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On November 06 2013 14:28 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 14:28 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 06 2013 14:26 ObviousOne wrote: God I really want to lynch ET right now. I don't think I buy this at all... refer to my above post and get back to me. If you want to call ET scum then go ahead and do it instead of posting a quote here, a snide comment there. you can't tell me what to do you're not my real dad
yeah ok
we can do it this way which ends up with me pushing your lynch over everything else D2 or we can actually play mafia?
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ET can you please get in here and respond to the people making cases on you (rayn/OO.)
OO go ahead and finish. I also want to know what you currently think about sn0man. (also it would be a lot better if you could consolidate your posting instead of making a post for each single point of information)
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hmm. the mafia team is ET Sn0 and Ceph because.....
starting point >>> ceph is the most nervous about the lynch -cephiro was apprehensive -maybe he's apprehensive becuase he's waiting for his team to green light gum's death -there's probably 2 scumbuddies causing all of sn0's apprehension -therefore all 3 scum are talking about the gumshoe lynch in the scum qt as it's going down -since all 3 scum are around for the lynch they must have all voted gumshoe at some point
conclusion>>> 3 scum were on the mislynch
That is absolutely terribad, are you really trying to sell me on this? You're making assumptions each step of the way, assumptions that need only be made if you're trying to justify your conclusion about who the 3 scum are.
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I went back and looked through your post to see if you have other reasons for calling Cephiro mafia but it looks like the bulk of your case against him is that he was the most nervous? Is that correct?
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On November 06 2013 15:48 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 15:42 thrawn2112 wrote: I went back and looked through your post to see if you have other reasons for calling Cephiro mafia but it looks like the bulk of your case against him is that he was the most nervous? Is that correct? You gotta wear your pants just right. Left leg draped over the right shoulder, right leg wrapped around like a turban. Trust me.
lol you remind me of scum dandeIon
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On November 06 2013 16:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: i again remember why i did say what i did in ##'s game. lol this is hilarious.
what do you make of ObviousOne's recent posts
Btw i've just noticed that I always think you're scum until you jump in the thread, so idk. I'm kinda waiting on you and ET to talk things out before I decide what I think about your case against him. WoS brought up the point that if I know your town play then I should be prepared for weird tunnels which we both know is a good point. So let's talk about OO in the meantime.
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On November 06 2013 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: OO why would there be 3 scum on gumshoe unless hzflank is scum?
it's this:
On November 06 2013 15:39 thrawn2112 wrote: hmm. the mafia team is ET Sn0 and Ceph because.....
starting point >>> ceph is the most nervous about the lynch -cephiro was apprehensive -maybe he's apprehensive becuase he's waiting for his team to green light gum's death -there's probably 2 scumbuddies causing all of sn0's apprehension -therefore all 3 scum are talking about the gumshoe lynch in the scum qt as it's going down -since all 3 scum are around for the lynch they must have all voted gumshoe at some point
conclusion>>> 3 scum were on the mislynch
there are 3 scum on gumshoe simply because Cephiro was nervous... dafuq
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oh, sn0 should be changed to cephiro on one of these points. basically OO is saying that ceph was nervouse due to having to wait on his team give him permission to hammer gumshoe. somehow that assumption leads to all 3 scum voting for gumshoe
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Well, I think it's the other way around or something. Like Ceph is scum because 3 scum were on gum, because ceph was probably nervous about hammer, because he was probably feeling the pressure from his scumbuddies... etc. I asked if he had any other reasons for calling Ceph scum and I got this response:
(my question is what he's replying to)
On November 06 2013 15:48 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 15:42 thrawn2112 wrote: I went back and looked through your post to see if you have other reasons for calling Cephiro mafia but it looks like the bulk of your case against him is that he was the most nervous? Is that correct? You gotta wear your pants just right. Left leg draped over the right shoulder, right leg wrapped around like a turban. Trust me.
basically it's just really weird and forced with lots of assumptions that don't hold up
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lol goddammit can people stop posting fake cases it's such a waste of everyone's time
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What Onegu is saying about WoS doesn't make sense to me either. It makes sense in that I can follow the train of thought but it doesnt make sense in that it's a weird and weak justification that Onegu's using to change his read on WoS. And this line:
On November 06 2013 19:34 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well did he in your opinion try to hunt scum after unvoting you? No not really, he kinda pushed hz later in the day. Brb And Onegu doesn't think this is suspicious? His read on WoS seems fake.
