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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 19:07 GMT
#624
That was a prettttty lazy vote Umasi. Have you not read anything that's happened since that case? I don't think ET is anywhere close to being lynched today so you're gonna have to find someone else.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 19:44 GMT
#629
I've been reading hzflank and it's hard to come to a conclusion because he's rarely done anything to draw attention to himself. Yeah, I know that's supposed to be a scumread but there are only a few things in his filter I have issue with so I'm still hesitant on this one.

There was one time earlier in the game where he made me think "wtf?" while we were talking about sn0:

On November 05 2013 08:49 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 08:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hey hzflank, what do you think about sn0's play so far? Disregard the specifics of who said what or who accused who of what, I want you to casually read his filter and describe to me his tone, attitude, etc.


When I read him earlier, his tone was very fun. His attitude was casual, dare I say he seemed to be enjoying the game. At times you might think he has a idgaf attitude, but then he makes a few posts and you reseal that he is in fact invested in the current game.


On November 05 2013 09:13 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 08:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 05 2013 08:49 hzflank wrote:
On November 05 2013 08:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hey hzflank, what do you think about sn0's play so far? Disregard the specifics of who said what or who accused who of what, I want you to casually read his filter and describe to me his tone, attitude, etc.


When I read him earlier, his tone was very fun. His attitude was casual, dare I say he seemed to be enjoying the game. At times you might think he has a idgaf attitude, but then he makes a few posts and you reseal that he is in fact invested in the current game.


This is almost exactly what I've been thinking. Don't all of these things hint of green and not red? How do you reconcile his general townie behavior with the things you think he's done that are scummy?


For the time being, I ignore how he posts and focus on what he posts. He hides behind how he posts, and when he posts more content he will be easier to read.



The context of this is that hzflank was calling sn0 scum, I disagreed. I asked hz to characterize sn0's play, and he characterized it EXACTLY how I would have done, basically agreeing with me that sn0's general attidue and posting style strongly suggests that he's town. Yet when I asked hzflank how he reconciles this with his sn0 scum read he responded by basically saying he's ignoring all the townie things about sn0, that sn0 is just hiding behind what appears to be extremely stereotypical casual "idgaf" townie behavior. I'd expected him to at least reconsider his postion but the fact that he didn't do so is odd.

Other than that I don't have much, except I don't like how on pg2 of his filter he wrote up a decently sized post calling sylencia "probably scum" but it doesn't look like he's interested in thinking about a syl lynch or that he cares to convince anyone of syl's scumminess. And he doesn't talk about syl anymore after that which I think is weird considering how he calls syl "probably scum."

thoughts? also who is gonna be around for the lynch?

Umasi.... it's time to reconsider. Many of the people who are going to be around to make a lynch happen aren't people who are considering voting for ET.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 19:58 GMT
#636
sn0man where u at
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 19:59 GMT
#638
On November 06 2013 04:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
here why?


lol idk

apparently we are playing mafia?

and supposedly there is an instant majority lynch deadline coming up soon?

both of these assumptions lead me to believe that now is a time for urgency
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 20:14 GMT
#642
4) Sylencia
6) gumshoe
8) Umasi (idk)
11) hzflank
13) raynpelikoneet (town?)

my bet is on lotsss of scum in this group. most unsure about rayn, followed by umasi

I came to this list mostly by PoE, and it amuses me to no end how with the exception of Umasi none of the people on that list are around to help secure a lynch

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 20:27 GMT
#645
On November 06 2013 05:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
What about cephiro thrawn?

I read Syl and he seemed genuine, nothing that would make me think he's scum. He isn't right about ET I don't think but that certainly isn't a scumtell.


Don't know.

Actually fuck I just remembered his no-lynch plan. Yeah it's scum favored but I'm not sure that he would be so direct about trying to push a no-lynch, so my first thought after reading that was kinda like "meh, weird but probably town." BUT he's disappeared since which does look pretty bad. The problem is that if he's a townie who wants a no-lynch he's probably gonna look a lot like a scum who wants a no-lynch.

in other words he should get in here and clarify his position
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 20:33 GMT
#647
ok I gotta step out for about an hour, hzflank you know what you need to do
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 21:40 GMT
#663
On November 06 2013 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
oh god you people are dumb. there is nothing wrong with my case and ET answered about none of ot..


what do you think about hzflank and sylencia

ET has put more effort into solving this lynch than most
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 21:42 GMT
#665
On November 06 2013 06:40 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 06:38 Umasi wrote:
On November 06 2013 06:32 hzflank wrote:
On November 06 2013 06:26 Umasi wrote:
idk, the last post by hzflank does not look scummy though, he asserts that he doesn't want to vote ET, and he backs off on me..
kinda like, a lack of self preservation


Oh don't worry, people's votes on me make no sense, therefore I am relying on them not sticking.

