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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:13 GMT
#3519
Alright Risen please justify it.

Furthermore it's quite weird to me that you're even pushing me with awful reasoning. It's 15-2-1-1-1 with me having one vote. The fact you're even pushing an impossible lynch is mind boggling to me
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:30 GMT
#3521
On November 19 2013 15:19 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 15:11 Pandain wrote:
On November 19 2013 15:07 LoneMeow wrote:
Pandain, you wanted Mig lynched earlier, has your read on him changed and if so, what made that happen?

I think Mig is extremely solidly town. His notes page he linked previously is online and still visible to actually see in fact.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ag5xQ7DQZXySdGlfcWVTaE5qbUJ3Wm91TUFGSFJsS0E&usp=sharing

The fact he is updating these without flaunting his notes or mentioning them leads me to believe they're honest notes. Furthermore, Mig doesn't pull these kinds of meta tricks nor would he have time to(in my opinion playing with him in Whiteflag).

He has constantly updated them, changed reads, and the reasons are valid enough.


Is there anything besides the spreadsheet you could point out that makes him look like town to you?


Playing pretty similar to Whiteflag although he's pushing people less.

Notes are pretty definitive for me though, unless there's evidence that he's scum he's safe for days to come
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:32 GMT
#3522
What do you think about the accusations against you?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:42 GMT
#3523
On November 19 2013 15:13 Pandain wrote:
Alright Risen please justify it.

Furthermore it's quite weird to me that you're even pushing me with awful reasoning. It's 15-2-1-1-1 with me having one vote. The fact you're even pushing an impossible lynch is mind boggling to me


Also unless you justify this you're on my scum list
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:45 GMT
#3527
On November 19 2013 15:42 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 15:13 Pandain wrote:
Alright Risen please justify it.

Furthermore it's quite weird to me that you're even pushing me with awful reasoning. It's 15-2-1-1-1 with me having one vote. The fact you're even pushing an impossible lynch is mind boggling to me

Today's a double lynch, no?


Further evidence you don't read the thread which probably means your town.

No, it's a double lynch tomorrow.

Furthermore, if you thought it was a double lynch, where would your other 'vote' go
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:48 GMT
#3528
Actually the fact you're so out of touch with what's going on in the thread is a bit concerning.

Why do you want to lynch me
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:54 GMT
#3530
The fact he claimed assasin is good enough for me. It's proved that he doesn't have town motives for fake-claiming, and the amount that he's done it definitively proves he's anti-town.

Claiming Assassin doesn't help BH gain town cred and it doesn't help him figure out anything about you. In essence, it serves no town benefit.

If you're fake-claiming for no town reason then that only leaves scum reasons.

I've been going through the list, up to Vayne now. I don't have high priority for your questions because you've been quite condenscending towards me.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:54 GMT
#3531
Come on Thrawn, you know this
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:56 GMT
#3533
Who knows and it doesn't really matter. Scum flips, superb and it leads to other places.

Assasin flips; we get it out of the way, another person is gone, easier to analyze
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:59 GMT
#3534
Do you think he's honestly town?

He's fake-claimed twice, others have noted he's never fake-claimed as town before which is surprising but also relevant to this. Now he's fake-claimed twice.

I don't disagree he might be town, but it would be bad town play to not lynch him
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 07:00 GMT
#3535
Also Risen if you keep acting retarded it won't fly later on in the game
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 07:01 GMT
#3537
The thing I'm more mind-boggled about is you think I'm more suspicious for not answering your questions
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 07:02 GMT
#3538
To clarify for my sake, and to help explain, BH is a mason, correct?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 07:17 GMT
#3541
His fake-claim because of being busy made sense.

His fake claim of being assassin didn't make sense as town(doesn't get benefit out of it). That is where I have changed my mind.

I don't think town BH, faced with someone who masons him, just claims Assassin to avoid getting shot. I don't think town BH, who is apparently busy, decides to then make another fake-claim and say he's tracker in thread.

This is a web of discourse that BH is spinning that ultimately shows that his shady play, uncharacteristic of his his normal town play, is not playing town.


I don't disagree that there are reasons to claim Assassin from a possible town, but I said that BH might be town. I just said that they're absolutely illogical, and coupled with his other play would be poor play to not lynch him today.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 07:19 GMT
#3542
And to answer your question I'll say BH is probably scum. This is the kind of mindgames he would play as scum
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 07:19 GMT
#3543
Now why do you want to vote me of all people
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 07:22 GMT
#3545
To answer your question with more comprehension, I think there's a 70% chance that BH is going to be scum in these scenarios.

We take that 70% chance
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 20:57 GMT
#3747
VE probably isn't scum he had like ten pages by day one. No reason to doubt a storm claim and that's the only reason he's even remotely suspicious right now
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 21:00 GMT
#3751
On November 20 2013 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 05:49 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm on my phone so I can't quote.

I say SS lynch targets bad/SS bad scum hunter.
SS asks me who he should look at instead.
I say Mocsta case is best case.
SS filters Mocsta.
SS declares he will lynch Mocsta.

He'd have to be Risen to do that as scum. He could just ignore me as a troll or say he didn't want to lynch Mocsta.

It's not the point what he said but what he did.
Yes he said he could lynch Mocsta. What he did is this:
Say he will read Mocsta. Say he will lynch Hopeless/Coag, still reading Mocsta, and hiro. (after 5min) "okay i guess i can lynch Mocsta". Still reading Hiro and Mocsta again. After deadline does not tell VE to lynch Mocsta. After VE lynches Skan does not bring Mocsta up, says "i guess that was an ok lynch, Mocsta was better but it's D1 so i could be wrong". Never brings Mocsta up again but makes a case on Oats on N1.

Does this look like a legit read evolvement on someone?

Seems fine to me ESP when you think about information you're ignoring
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 21:11 GMT
#3760
Oh stop Rayn.

No one thought VE was going to come back, or if they did they were being dumb. VE only came back AFTER deadline, he had changed his vote to SS, and it is clear that he probably thought he wasn't going to be mayor. I don't know why you're even making it a thing that VE 'of course' was going to be back at deadline.

Despite all the town things SS is doing, you're negating them by saying "he could have back tracked". You're right Rayn, he could've. He would've taken shit for it though;it would've been suspicious.

He's posted more useful things then really anyone else and he didn't manage to spam the thread so please stop even trying to make the claim that he could be scum.
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