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On November 07 2013 03:52 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2013 03:46 thrawn2112 wrote:What Onegu is saying about WoS doesn't make sense to me either. It makes sense in that I can follow the train of thought but it doesnt make sense in that it's a weird and weak justification that Onegu's using to change his read on WoS. And this line: On November 06 2013 19:34 Onegu wrote:On November 06 2013 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well did he in your opinion try to hunt scum after unvoting you? No not really, he kinda pushed hz later in the day. Brb And Onegu doesn't think this is suspicious? His read on WoS seems fake. But see that's it exactly. So you can follow the train of thought, is the train of thought scummy? It may not make a lot of sense, or be GOOD in any way, but it's pretty transparent and bad and that looks towny to me. I have a HUGE reservation about what Rayn is insinuating with his questioning of Onegu but I think there may be bias on my part so I'm not going to say anything just yet. I'll leave it to scum central to explain himself because he told me to shut up and let him do what he's doing---though i must say I haven't seen a whole lot of anything yet.
OK my guess is that you see this as scum rayn trying to coerce town onegu into thinking that WoS is mafia? To me it looks more like rayn is trying to figure out wtf onegu has a town read on you for such such strange reasons. Onegu said that after you (WoS) unvoted him, you didn't really scumhunt. But his opinion of you has gone from scummy to townie after the unvote? How does that makes sense? If town Onegu TRULY had a scumread on WoS, I don't think anything that WoS has done after and including the unvote would have made Onegu change his mind.
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bleh whatever. idc.
honestly right now i'm a little pissed because I thought I was onto something with OO, but I guess he's making fake cases too and I'm supposed to give him a free pass on that?
so fucking annoying and such a waste of my time to argue with someone for an hour only to have them go "lolz I jk bro" I might just push his lynch out of spite until he can show that he's town because he did nothing but jerk me around for a few hours last night. he promises a comprehensive post about the D1 lynch, but instead he makes a series of small posts critiquing minor things about various people without being upfront and saying they're scum. after I pressure him to stop screwing around he acts like i'm the asshole, tells me to stfu an let him finish his work. at that point i'm pretty pissed, but ok, I try to keep things civil just in case he's town. then he goes on and writes a mega post that's just full of stupid, he lets me rage at him about it only to finally say that he was just fishing for reactions
/rant
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WoS if you haven't read the discussion between myself an OO you are definitely missing out
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oh we're posting our reads way before the deadline? me next!
WoS is town and I don't feel the need to explain why.
hzflank is town and deserves a medal for displaying great courage and valor while under fire.
Vanesco is a townie dude, he really seems to care about his arguments and making people answer his questions.
Ceph... seems town. I can't sense any dishonesty coming from that guy. However, out of all my reads this is the one I'm the most apprehensive about.
Sn0 imo is pretty obviously town but I can understand why people think he's not. I don't think he'd appear as comfortable posting as he does if this were his first real scum game.
ET.. I would have called him town without hesitation at the end of D1 for being one of the few who were around at deadline and actually discussed things instead of dropping off their vote at the last minute. However I'm kinda pissed that he's gone silent since the lynch. He is mostly town in my mind but he needs to return in full force asap
rayn.. jesus idk... I think I change my mind about him more often than I do about any other player. WoS you will hate this, but ironically you are the one who makes me go from ":scum" to "who knows" on rayn for now, because of that comment you made about how I should already know that town rayn is kinda crazy. I'm gonna take a pass on this one and not even give you guys a read because it'd probably be a bs read and very likely to change very soon.
umasi, I must have a mental block on this guy because I can never remember anything he posts. I have him as town in my notes but I can't remember the feeling I got that made me write that, so I'm gonna call him null
OO is scum dandelion from BEMMII. I am going to park my vote on this guy for D2 until he decides to actually explain his reads instead of writing "fake" cases.
