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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 18 2013 04:44 GMT
#2841
lol goddammit hopeless. do you remember WC2? you were the only person I had a correct read on at the end of the game so please if you are town.... go find that hopeless and sit him down in front of your computer

On November 18 2013 13:39 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm awaiting his return to find out what his "track" results were.


so you're saying you don't want to continue this conversation about BH that you were so eager to have...

well... then what can we talk about? who do you want to die? I kinda want to double lynch so which 2 people would you kill in that scenario?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 04:47 GMT
#2842
##vote BH
No gg, No skill.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 04:47 GMT
#2843
Oats + someone I have yet to decide. I'm looking through VE's filter atm because I think a bunch of nk's were in his scumreads.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 18 2013 04:48 GMT
#2844
hopeless remember the first thing I said to you this game? about not being a lazy fuck? well are you town?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 18 2013 04:49 GMT
#2845
On November 18 2013 13:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote BH


HEY OATS

how's it goin? fun game so far?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 04:50 GMT
#2846
who the fuck said I'm being lazy right now? Yeah I dont have massive cases or solved the game but i've been more active in the past hour than the 72 preceding it.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 04:50 GMT
#2847
Ok I can post for the next 4 hours or so.

VE cant play this good as scum.

I dont know what SS wants me to post. but thats basically how I play every game. Good job SS, you managed to show that I play consistently with my other games.

Also I like how nobody mentioned me until SS and suddenly Im everyones top scumread. Namely Pandain and Hopeless. Hopeless is the most scum.
No gg, No skill.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2013 04:51 GMT
#2848
I think I have a better understanding of fake-claims then anyone to be honest, don't know how often BH did it after I stopped playing in 2012 but early 2012 and 2011 and maybe even 2010 I was fakeclaiming like every single game. I would fake-breadcrumb or fake-slip days in advance. I would do it as town or scum and use my hellish fakeclaims to my advantage as either alignment.

You eventually realize, like I'm sure BH has, that fakeclaims are really only useful as scum. If you're town, they only cast doubt on you. You can sometimes use it(claiming cop) to lynch someone, or try to draw roleblocks/shots.

However BH wouldn't just let himself die because I would imagine he has a high opinion of himself. Furthermore, he's past the days of claiming for shots/roleblocks because it's not that useful in this game. A fakeclaim for him would make sense if he was Vet, but it actually makes even further sense if you have a history of fake-claims and thus can make up a town reason for a scum fakeclaim.

Rather then his fake-claim itself being scum, I'm actually changing my mind and saying the more scummy aspects are his timings and his poor un-town play outside of the claim. Him running for mayor and sticking to a typical BH RNG lynch do not help him, we all know BH by now would support an RNG claim.

He later followed up his play with a scum read on Grack(wrong and easy to make) and warned you against Yamato(some people thought this, I never did, his reasons were weak anyway and circumstansial).

I don't think trackers dying prove anything because BH has never been a tracker. Re-reading my games, I'm remembering how to fake-claim.

Also I've realized that I need to stop being a stubborn asshole and think about my reads so right now everyone but these people I have reads on, which is why I haven't responded you on austinmcc because I've realized there's more to it then I've thought.

Town:
Supersoft

Scum:
Blazinghand

There might be someone better then BH but I'll look at it later, but even if he's telling you he's vet, vt, or assasin, scum do that all the time. I did that all the time when I was scum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 04:51 GMT
#2849
hopeless is scum 100%
No gg, No skill.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2013 04:51 GMT
#2850
Ignore my third paragraph except for the first sentence and last sentence
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 18 2013 04:52 GMT
#2851
I am?

-you start a pointless convo with me
-you ask even more pointless questions after I respond
-I ask you for your conclusions based on my answers
-you don't really have any?

ffs dude
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 04:52 GMT
#2852
On November 18 2013 13:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok I can post for the next 4 hours or so.

VE cant play this good as scum.

I dont know what SS wants me to post. but thats basically how I play every game. Good job SS, you managed to show that I play consistently with my other games.

Also I like how nobody mentioned me until SS and suddenly Im everyones top scumread. Namely Pandain and Hopeless. Hopeless is the most scum.

wat
On November 18 2013 13:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
hopeless is scum 100%

Do tell.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 04:52 GMT
#2853
So rayn, the thing with me is that I think Koshi is town. So far when both of you are town, koshi can read you properly. So that means you must be scum right? Nope, I think you're town too. So its a bit weird.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 04:52 GMT
#2854
On November 18 2013 13:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 13:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok I can post for the next 4 hours or so.

VE cant play this good as scum.

I dont know what SS wants me to post. but thats basically how I play every game. Good job SS, you managed to show that I play consistently with my other games.

Also I like how nobody mentioned me until SS and suddenly Im everyones top scumread. Namely Pandain and Hopeless. Hopeless is the most scum.

wat
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 13:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
hopeless is scum 100%

Do tell.

wat
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 18 2013 04:53 GMT
#2855
Hi thrawn, how is BH town?
No gg, No skill.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 18 2013 04:55 GMT
#2856
On November 18 2013 13:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC you spent a lot of time digging into moc's filter and came away with basically only town reads. Is your conclusion that scum are probably people he didn't talk about?

And what do you make of this conversation between myself and hopeless? Idk wtf he is trying to accomplish


Very likely yes. He engages austin in personality 2 twice in very non confrontational posts then promptly ignores him for a few days. Anyone in the filter he partially interacted with and stress interacted with could potentially be red but it isn't a strong possibility.

I think hopeless needs to honestly step up and honestly contribute something of value. His response to me of 2 days worth of reading summarized on 3 people in two sentences is god fucking awful.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 18 2013 04:55 GMT
#2857
On November 18 2013 13:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
So rayn, the thing with me is that I think Koshi is town. So far when both of you are town, koshi can read you properly. So that means you must be scum right? Nope, I think you're town too. So its a bit weird.


hey can you explain your koshi town read? I instantly recognized him as 100% conftown in WC2 and i'm not getting that same feeling here. do you know what I'm talking about? rayn touched on some of it earlier
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2013 04:55 GMT
#2858
There is a chance BH is town fakeclaiming for 'town's' benefit.

But there's a smaller chance when it's a scummy BH fakeclaiming for town's benefit.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 04:57 GMT
#2859
On November 18 2013 13:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 13:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC you spent a lot of time digging into moc's filter and came away with basically only town reads. Is your conclusion that scum are probably people he didn't talk about?

And what do you make of this conversation between myself and hopeless? Idk wtf he is trying to accomplish


Very likely yes. He engages austin in personality 2 twice in very non confrontational posts then promptly ignores him for a few days. Anyone in the filter he partially interacted with and stress interacted with could potentially be red but it isn't a strong possibility.

I think hopeless needs to honestly step up and honestly contribute something of value. His response to me of 2 days worth of reading summarized on 3 people in two sentences is god fucking awful.

you'll recall i scummily cited "internet problems" and "the weekend" for inactivity excuses. I'm sorry I havent been furiously typing away making the be-all-end-all case of the century. Oats is full of shit and I wouldnt mind seeing thrawn flip atm. But thats rage and indignation talking, not a real scumread. I'm going back to filters.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 18 2013 04:58 GMT
#2860
EBWOP: rage and indignation at thrawn. Oats is scum. See SS' case for details.
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