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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 22:15 GMT
#3841
Rayn.
I can't get any clearer then this statement.

BH told Thrawn it was a legitimate breadcrumb. What is your response to that.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 22:15 GMT
#3844
By real claim I mean it was a claim meant to be taken seriously.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 22:16 GMT
#3847
I'll use different words.
Serious claim = claim meant to be taken serious. Rayn doesn't think so despite all evidence against it. I think it's pretty obvious.

Fake claim - Claim that is false, aka he's not tracker
real claim = he is tracker.

Change all my "real" claims to "serious"
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 22:20 GMT
#3851
Rayn.

BH told Thrawn it was a legitimate breadcrumb.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 22:23 GMT
#3857
I think BC is pretty town right now. That post was pretty good. If he can just explain to me in our mason chat the SS-BC thing more clearly for me, then I would have a stronger town read on him.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 22:25 GMT
#3864
On November 19 2013 09:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [bh/thrawn logs] +

thrawn - BLAZINGHAND MUH NIGG WHAT'S UP

first things first... you town?

BH - I am an assassin and am intentionally playing as scummy as possible without getting lynched. The other assassin will be the one who never suspects me as scum.

BH - I am the tracker. That is a legitimate crumb. I am hoping not to get role blocked tonight. Got any ideas who I should target?

thrawn - @3 what? why would you tell me this?

thrawn - oh nvm just now started reading op. i've never experienced assassins before

the way it looks to me is that it's not necessarily anti town? or what?

thrawn - eh this is fucking weird lol... no clue how to process what your motivations should be

thrawn - OK two questions

1 why would you claim assassin to me

2 why are you intentionally acting scummy/trolly? isn't that sure to bring suspicion on you? why wouldn't you be trying to play townie?

thrawn - wtf bh are you scum?

if you're truly assassin I don't really know if I care about this qt any more, but what if i'm the assassin? why would you just claim it immediately like that? i'm having trouble wrapping my head around what should be your "assassin point of view" or whatever

BH - OK in a hypothetical world where I am the assassin there's no way you're also the assassin, since assassins can't mason, right?

So imagine I'm the assassin-- someone has masoned me. He's either town thrawn, looking for clues, or scum thrawn, trying to figure out if I should be NKed. If he's scum thrawn I want him to know I'm the assassin. This way he aims his shots elsewhere and makes it more likely that my DT check for the other assassin goes off properly. If he's town thrawn I won't be able to keep up the illusion of being the tracker in a 1-on-1 convo, so I will claim assassin to him and strike a bargain with him: I'll actually read and help him refine reads and give my honest opinion if he doesn't try to lynch me tomorrow.

The other alternative is that I'm really the tracker, and am worried thrawn might be scum, so I soft-claim assassin in an attempt not to be shot.

There's really no reason I wouldn't claim assassin, honestly.

BH - Let me put it this way, thrawn. Whether I am telling the truth or lying, let me know two people you want analyzed and I will analyze them with the full force of the best analysis I'm capable of. If you have cases or reads your want opinions on, I'll be glad to help you out. Let me know what you need and I'll do it.

thrawn - ight now i'm looking at panda grack and austin. if you only want two i'd say go for grack and austin

panda and grack are the scum reads I picked up while I was skimming the game right after it started. you can see what i think about austin in the thread. I don't remember what it was I was thinking about panda, and i'm probably most hesitant about that read because what he's posted since i've joined has all seemed pretty carefree. grack i remember being useless and going on about electing kush, and there were some things VE pointed out (like how it's odd what he chooses to be serious about) that i agreed with

lol at some point i will actually need to read pages 1-election page

BH - I'll take a look.

BH - sorry for the delay, had some IRL issues last night. looking now ;_;

BH - yeah grack probably scum. he's a slippery one though, I doubt we'll be able to pull off a lynch on him today unless people are pretty smart. got any track ideas?

thrawn - if i were tracker I might rng it between grack/austin. i still haven't read anything beyond what i mentioned earlier and all my other reads are town reads

who do you think I should mason next cycle? what do you think about super, I was thinking about either picking him (if he is town I would really like to be able to trust and work with him) or one of the people that haven't really jumped into discussion

and I take it that you disagree about austin and panda since you didn't mention them? btw I don't know what you meant when you said grack would be hard to lynch... i'm probably gonna put a placeholder vote down on him while i finish catching up

thrawn - oh what do you think about koshi? I tried to incite some kind of emotional response from him but what I got was pretty underwhelming. he's so much more reserved than he was in WCII. In wc2 I basically knew he was town right from the start and that feeling never went away, i'm not getting that here

BH - gonna check Austin. I think grack is slam dunk don't need a track on him.

sorry didnt actually have time to dive Austin.

koshi shows his colors over time

ss is fine but also consider Also yamato. his anger might be fake; a qt will show.

