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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 12 2013 22:33 GMT
#1789
On November 13 2013 07:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
That sounds like he'd rather lynch syl than me guys. But then, there's his vote on me in what I see as an attempt to appeal to rayn to save him.

Sounds like ur back to making shit up
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 12 2013 22:39 GMT
#1793
We have 48 hours. I'm content with "no longer 3 instavotes on me". Thats how you lose mafia in a hurry.

Dear hopeless: Who is scum? If it includes me, who else? will you at least consider voting the other person instead of me? If not, why not?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 12 2013 22:55 GMT
#1801
Problem is i literally just vomited my entire mind after re-reading virtually every post in the thread. I'm quite contributed out.

I've laid out everything I have. I'll check in and toss my comments but realistically I've said all I can say.
I am not scum.
Thrawn is not scum.
Rayn is very unlikely to be scum.
Umasi is not scum.
Hopeless is scum by PoE and since him and vanesco were pushing the exact same agenda for 2 days running. When asked about vanesco et called him "null or very slightly scummy" despite having exactly the same reads. Hopeless continued to sheep vanesco.
Syl is scum mostly by PoE since he hasn't managed to even push a scum agenda, just be utterly useless. "Lynch cephiro" -> ceph flips town. "OH jk lynch rayn and thrawn".... yeah.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 12 2013 23:01 GMT
#1803
On November 09 2013 11:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 10:03 Sylencia wrote:
You guys are idiots

Oh hell the fuck no. This guys dead tomorrow
Sn0 can have another day.


Posts like this bother me
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 12 2013 23:01 GMT
#1804
EBWOP: as in, not sure that feels like a scumbuddy interaction... :/
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2013 15:13 GMT
#1861
I'm absolutely open to lynching Syl or Hopeless it makes no difference to me. I voted hopeless originally because he was the one I figured was more likely to get lynched, and the one I had some amount of "dirt" on.

I'm around from now to the "day-line" (obviously not the deadline) but I remain unsure what brilliant new revelation I can bring beyond "hopeless/syl scumteam".
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2013 16:23 GMT
#1863
His case amounts to "I can write Sn0's name in big red letters that guy must be scum.

Everything else is drivel.
"Oh Sn0 wanted to lynch Syl over vanesco" guess what syl is scum
"Oh Sn0 got Onegu lynched" yeah sure whatever floats your boat. I offered meta reference. Onegu played scummy. Hopeless deliberately misconstrues me and uses emotionally charged language in an attempt to squelch logic regarding why Onegu actually died.
"Sn0 figures the D1 NK may have been a silver bullet" obviously this is a clear scumtell thank you for pointing this out Hopeless no town would ever consider such a thing. Trying to figure out the game is how i play tyvm.
"Sn0 gave me shit when I replaced in" please excuse me for poking people in a mafia game to see how they react.
"Sn0 dropped his scumread on Syl day 4" well somebody didn't read day 4 at all
Hopeless also attempts to garner towncred in the middle of this for last-voting onto vanesco after he's already been hammered for a while without any chance of any other lynch.
And feels the need to jump on me messing up names (onegu instead of vanesco watever).

Ok thats his whole case boiled down and somewhat in order (excepting the first point).
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2013 18:14 GMT
#1869
On November 14 2013 02:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 02:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
rayn/thrawn/umasi am I going to need to explain why Sn0 is scum again? Or does his defense post do that for you?


i'm kinda tired of being the middle man for every single conversation. i'd rather you guys work it out

Hows this gonna work lol our votes are pretty much secured already. Regardless of alignment both of us *must* construe the other one as scum. Whether we lynch Syl first or not is irrelevant.

We can't "work it out" we simply have to hope you believe us. There is no world where me and hopeless can end up agreeing (except about lynching syl, which I kinda wonder why we aren't doing tbh). I'm town so I'd assume you'd believe me but I suppose there is a world where hopeless manages to be more persuasive than me.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2013 18:27 GMT
#1872
I'm still annoyed that our blue hasn't claimed yet. Yes if scum still have shots you die at the end of the day but since we can't no-lynch anyway for fear of exactly that there is nothing lost.

I assume that said blue has nothing of value to share but WHY NOT?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2013 18:29 GMT
#1874
that was the logic in my post yes.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2013 18:37 GMT
#1882
spamspamspam

I aint got shit to say lol.

