I am back catching up, lol they killed ss. Also HAHA THRAWN posts that Grack is scum. How many scum have to target him/does he have to vote for for you to consider that he could be town. Was mafia's day1 game plan we will all try to get grack lynched and in return he will bus all of us.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 15:39 GMT

#6132

How is supersoft the only person to mason me this entire game.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 16:00 GMT

#6135

I am happy to murder Thrawn or Risen. Probably prefer Risen.

Austin/thrawn can you please explain to me exactly why you think Risen is town. Austin I keep seeing you say you are going to go back and read his filter. Well did you?

I mean you guys really believe that Risen the same guy who yesterday fucking fought tooth and nail to survive, was willing to lynch anyone to save himself, who tried to get bandwagons going on oats/hf/among others is now just perfectly fine with rolling over and dying? It is bullshit.

Thrawn can you please explain your post about how you "werent scummy enough" me and Grack have both asked you about it and you ignored both of us. To me it looks like you were going to try and play it off as you attempted to act scummy on purpose? But you then came in here today with your giant WE ARE NOT GOING TO LYNCH ME post and cried about how the thread was bad so you stopped caring and didnt read it. Oh but you did have no problem reading and posting 60 times in your other game. Yea I am not buying your bullshit either.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 16:06 GMT

#6136

Also really have to consider why they murdered supersoft last night. Somehow there were still a couple people who doubted super because he was in love with BC so he had some suspicion on him. But mafia knew Super was not going to change his reads (he tunneled Oats the entire game and he was in love with BC no matter how scummy BC looked). Super foolishly pointed out how if we lower the mafia kp to 1 it will be almost impossible for them to kill him, especially with his RB.

If Risen/thrawn were town they would kill me (since I should be close to confirmed town) and someone else and leave supersoft to push the mislynches. If his reads were wrong they wouldn't care about his rb power since he would be using it on townies. So use some common sense people, they used 2kp on super for a reason.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 16:09 GMT

#6138

They have known super was the roleblocker the entire game lol. He claimed to BC day1. So why did they choose to kill him now and not sooner?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 16:10 GMT

#6141

It is because they have no choice if mafia KP is lowered to 1 he will be almost unkillable and super was finally on the right track. They left him alive before because he loved BC so they could use him to hopefully save BC.

super blocked Oats again lol. Not my first choice but oh well.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 16:12 GMT

#6143

Right Vayne you just said it. Super's reads were off all game so they left him alive. Now they killed him don't think that indicates his reads were probably more on line?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 16:12 GMT

#6145

ebwop: don't you think that indicates his reads were probably more on line

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 16:15 GMT

#6147

Well agree to disagree I suppose. I think supersoft is incredibly hard headed if his reads were bad I think mafia kill 2 townies and let him push the mislynch. Also if super in his super way pushed a mislynch super hard and I was dead and not there to defend him I think mafia could potentially build more suspicion on super.

If supers reads are wrong they dont give a fuck that he is a rber because he is going to be rbing townies.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 16:16 GMT

#6148

And anyway the cases against thrawn/risen are super strong as it is. Supersofts death just makes it even stronger.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 16:43 GMT

#6155

Look at Risen's posts right before lynch, this is insanely obvious people.

On November 23 2013 09:30 Risen wrote:

Yeah I can dig it. Really digging that post by BC, too. Last minute shenans onto Oats from BC go?

##unvote: raynpelikoneet
##vote: Oatsmaster

Deal with rayn tomorrow. That martyr post is godawful especially with Pandain above him. I really want one of ss/panda and oats flipping today. Last second train lets do this people.

Last minute attempt to save his buddy BC.

On November 23 2013 09:57 Risen wrote:
Oh BC please be town. PLEASE BE TOWN DOUBLE TOWN LYNCH LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

On November 23 2013 09:59 Risen wrote:
AUSTIN LAST SECOND VOTE ON RAYN THAT DOESNT MATTER SCUMMY AS FUCK

On November 23 2013 10:00 Risen wrote:
NOOOOOO FUCK YOU GUYS THE DOUBLE TOWN LYNCH OF JUSTICE

Risen freaks out tries to play the bitter townie, can't believe you guys are lynching me I hope BC is town also blah blah blah. But then the next day he starts talking about how poorly he has played and martyrs himself asking the town to kill him. These 2 things do not go together. You are not the bitter townie rooting for town to mislynch and also a fucking martyr who thinks they have played poorly. Risen is a crockpot full of shit.

And if that were not enough immediately after lynch what does he try to do?

