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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 12 2013 17:23 GMT
#1721
preferably well before deadline

same for sn0/sylencia
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 12 2013 17:27 GMT
#1722
Also the votes for D2 plz, we are missing 1 blue action from yesterday? I voted rayn/thrawn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 12 2013 17:29 GMT
#1723
I thought umasi tracked some1 (syl maybe?) and got nothing, and rayn checked umasi?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 12 2013 17:29 GMT
#1724
Reconsidering rayn as scum because he called Vanesco town at the start of D1.
But not really reconsidering after all..
Seems legit sno!
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 12 2013 17:29 GMT
#1725
Nvm second was Umasi.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 12 2013 17:29 GMT
#1726
Umasi tracked Cephiro.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 12 2013 17:31 GMT
#1727
So rayn and Umasi got elected twice both. Yeah, we are not voting them d4 rofl.
I had a good night of sleep.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 12 2013 17:35 GMT
#1728
i dont care that what i'm about to say is probably thought of as bad play

SCUM PLAYERS PAY ATTENTION EVERYTHING I"M ABOUT TO SAY MAY OR MAY NOT BE MISDIRECTION

blue guy should 100%%% protect koshi or myself. flip a coin and keep it to yourself. DO THIS. If mafia team thinks that koshi and myself each have a 50% chance of getting protected, they will be hesitant about shooting either of us. everyone in this thread knows I'm town, and I'm going to completely vouch for koshi. koshi_is_not_mafia_do_not_lynch_him_ever. rayn if you're blue, find a 3 sided coin and flip it to determine if you're going to save koshi, you, or me.

SCUM PLAYERS READ THIS POST
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 12 2013 17:37 GMT
#1729
Scum can't shoot me because that confirms Umasi as town so noone should consider protecting me. You guys just win if i die rofl. :p

Other than that i agree thrawn.
table for two on a tv tray
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 12 2013 17:38 GMT
#1730
On November 13 2013 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Scum can't shoot me because that confirms Umasi as town so noone should consider protecting me. You guys just win if i die rofl. :p

Other than that i agree thrawn.


honestly i dont give a fuck what the night actions are I just want scum to read that post

or do I?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 12 2013 18:19 GMT
#1731
I want to tell all my fans that this is how you enter a game and prove you are townie.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 12 2013 19:09 GMT
#1732
Like this?
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 12 2013 19:11 GMT
#1733
Equally gracious but unless that cat wanted to hug the wall I was at least successful.
I had a good night of sleep.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 12 2013 19:19 GMT
#1734
Hmmm, so far EITHER rayn OR ET (now hopeless) are scum. I'm leaning towards ET. He had a few posts that made me think he's town but he buddied vanesco (sharing his reads etc) while still distancing with reads like "null to slightly scummy". Plus he was a key OO scumread (OO disliked him and vanesco, as well as me and ceph).

He spent the early game pushing thrawn really hard (with vanesco helping), had a big case post followed by "come at me if u dislike my case" kind of bluff. Rayn wrote a case on HIM in return and ET said "Fine fine my case is shit. That doesn't make me scum lol". -_-. He was pretty adamant that the people he would lynch were me and thrawn, and that people voting others were wasting their votes. But he slid onto the Hzflank and later gumshoe lynches pretty smoothly. I'm at the start of D2 and rayn and thrawn both have big scumreads on ET which is helping.

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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 12 2013 19:35 GMT
#1735
Independent of anything rayn says or does, Umasi is pretty solidly town to me due to posts like
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 08 2013 11:23 Umasi wrote:
so I think that onegu is town, purely by feel, and would rather see votes on other people. I had a good feeling about hz at the end of d1, but since then it's been *shrug*, will keep relatively close track of koshi.
Kinda leery of hopeless/et atm, but not that much.
Not sure about rayn, but there are other people I prefer to lynch.
I have sylencia as town still, but I've kind of slept on him for a while.
I still like a vanesco lynch, can we lynch him?
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 17:18 Vanesco wrote:
After me trying to ask why people decided to vote on gumshoe in the last few minutes of the day I only got 2 responses (by thrawn and rayn). Mostly everybody else has been kinda lurking up to this point and still hasn't given a reason for their vote on gumshoe. I still believe that most likely that scum was involved in the vote since i don't think 7/9 townies would instantly change their vote which is why the reasons for switching your votes is really important in my opinion.

