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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 00:55 GMT
#4006
It's not like BH gives the most convincing Grack is scum speech in that QT.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 00:58 GMT
#4009
I am in no hurry.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 01:00 GMT
#4011
Like, I am pretty sure that thrawn started pushing Grack after BH was getting votes. While the Mason between then ended N1. Little things like that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 01:02 GMT
#4016
O rly VE. O rly.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 01:07 GMT
#4029
Yeah, no. BH needed to get lynched. He could just as easily have flipped red. He did the same thing in his last 2 scumgames. And which assassin claims assassin? Like really...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 01:12 GMT
#4037
On November 20 2013 10:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
who was the guy that was grilling me for saying that 1 non-town always gets one of the power spots? The trend continues

btw VA, make sure that you put some warm milk outside so the Stray Kitten comes to visit you tomorrow. Like, he could be town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 11:53 GMT
#4153
I am going over the playerlist hoping to put them in order but there are still way too many unknowns. I am running with supersoft as town because the Mocsta thing and because he didn't became Mayor and just general play tbh. rayn obvious town. I got Holyflare and Austin both as town. I don't see anything bad from them. Mig town. Kush town. Maybe a bit thread sentiment but I like them as town. LoneMeow also town, I will copy/paste our log later on. Putting Grack on town as well. Oatsmaster I don't know, looks like town Oatsmaster to me. I'll put VA here as well.

Artanis lowest townread because I don't really know why he is town except for the Mocsta thing. And why didn't Mocsta get angry at Artanis? Should reread.
Alakaslam his irrationallity around the BH lynch gives me instant flashbacks to Aperture...
BC could be scum. I dislike how he knew that both VE & SS were good and town candidates but is a lot less certain about anything else except Grack. I wouldn't kill him tomorrow though. I like reading his posts.
Pandain I got as town tbh but I put him with the doubties, there really isn't that much difference with Golden Sun for example. Maybe a bit more spammy. But I can sheep rayn on Pandain.
Thrawn I put as scummy in thread, willing to do a lot of shit in QT. But still mehhhh. For endgame creds I put him as scum.
Onegu is playing really well atm. If Holyflare flips scum I wonder if the guy is not playing too good... If Holyflare is town I am going to put Onegu there as well probably. Confident Onegu so crazy.

Hopeless1der I don't care about. Mr. Cheesecake I don't care about. Coagulation I don't care about.

Risen can die.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 11:55 GMT
#4154
^ I am going to go with 1 scum in my townreads, 3 scums in the middle and then 1 scum in the afkers.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 11:56 GMT
#4155
Hopefully Risen.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 12:52 GMT
#4157
On November 20 2013 21:09 OOHCHILD wrote:
@koshi what do you mean by you dont care about those people?

also im not convinced austin and HF are town.

also Artanis shot mocsta didn't he...

Can you read their filter and tell me they are town 100%? I can't and pretty sure it wont happen till end of game.

Hopeless and Risen both for their dumb stand on the BH lynch.
Would be happy with Risen lynch because biggest filter and therefore most nonsense.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 14:34 GMT
#4174
I would lynch Alakaslam and risen tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 15:44 GMT
#4199
On November 21 2013 00:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 20:53 Koshi wrote:
I am going over the playerlist hoping to put them in order but there are still way too many unknowns. I am running with supersoft as town because the Mocsta thing and because he didn't became Mayor and just general play tbh. rayn obvious town. I got Holyflare and Austin both as town. I don't see anything bad from them. Mig town. Kush town. Maybe a bit thread sentiment but I like them as town. LoneMeow also town, I will copy/paste our log later on. Putting Grack on town as well. Oatsmaster I don't know, looks like town Oatsmaster to me. I'll put VA here as well.

Artanis lowest townread because I don't really know why he is town except for the Mocsta thing. And why didn't Mocsta get angry at Artanis? Should reread.
Alakaslam his irrationallity around the BH lynch gives me instant flashbacks to Aperture...
BC could be scum. I dislike how he knew that both VE & SS were good and town candidates but is a lot less certain about anything else except Grack. I wouldn't kill him tomorrow though. I like reading his posts.
Pandain I got as town tbh but I put him with the doubties, there really isn't that much difference with Golden Sun for example. Maybe a bit more spammy. But I can sheep rayn on Pandain.
Thrawn I put as scummy in thread, willing to do a lot of shit in QT. But still mehhhh. For endgame creds I put him as scum.
Onegu is playing really well atm. If Holyflare flips scum I wonder if the guy is not playing too good... If Holyflare is town I am going to put Onegu there as well probably. Confident Onegu so crazy.