Syl scum? Maybe. Actually, probably. Mainly by process of elimination, but also because of the inordinate amount of sad faces he posts. I shoulda lynched him instead of gumshoe after changing my mind about hzflank.
Soooooo I only have 2 people picked for scum, which means that my reads are probably horribly fucked up.
OH FUCK I skipped Onegu, he must be 3rd scum. Case closed. (Actually I AM leaning scum on him right now for reasons I gave a few posts ago)
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I know what you're saying. But one of the main reasons I was initially suspicious of rayn was because of what I perceived to be a crazy and insane fixation on ET. Once you reminded me that he can do that as town, which he has done to me, I could no longer think he's scum because of that tunnel. There have been times where I was sure of him being scum and times where I was sure of the opposite, which is why for now I am refusing to give my read on rayn until I come to a decision I'm more confident about.
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On November 07 2013 05:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Also scum Dandel doesn't do anything. Literally. OO is nothing like that.
Then go read a few pages starting from here. Everything he does leads up to a bigass case which ended up being "fake." Throughout the ordeal he was being purposefully antagonistic. Whenever someone tries to argue with OO in this game he responds by puffing up his chest and acting like he's above it all. How is that not exactly like scum dandel? he may have more "content" but I can't give him credit for that because it all ended up being for nothing anyways.
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On November 07 2013 05:17 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2013 05:12 thrawn2112 wrote: I know what you're saying. But one of the main reasons I was initially suspicious of rayn was because of what I perceived to be a crazy and insane fixation on ET. Once you reminded me that he can do that as town, which he has done to me, I could no longer think he's scum because of that tunnel. There have been times where I was sure of him being scum and times where I was sure of the opposite, which is why for now I am refusing to give my read on rayn until I come to a decision I'm more confident about. I didn't mention Rayn's attack on ET at all when I was pushing him last night and you said you agreed with me. It was actually regarding his attitude around the time of lynch that you agreed with me I believe.
On November 06 2013 12:34 WaveofShadow wrote: See this, I like. One comment though; if you know Rayn at all you know his tunnel potential is massive, so I wouldn't necessarily call that alignment indicative in his case.
Yes, this was a comment about some stuff I said about rayn tunneling ET. I don't want to argue about this though because it's pretty stupid.
About the attitude after the lynch, I'm no longer holding that against him. He came back into the thread and wrote a huge rant that seemed completely genuine regardless of if rayn had the right to complain. So yeah, he might be wrong to have that attitude (which I don't care to debate) but that doesn't make him mafia. Townies have egos and I would argue that rayn's stance looks more like townie ego than fake scum ego.
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On November 07 2013 05:21 WaveofShadow wrote: Actually hold on a sec thrawn. I just realized something really bad. Why would you be comparing scum dandel meta to scum OO meta? Are they the same person for some reason? Like...that just seems so ridiculous to me. If you're going to consider OO scummy for his actions leave the random-ass meta comparison out of it. You're so lucky I think you're town 'cause that gets a big ugh from me
it's partly a joke
but I don't think it's as bad a comparison you make it out to be. I think they are similar in that both OO and dandel like to have fun while playing mafia and try to inset humor where they can. The towny humor comes across as good clean fun while scummy humor comes across as annoying, frustrating, trollish, etc. I''m a little familiar with OO's town play and how he talks in general. Usually his posts are funny, but not this game. I haven't laughed at any of his jokes thus far and he's gone out of his way to piss people off all game. The change from light-hearted trolling to malicious scummy trolling is what I'm trying to point out by referencing scum dandelon.
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##vote:Sylencia
honestly i have no clue right now and I need to rethink almost everything
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