Out of the 7 who voted on gumshoe I feel like the most scummy are umasi and sno_man.

For those who are wondering why thrawn isn't there is because I do not think he is as scummy as I did last time. Ever since night 1 he has been posting well in my opinion. Another reason why is because of what I found suspicious at first, that he kinda deflected off of hzflank and started the vote on gumshoe. The more I think of it it makes me lean more town on him each time.

The argument still stands if they are both scum, but it would have been a big risk to take, but still a possibility. I don't see the scenario working if thrawn was scum and hzflank was town, that he would poke his head so far out to vote on gumshoe when all that was needed was 1 more vote on hzflank. And if thrawn is town, regardless of hzflanks alignment, he thought that gumshoe was a better vote as explained in his reasoning.

He says that he thinks both sno and I are scummy, but doesn't pursue it at all, he just addresses why thrawn ISN'T listed. feels like he was throwing something out there to throw something out there.
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 17:27 Vanesco wrote:
I'm also disliking all of this meta talk. While meta is good as a guideline I think people are going to much in this line of talk "well since he plays like this and this game he is playing slightly differently then he obviously must be the opposite role he was last game". Some meta talk is fine but some pages are just filled with mostly meta talk. What about some game related topics like the votes, OO's death at night and any suspicions he had on people and any people he put in the town zone. It seems many people are ignoring these greatly and if we do so then it puts town almost back into the same position as it was in day 1 with some extra reads and 2 townies dead.

'I dislike meta talk'
proceeds to talk about meta
##vote: vanesco



This was long before vanesco had a chance at being lynched and while scum can definitely bus, I just don't see this coming from scum!Umasi. Too many other easy targets, and ALL his posts feel far too genuine.

So even if I doubt rayn, Umasi still town.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 12 2013 19:37 GMT
#1736
Will you be here around deadline snow?
I had a good night of sleep.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 12 2013 19:43 GMT
#1737
Shameless self-plug
On November 08 2013 13:03 Vanesco wrote:
This town is seriously ignoring so many things its putting town at a setback in my opinion. Like seriously, its now Day 2 and we are in a worse position than at the start of the game. Now instead of 10 townies we are down to 8 while scum are still at 3. What has town learnt? Not much apart from having more time to make reads on player interaction. Why is nobody interested in following up on how gumshoe was killed or why OO was a target?

So far (unless I accidentally missed it in the thread), Umasi, EchelonTee (now kinda excused since replaced), Sn0_Man, and Cephiro have not given any type of explanation as to why they decided to change their vote onto gumshoe in the last few minutes, which I am still waiting for. If those 3 (this is excluding EchelonTee) are allowed to get away with lynching a townie without ever even having to reason why it would be a big mistake. If one of those 3 happens to be scum then its like giving them a free pass on a kill.

OO's death is interesting in my opinion since a few people were kinda talking about lynching or thinking of lynching him come day 2. I think that regardless of if OO was NK or silver bullet shot, there was a reason why they chose him over somebody else. It seems that OO was mainly focused on sno for most of the game. He was also suspicious of others however sno is the one that seems to occur many times and sno's posts have very much the similar type where he has been mainly wanting to get rid of OO.

##Vote: Sn0_Man


Early D2. Hopeless jumped on not much later.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 12 2013 19:44 GMT
#1738
On November 13 2013 04:37 Koshi wrote:
Will you be here around deadline snow?

I'm here for the next 3 hours, so past deadline yes
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 12 2013 19:46 GMT
#1739
sn0man, I said earlier that koshi is town, and I'm willing to stake the game on it. do you accept this? also what about sylencia? what is his level of scumminess or towniness compared to hopeless in your opinion? are you willing to lynch him first?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 12 2013 19:52 GMT
#1740
Still reading buuuuuut I'm not leaning scum on Syl right now. All his posts so forgettable or something

I'm pretty much ignoring your post re: koshi till daytime.

AFAIK one of syl and koshi are scum, along with one of rayn and ET/Hopeless though. Right now I'm thinking hopeless as mentioned above but that could easily be confirmation bias. Rayn's play this game pretty disgusting if town. Considering he's claiming to be playing "for end-game cred" he's been CONSISTENTLY wrong so far about essentially everything (approaching d2 lynch). Except Umasi town, he's right about that lel.
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