BH - OK sent in a track on Austin. I'll be back hopefully before flips.

thrawn - lol yeah yamato sounds interesting

if he immediately starts insulting me he's probably town

BH - basically yes.

thrawn - are you really tracker?

and wtf you claimed that to the thread back in D1? WHHY?

tbh i don't think i believe either the assassin or tracker claims... meh

BH - remember that a scum yam will seem to have a different mood than what hr has in thread

BH - honestly I didn't have much time day 1 since I'm starting at a new job on Monday. I figured claiming would buy me the time to price myself.I would never admit this to the thread tho lol. had to do a lot of phone post and read so far. I think I should be able to catch enough scum going forward to prove myself town.

really though be careful with yam. town yam will see scummy for his anger. scum yam will seem townie for his reasonableness. don't let him mess with your head.

BH - my panda read is based on his tunnel of me actually being an attempt by scum to opt out of the thread. if I die tonight see what his next target is. if he is involves i n the thread be is town.if he finds another way to opt out, push him. grack first tho imo



I'm more inclined to think town over assassin for the reasons he gave me for his assassin claim

BUT EITHER CASE HE DOESN'T GET LYNCHED

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 22:29 GMT
#3869
Anyone have good reads on Cheesecake and thoughts on him?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 22:31 GMT
#3875
Oh god Rayn

Straight from the quote log.
I am the tracker. That is a legitimate crumb. I am hoping not to get role blocked tonight. Got any ideas who I should target?

I thought you were going to man up and say you were wrong but I was wrong it seems.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 22:38 GMT
#3883
I think Coag and Mattchew are both good lynches tomorrow to be frank.

They are being even more useless then they're town games.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 22:40 GMT
#3885
Hopefully Stutters gets modkilled as well.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 23:21 GMT
#3925
Okay I just finished analyzing everyone but Slam, I'll do that later.

Right now i have scum reads most heavily on Lonemeow, heavy reads on Holy and Oats, and then am really suspicious of Coag/Mattchew/Risen.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 23:42 GMT
#3942
On November 20 2013 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
ss pan and BC all seem like really good kills


Why are we good kills.
More then a paragraph please
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 23:49 GMT
#3945
On November 19 2013 10:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
No, ive said why I thought/think VE is an assassin.
[b]I contradict myself all the time as either alignment dude.

Why do you keep making bad cases SS?
[/QUOTE]

This quote is balls to the walls weird
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 23:50 GMT
#3946
On November 19 2013 10:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
No, ive said why I thought/think VE is an assassin.
I contradict myself all the time as either alignment dude.
Why do you keep making bad cases SS?


This post*
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 23:59 GMT
#3952
I don't really get the Austin lynch to be honest. Yeah he doesn't give too many scum reads but that doesn't mean he doesn't point out suspicious things. In my eyes as scum he could easily toss out some scum reads since he's proven to be clearly active and verbose this game. The fact he isn't really giving scum reads is a null and I think it's more evident with the contributions he's giving that he's town
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:04 GMT
#3958
Risen if you would bother to look into my scum games you would see that I always bus my teammates and like never give them town reads.

Artanis, look at the OP. There are mafia doctors.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:06 GMT
#3961
On November 20 2013 09:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 09:04 Pandain wrote:
Risen if you would bother to look into my scum games you would see that I always bus my teammates and like never give them town reads.

Artanis, look at the OP. There are mafia doctors.


Them being a possibility somehow means they're guaranteed to be in the setup?


It means it's dumb to rely on a vig to get things done. And you also shouldn't guide town sentiment towards shooting a specific person because then mafia would likely protect them
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:08 GMT
#3963
Who do you think is scum austin besides BH
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:15 GMT
#3967
Austin I just find it hard to believe that you can write so much and yet not try to figure out the most important thing in the game: who is scum
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2013 00:15 GMT
#3968
That is the definition of this game
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