice my hatred of trolls is well founded, but I still read their posts as they tend to actually slip up. Trolling is never acceptable and the way he is doing it actively hurts the town. Trolling can still be done in a way that while annoying as shit benefits the town. He has done nothing that is good and all that is bad. Look at the way he does his trolling compared to the positive ways he could and you will notice my read is pretty well founded. Your hatred of trolls is irrelevant. If your scum hunting is just long detailed out cases for people being trolls (which is essentially a policy lynch, not a scum lynch than you need to go. You want to look useful but you arent
I also pointed out points that make you scum. Perhaps you should read it more. I have clear points against you that are more than "he trolled"
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On November 16 2013 02:55 Grackaroni wrote:Friendly advice. It's best to include games from both alignments when trying to make a meta case 
I think you are red here, so compare this game to that game? Surprisingly they are very different. That is the "meta" case.
If I was having issues reading you I would deff have a list of games from both sides to compare to but I think I tagged you properly
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On November 16 2013 02:53 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 02:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You also haven't been very useful yet this game. Who do you think is scum? A lot of my thoughts are based off the only recent game I have played with people. Before BC's post I was most suspicious of Grack. Now I am concerned that BC wrote out 5 paragraphs on Grack's trolling. BC should know better. Grack is still shady tho and hasn't been nearly as confident with his plays as he was in white flag. Hopeless - Useless and already making excuses for inactivity. He was quite helpful and confident in white flag. Mocsta- the hunt scum/for scum is possibly the dumbest argument I have ever read for why someone is scum and really seemed like he was stretching facts to make a case.
BC is of the old school generation where you would post by post analysis. Sadly that means you will get a breakdown of virtually every post the guy has made when I make a case. It may make it long and wordy but at least you get my thought process in full.
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On November 16 2013 02:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Fair enough. He does seem to take the game a lot more serious there than he has been here. I checked White Flag out too though and he spent a good deal of Day 1 arguing about RNG lynching, here it was the mayor election. He was more proactive in both White Flag and Hogwarts than he has been so far though, I'll give you that. Why didn't you make this comparison immediately though? Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 02:53 Mig wrote:On November 16 2013 02:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You also haven't been very useful yet this game. Who do you think is scum? A lot of my thoughts are based off the only recent game I have played with people. Before BC's post I was most suspicious of Grack. Now I am concerned that BC wrote out 5 paragraphs on Grack's trolling. BC should know better. Grack is still shady tho and hasn't been nearly as confident with his plays as he was in white flag. Hopeless - Useless and already making excuses for inactivity. He was quite helpful and confident in white flag. Mocsta- the hunt scum/for scum is possibly the dumbest argument I have ever read for why someone is scum and really seemed like he was stretching facts to make a case. I like this post a lot. Similar thoughts on BC and Mocsta. Haven't had the experience with Hopeless yet, will look into him.
I honestly didnt notice it til after. I haven't read white flag, or hogwarts. I also don't tend to read games if I haven't played in them. At an attempt to not repeat mistakes of my last large game I was in I opted to attempt a new route given how badly my normal one was received.
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On November 16 2013 03:12 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 03:11 Pandain wrote:
I'm wondering if I should run for mayor if I can confirm myself as town
mmmm would you kill BC?
so aside from me as a scum read, what are your reads yo? Since being called out you still haven't done anything really but defend yourself and attempt to discredit me
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On November 16 2013 03:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
Still on phone. Artanis I thought I was in that game where you linked your disdain for SS' play (and he smurfed). I distinctly remember reading that before and agreeing that I felt SS was a little too abrasive at times but that it was his playstyle. I have him as null ATM because I consider him like yamato, a cranky, cocky sonofabitch who is difficult to reason with.
This deal with storr - in Hogwarts he asked some really dumb questions that resulted in him getting a townread from me. I don't find him playing the noob card to be that bad based on that experience. Its something he is trying to embrace and make a platform on to stand apart from the vets IMO. How else could he win against the likes of BC, SS, BH, Mig, etc?
I need to reread what HF has said about rayn unless someone else has found that rayn is correct and HF made up the part where rayn called risen town/ how that played out. Rayn is clinging to that part quite strongly.
when you get back you need to have sizably more than this. You really haven't touched base on stuff that needs to given how little your posting
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HF who do you think is scum now?
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Hey yamato. I know you like riding my dick and all (as fun as it is i do get a little tired)
You've had 6 hours and are apparently reading the thread. So how about you input on whats been going on rather than bashing one player for not agreeing with your terrible read.
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On November 16 2013 06:18 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 06:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On November 16 2013 06:07 supersoft wrote:
i suggest you reread the thread, convince yourself that I am town; and then you come back and we play as a team. Posts like this make me think Supersoft knows VE's alignment. at some point, i have to ram some posts into the ground. two posts are that VE is town and Yamato is town. I won't question these reads until something serious happens that rattles these reads
to be honest I can see yamato as town, i just don't think hes someone who should get elected. You / me / ve currently should be snagging those vests. I haven't seen anything out of yamato that says he should have extra night lives
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On November 16 2013 06:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
bl00oooo0oddyc00o0o0bler could you clarify why you chose grackaroni specifically to call out for trolling
hes clearly active while posting near no content while "appearing" to weigh in on things. I noticed he was doing it, watched, have seen 0 improvement and thus why I opted for him. hes given material to hang him with.
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hopeless having 0 input in this game with all appearances makes me a sad panda. Almost as sad as the lack of pandain
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On November 16 2013 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
PS I am now beginning to read the thread, but will also be checking here at the end of the thread if anyone has questions or concerns
you really should have read the thread before tossing out that campaign post. Just saying
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