Hopeless1der I don't care about. Mr. Cheesecake I don't care about. Coagulation I don't care about.

Risen can die.


how the hell do you shit on being right, wtf!!!

Everyone insisted he was SCUM, which I knew he couldn't be and that is that!

Whatever read mine and SuperSoft filter we have agreed a lot this game, his reaction to BH lynch was mine also. In fact to almost everything.

If my ability to tell where BH was genuine seems unnatural, I read his blogs to increase te ability to look genuine for Aperture's :ws : meta. Which both got wrecked and worked amazingly well. Time to ditch that unreasonable level of commitment but I do actually genuinely agree with/ relate to/ understand a lot of what he writes.

His getting a new job, etc fits in with what he has been blogging about.

BH could have played different from his last 2 scumgames. But he decided to play the exact same way. A bit trying + fakeclaiming.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 15:46 GMT
#4200
Not much. But our QT. LM & Koshi

+ Show Spoiler +
LoneMeow and Koshi mason Day 2/Night 2

Koshi: Hi Stray Kitten.

Koshi: So, is this about me proving to you that I am town? Or you proving to me that you are town?
Or both?

Or is this just about scumhunting together?
Or thrice?

LM: This is about all three things, though right now *I* mostly care about figuring out your alignment.

I'd like to hear about your thought process when you changed your mind about raynpelikoneet for starters.

Koshi: Really don't understand why you don't post in the thread. So scummy.

Koshi: Well. to be really honest.

I thought rayn was scum for saying I was scum for starters. Also him not talking to me about my case on supersoft if he also had doubts on supersoft. Just strange. Then I just tunneled a bit on him and made cases so that others would also believe it and he would get lynched. Got to do something on D1 right. I am actually truly lost in bigger games on D1. Mostly in minis as well unless something scummy gets smacked in my face.

But atm he might be town. Unless he is in a scumteam with Grack. Because they are pushing same agenda atm. Also might explain why he forgot Grack earlier in the game when he gave 5 names and then added Grack when somebody asked him about it. So unlikely rayn.


But yeah, I kind a want to lynch BH atm. 120 hours should be enough for town BH to actually find scum. So we lynch BH and the next day lynch his scumreads if he actually is town.

Sounds like a perfect plan.

Koshi: Got to try and make VE use the double lynch as well.

Koshi: If we lynch BH.

LM: If we go for double lynch now and BH flips red, do you think we have 2 solid enough targets for the double lynch tomorrow? Who would you propose at this stage as the 2 next likely scum?

Koshi: It is still a very long time till D3 lynch. And there are always people we want to lynch.

Koshi: If BH is red I need to ask Alakaslam what he said about BH & VA scumteam for examples.

Koshi: Also, you really need to post in the thread. Soon I will reveal this QT between us if you don't post in the thread.
If you post in the thread I can keep it a secret. If you want that.

You were heavy lurk in Hogwarts and I dislike people trying to win people over in a QT.
Yamato being town and covering for you does make you look good. But I don't like it why you don't show that to the thread.

Koshi: I totally crumbed that we were in a QT. for funzies.

Where are you m8?

LM: Having a terrible afternoon at work.

As much as I hate defending myself with meta, I also hate it that you keep cherry picking my lurk in Hogwarts while ignoring that I played more or less exactly the same in LXI as town.

Also, it's not like I especially want to keep my choice of mason target for today secret.

What would it take from BH for you to want to lynch someone else?

Koshi: Probably will lynch BH no matter what. Unless he really shows he figured out the game or is trying.

Koshi: I know you also played extremely lurky in LXI. You need to post otherwise people will always think you are scum. It's how it is.

LM:
Do the other lurkers usually play lurky as either alignment? Those being Stutters, Mr. CheeseCake and Coagulation mainly, I suppose.


Koshi: Stutters is always lurky. But this is a new level ofc...
CC was town in Noir and was semi active (13pages). CC was scum in Aperture and was semi active (14 pages). Him doing absolutely nothing is new to me.
Coag is somebody I don't know. I guess I have played games with him but I forgot.