Wats the matter with my defense? Its hard to write intelligent stuff when his case is that bad. Like how do I address this:

On November 13 2013 12:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
@Sn0
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 07:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
On November 13 2013 07:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
That sounds like he'd rather lynch syl than me guys. But then, there's his vote on me in what I see as an attempt to appeal to rayn to save him.

Sounds like ur back to making shit up

Like what, pray-tell? Do I get my own personal edition of "(OMGUS-read) makes up shit!"

He literally makes up shit (that somehow I think syl is scummier than him which is patently false), I call him on it, and his response is "What did i make up?"...

I was going with "anybody who read that shit would insta lock on hopeless no way he's town"
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2013 18:37 GMT
#1883
On November 14 2013 03:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
sn0's defense to a 'not very good' case should be more substantial than giving you a repeat feel of 'not very good', dont you tihink?

"My case is shit but Sn0 can't respond to points that DONT EXIST hes obviously scum"
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2013 18:45 GMT
#1885
"back to" is the least relevant part of that. now ur admitting you made shit up but I'm supposed to look bad because I imply you did it more than once... This is getting dumb.

Regardless,
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 10 2013 14:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 13:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
man wtf is this game....I still want sylencia to tell me what his read of me is, and why the fuck he thinks its his job to berate town for lynching onegu when he did nothing to prevent it or present an alternative.


What do you think sylencia's berating of town says about his alignment and why? Annnnnnd do you have anything else you want to talk about?

I dont remember where, or even who, though I think it was marv, but someone said that posts like syl's are almost always from scum. I also dont even remember why, I just saw that post and something clicked in my brain that said he's supposed to be scum for it.


May or not be made up but since i get flamed for "unsubstantiated" comments on Onegu's meta (despite playing like 3 games in a row with him) I can call this made up.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2013 20:32 GMT
#1888
From memory, he pushed vanesco all game and sounded incredibly genuine. Also I've played with him where he played quite similarly as town though I'll admit that isn't too valuable.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2013 20:41 GMT
#1890
On November 04 2013 10:30 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 09:50 Vanesco wrote:
On November 04 2013 08:53 Sylencia wrote:
So to anyone who was in the original game, other than our usual win-con, what else should we be looking at in terms of how Witchcraft works?

I don't really like this. You don't really put effort in to even cross-check the players from the last game (of witchcraft) which is really simple to do. The only player to play in the last one is Thrawn who was shot night 1. But I think that is not very relevant since each game can turn out different. I think you should come to your own conclusions on how to play this themed game instead of hoping others tell you how to play. It just seems like your not willing to put the effort in to even try to solve this game for yourself. It's also very dangerous to discuss strategy because scum can see everything also and can use that against town. I'm of the opinion that everybody should play the way THEY think is the correct way to play.

I think it's scummy that I read this and I can't tell if you think Sylencia is scummy or not, when my first impression was 'he's acting accusatory' (with your first line) but then continue reading and can't actually determine if you just think his thoughts are bad or if he's scummy for his lack of ideas on the setup and for him not looking up a player list.
Also, asking us not to discuss strategy is blatantly scum agenda.
##Vote: Vanesco
Also, I support claiming votes and actions after they occur, so once it's back to the blues being VTs and unviggable, can't really think of a downside.


This is Umasi's first post of the game. I'd be VERY surprised if scum's plan from day 1 was to tunnel his scumbuddy from post 1 and never give up.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2013 20:42 GMT
#1891
I'll read more but like, thats the first post in his filter lol. The reasoning sounds legit, not invented scum stuff either.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2013 21:47 GMT
#1897
No lol. Too long or something.

I've never dropped my slight reservations with respect to rayn but he had enough townreads from others and enough opportunity to imo avert the vanesco lynch and to drive other mislynches (me lol) that I just find it so much more likely that hopeless and syl r scum.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2013 21:48 GMT
#1898
EBWOP was @thrawn
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 14 2013 14:29 GMT
#1969
My regular in thread appearance may be delayed today. I expect to be around no later than 3 hours till lynch though.

This is just a quick PSA. I'm not around now nor have I read to here.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 14 2013 18:46 GMT
#1980
Hmmmm we lynching syl? I can do that as we know.

I told you I wasn't gonna be around till around now
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