On November 23 2013 10:51 Risen wrote:
The circlejerk going on in this thread right now is strong. Too much scum touching between mig, VA, Grack. How do I know there's scum amongst these folks? Because they're not afraid of giving out their fucking town reads at NIGHT

On November 23 2013 11:44 Risen wrote:
Your lack of understanding surrounding the BC last second swap or even consideration of the shenans means to me you are pushing an agenda. So yeah, I think you're scum.

Oh try to cast more suspicion on me and grack. Genius!

Risen is 99% scum. There is just no way he is town. Murder him.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 16:49 GMT

#6157

Regarding Austin/pandain I am inclined to believe they are both Vets. It just makes sense in this setup

1) our detective roles are incredibly weak this game. We have no dts no watchers and only 2 trackers and trackers are super weak in this setup. We have noisy neighbors/town and mafia rber/assassins/town and mafia doc. Trackers won't be that much help so to make up for it we will need stronger kp/protective roles.

2) Our kp roles make sense we have 2 2 shot vigs and possibly a hatter, but to counter that mafia has their own 2 shot vig and a mafia doc. So we have to have some protective roles right?

3) Right now it looks like we only have 1 doc (could be another alive but this still makes sense either way). Considering there is so much kp (mafia has 3 + 2shot vig) + potential assassin kp + the fact that townies shoot each other a lot. Having a couple vets makes perfect sense. Vets also make more sense in setups that have assassins. Townies can easily shoot the vets/assassins and not know whether they are actual vets or assassins.

So yea in this setup 2 vets really makes perfect sense. And even if you don't believe all this about setup the fact still remains that mislynching a vet is basically like mislynching 2 townies. So put austin/pandain on the back burners for awhile. I am not going to say they are guaranteed town because of their claims but it is incredibly costly for town to mislynch them.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 16:57 GMT

#6160

Unfortunately townies play bad also. I think Austin has done some dumb dumb things but he did push BC hard yesterday. When BC was making his last second push to looks townie and be saved, austin was undermining it and still arguing with him 5 min before the lynch! If mafias plan was to try and save BC right at the end (which it obviously was), don't think they normally have austin there fighting him.

Does this guarantee austin is town? No but the fact still remains you don't want to mislynch a Vet unless it is really obvious they are mafia and you don't have better options.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 16:59 GMT

#6162

On November 25 2013 01:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
that's incredibly biased if you want to play the role game with me. It is obvious im the mad hatter yet austin is pushing me incessantly. if you can explain why he is not playing pro-town then im all ears. He just last second voted together with BC to kill rayn.

Vayne we have 0 proof that you are hatter besides your crumbs lol and you now claim to have no bombs. We have 0 actual proof of you being a hatter. So yea I believe you are hatter but people shouldn't assume it is 100% true.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 17:00 GMT

#6163

Btw another thing against Risen.

Supersoft was frantically asking if he should pardon Rayn right at the end. Marvel says don't post. Who quotes marvel to shut Super up?

On November 23 2013 10:02 Risen wrote:

Show nested quote +

Who does it benefit for super to shut up and not save rayn? Mafia.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 17:02 GMT

#6165

No it doesn't 2 2 shot vigs is already a decent amount of KP. Setups are not completely rigged they have some wiggle room (we could have only 1 vet or 3 vets for instance). My whole argument was just that 2 vets make sense. It was not saying guaranteed 100% we have 2 vets because of set up. Just saying it makes sense.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 17:03 GMT

#6166

Right now I find your/pandain's/austins claims to all make sense so while there are better targets I don't think any of you should be up for lynch.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 17:12 GMT

#6168

Yea Oats how does Thrawn being town = Risen scum. Thrawn straight up defends Risen and says he thinks he is town. Risen mentions thrawn briefly then ignores him. Risen mentioned how Thrawn was afk forever yesterday and could have tried to get a train started on him like he did you but instead just let it drop.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 18:03 GMT

#6173

Thrawn put a vote on BC when it was completely useless and BC was already dead. If BC had convinced people to swap to Oats he could have easily swapped with them.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

November 24 2013 19:19 GMT

#6183

Thrawn has a lot of problems besides just being afk.

1) loved BC's retarded case against Grack and continues to think Grack is mafia. Doesn't actually look like he is evaluating new information and changing his reads.

2) It isn't just that he wasn't around but he was posting for nearly 2 solid days in his other game while completely ignoring this one. Then he comes back says something about how he wasn't scummy enough and insinuates it was part of some plan, he also told me it was "special tactics" along with disinterest. But then comes in today and blames it on the state of the game demotivating him. Makes 0 mention of his special tactics or plan.

Thrawn's story doesn't add up and just seems like some made up bs. Can you show me what exactly makes you think Thrawn is town?