I agree with Koshi that Rayn is mafia.

I don't think Mig your case is strong enough, they can be explained if BC is simply playing poorly and he did the game before he took a year long break for mafia. Isn't this his warm-up game? I played awful in golden sun, though I still do.

I think his anger was extremely genuine as well.

He could be mafia but I wouldn't lynch him today. I like Risen and Rayn better. I don't think town Rayn makes posts like this

On November 23 2013 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't care what someone has done in mason logsif it does not translate into the thread.

On November 22 2013 12:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well he claimed scum and he is a whiny little bitch so i guess a good lynch no?

On November 22 2013 13:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rofl wtf Pandain? Are you a vet or not?

On November 23 2013 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes i thouhgt Lonemeow was town. But then he fucking scumslipped. Am i not allowed to call him scum after that? What?

As for that last post, it's too defensive in terms of what he's doing. He found a scum slip, thinks LM is mafia, and then plays the "what I can't think this?" instead of "here is why he's mafia, dumbie"

Pandain

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November 22 2013 18:18 GMT

#5264

Also hopeless I thoroughly debunked your case in our mason chat

Pandain

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November 22 2013 18:22 GMT

#5270

I also think Rayn is arguing way too many choices when normally he would have a good understanding of who is probably scum during day three.

But maybe I think too highly of Rayn

Pandain

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November 22 2013 18:24 GMT

#5273

Oh god Rayn

Pandain

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November 22 2013 18:29 GMT

#5279

Mig sorry if you've said this before, but what do you think of Risen.

And I'll sheep you on BC.

Pandain

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November 22 2013 19:04 GMT

#5318

On November 23 2013 03:54 supersoft wrote:
Man I am playing one of my best towngames so far, I most likely blocked a bullet.
I have clean town/scumreads and some i don't know just yet.
Rofl.
How dumb are you guys?
like seriously?

This is me your either playing extremely good scum or extremely good town and no reason to lynch

Pandain

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November 22 2013 21:41 GMT

#5432

On November 23 2013 06:29 Coagulation wrote:

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HE SAYS YOU FAKED IT SS.

Alright you guys are retarded.

I'm the vet but there's no point to being the vet if scum knows you're the vet.

So I had already claimed to SS because I trust him, and he probably forgot to take it out since it was a one liner.

So I claimed that SS simply substituted my real role.

God

Pandain

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November 22 2013 21:42 GMT

#5433

Anyone should have realized my motivations

Pandain

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November 22 2013 21:44 GMT

#5435

Rayn, Coag, BC (trusting Mig), Oats (trusting SS), Lonemeow, Risen are my scum reads.

Pandain

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November 22 2013 21:53 GMT

#5444

What are the reasons for Rayn being town except for him posting a lot and making cases.

Pandain

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November 22 2013 21:55 GMT

#5449

No it's not because Rayn does that all the time as scum he just likes to post.

Pandain

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November 22 2013 21:56 GMT

#5450

Look at the people voting me lol
Hopeless1der, raynpelikoneet, Coagulation, Risen

That's your beacon of towniness?

Pandain

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November 22 2013 21:58 GMT

#5452

I haven't really read the thread nor want to honestly it's such a shit fest. I just know apparently holy is town because he's a two shot vig which is useful to know.

I thought Vayne was scum too but everyone thought he was town so I gave him up. I wouldn't want to vote him today anyway

Pandain

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November 22 2013 21:59 GMT

#5454

Coag how can you think I'm scum btw I want to hear your reasons

Pandain

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November 22 2013 22:03 GMT

#5460

On November 23 2013 07:01 Grackaroni wrote:

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I'm not sure. There's no cases to look at or any real reasoning going on at all right now in this thread.

Pandain why didn't you mason me this game?

I was going to but last two days I was comparing my reads to better players then me and today was going to find out if hopeless was scum but he's being a bit quiet and by that i mean he calls me scum and then leaves the qt

Pandain

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November 22 2013 22:03 GMT

#5462

I don't think Thrawn is scum either he was way too helpful and posty when he came back into the game. Him being afk the last5 50 pages doesn't mean he's scum.

Pandain

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November 22 2013 22:04 GMT

#5465

Mig I'm not going to lie I'm feeling uncomfortable lynching BC and I think you're going to end up being wrong. But I'll trust you if you're sure

Pandain

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November 22 2013 23:09 GMT

#5490

On November 23 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now?

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Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn

I also haven't done anything, doesn't mean I'm scum. You were extremely good day two when you replaced in and there's little reason to assume your scum in my eyes

Pandain

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November 22 2013 23:18 GMT

#5503

On November 23 2013 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote:

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But you didn't start doubting my alignment during this cycle? Ever? You didn't even answer the question, I'm trying to figure out what your thought process has been.

No there's bigger people to fry then a person who started being less townie then he was day two