LM: Do you think this lurkiness in those players may be alignment indicative or not?

LM: Also, would you agree that Alakaslam is probably town? He looks like the usual overly paranoid Slam to me rather than scum pushing agenda.

Koshi: Depends if BH is scum tbh. I don't know why he is suddenly going crazy and attacking rayn

Koshi: Btw, Vayne thinks you are scum and he is looking townie. You might want to mason him tomorrow.

LM: I kind of noticed VA wanting to lunch me. I have kind of accepted my fate, but I might mason him anyway. In the land where meta rules, you're not allowed to try to improve

What's your opinion on Mig? I thought he was town, but his reads have been pretty non-existent and apparently he's supposed to be some kind of experienced player...

LM: Reading through Mocsta's filter I noticed he spent quite a few posts defending Sharrant. I'd like to hear your opinion on those posts.

LM: After re-reading Alakaslam's filter, I'm no longer at all sure he's town. That 180 on raynpelikoneet is just ridiculously quick...

Koshi: Bot Mocsta and Sharrant already flipped m8. I don't know what you want me to say...

You being a suspect for lynching has nothing to do with us not wanting you to improve. That's silly to suggest.
You can also not blame us for using meta on you because you are a low volume poster. If you would break out with a 5-10 page filter this game we wouldn't be able to use meta. But just like in noir and Hogwards you have a 2-3 page filter.

Best way to show thread that you are playing this game on D3 is to make a list with all players and give your honest opinion about them. Because to me it looks like you are pretending you are scumhunting but not really doing anything. You told me you wanted to know my alignement by Masoning me, did you figure it out? You asked 1 question? You asked me questions about the lurkers/afkers, did you figure it out?
There is never a conclusion to your questions and we all love to know where you stand.

LM: Oops, that's what I get for staring at a filter for too long I suppose.

My point with the meta was that two games does not really establish any kind of statistically meaningful dataset to compare against.

I'm pretty sure I'll get lynched for posting an "useless list post" but sure, I'll do that. Sadly it'll be full of "not sure, null" entries because I honestly don't have a good idea of the alignment of most players in this game.

If BH flips red you're definitely town, if he flips something else I suppose I'd still think you likely town.

Koshi: Yeah, if you don't have an idea about more than 10 people than you better just concentrate on your scumreads. Those 4 names you gave are not too shabby. Make cases around the 3 that will be alive tomorrow and I am sure you will stay alive if they are good.
Koshi: Just Mason VA tommorrow and you will be all right. Unless you went cutiepie on the Sharrant mistake I think you are town.

LM: Penny for your thoughts on HolyFlare?

The mason log he posted makes him look better and austinmcc look worse to me, but that's the exact opposite of my previous reads so I need to think about this.

Koshi: When reading that big ass post from Holyflare I only paid attention to Holyflare tbh. I think he is town, but it all depends a bit on BH flip on what I will do tomorrow. If BH flips town I need to look at Grack, thrawn, BC, alakaslam, etc. If BH flips red I just sheep rayn till he is wrong or I find something really good.

I also still find it interesting that Sharrant, StorrZerg & Spag died over vets like BH, SS, VE, Mig, BC etc. Just strange, especially that insane doc Sharrant kill. Quite sexy read. Just like the shot on Mocsta.

LM: Do you think getting rid of both assassins was beneficial for town?

Koshi: No it's bad for town, they wont tank any shots now. But BH was a good lynch, he could have easily flipped scum. VE was a bigger loss but now we understand why he was going after Skanjab D1...

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 16:01 GMT
#4204
He thought Sharrant was still alive.
Also I let him do the scumhunting.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 16:01 GMT
#4205
If I had to ask everything he would spend time there and I would direct his moves.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 16:19 GMT
#4207
Like 30 hours in D2.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 16:26 GMT
#4211
... Ok ... Well maybe he forgot. We can lynch LM, I just feel him town. I have like opposite reads than you and Va.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 16:29 GMT
#4213
D: me so sorry.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 16:30 GMT
#4214
I just feel other scums atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2013 17:04 GMT
#4226
I am not sloppy at all. And these people did not yet flip yet so how do you know you are right?
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