For example, WoS tends to think that people are town when they are reading the game in a similar fashion to him, right? Remember when I pushed you and WoS said "I was going to do that" or when I read Syl and WoS said they he read it the same way I did? WoS does not think I am scum, WoS wants me to be scum because I offended him and/or he saw my ego in full effect when he coached me. His vote can still change.

As for Thrawn and ET, well they are defaulting to me because they have no one better to vote for and they did not like my case on Sn0. The thing is, if you read me carefully you will noticed that my case on Sn0 was never meant to be pushed. In that portion of the game I actually thought that Umasi and ET were scum. The case on Sn0 was an attempt to engage him which failed. The case was also an attempt to make people view him in a more negative light so that I could see what people said about him when he appeared to be a somewhat easy lynch.

People don't really think that I am scum yet still want to lynch me D1. Reminds me of the White flag game that just ended


But there isn't someone else that'll gain enough traction in time, that's my issue. It's not that I think you're scum, you just aren't town enough to warrant a no-lynch.


But on the other hand I guarantee you that there are some people who are present but lurking, since it is deadline time and majority lynch. So there are some people who are present but will just casually go through with my lynch. They'll probably move their votes soon, too.


right now your best chance of living is to explain why you want sylencia to die
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 21:50 GMT
#673
meh i'm not feeling the hz lynch anymore but not like it matters because nobody is fucking here

I miiight consider going for sylencia but i'd have absolutely no reason to other than the hz lynch is making me nervous
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 21:51 GMT
#675
On November 06 2013 06:51 gumshoe wrote:
Yeah I still wanna lynch Onegu, his play just doesnt make sense from a trying townie perspective.

but No lynches kinda suck.

##Unvote

##Vote HZ



LOL

how long have you been lurking
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 21:52 GMT
#678
On November 06 2013 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so why are we lynching hzflank over gumshoe?


lol i'm not

##unvote
##vote:gumshoe
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 21:54 GMT
#683
On November 06 2013 06:53 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 06:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 06 2013 06:51 gumshoe wrote:
Yeah I still wanna lynch Onegu, his play just doesnt make sense from a trying townie perspective.

but No lynches kinda suck.

##Unvote

##Vote HZ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgXM3g7J2Cw


LOL

how long have you been lurking


Like ages, been working on a case but it wont be done before lynch. And no lynch but Hz is happening T_T


quick quick who is the case on? onegu? give us a tldr version
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 21:57 GMT
#692
ceph i'm gonna be pissed if you don't pick a lynch
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 21:59 GMT
#703
On November 06 2013 06:59 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 06 2013 06:55 gumshoe wrote:
You all do realize I could have sat back and watched the no lynch go through / : besides I always ninja vote, get killed for it, and have never once flipped scum. Meh

while this is true, it's not alignment indicative because of HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH! WoS knows what i am talking about.


0_0 I dont think I've ever said that. You come into this game angry with an exceptionally low opinion of me. Your case against me was charged with emotion so I never bothered addressing it. Man I dont have any reason to think your scum, but theres more than enough evidence to prove that your being a dick.


pretend ur about to get lynched what are your last words for town?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 22:02 GMT
#711
lol i still think I prefer that over hzflank tbh
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 22:04 GMT
#715
maybe ceph/syl/whoever
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 22:06 GMT
#720
On November 06 2013 07:04 Sn0_Man wrote:
Lets hope hzflank DOES SOMETHING TODAY.

Also I'm back to my pre-game comments. This setup's wildly scum favoured lol.


I really doubt he's mafia

On November 06 2013 07:03 hzflank wrote:
I'm sorry, but I cannot stop laughing at how that went down. Sorry Gum.


that's something a townie posts in thread, scum would post that in the scum qt
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 22:10 GMT
#722
On November 06 2013 07:06 Cephiro wrote:
.... Yeah. Call me stupid for not stubbornly going against the majority.

Well, at least I showed fellow town I'm ready to co-operate even if I don't completely agree on something. Not sure if that's a good or a bad thing to be honest.

Also I'm gonna go sleep right now to get my rhythm fixed, I'm tired. I'll respond all the "lolcephhammer" -accusations that will surely come in the morning.


Yeah, you wanted no-lynch, I don't think thats preferable to mislynching. The possibilty of an extra blue isn't worth 1 town KP imo. You tried to derail the thread at a critical time by suggesting we no lynch, which is exactly the worst thing that could have happened, then you disappear until it's time to consolidate and you play it off as "oh, if you guys WANT me to, I GUESS I'll vote gumshoe if I HAVE to." As soon as I saw that you were voting for gumshoe I immediately thought he wasn't that likely to flip scum.

Did you really want a no-lynch? Why didn't you let it happen?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 22:35 GMT
#724
Now that I think back on the timing of everything I'm not sure that a scum ceph would have come back to push the mislynch through. Whatever his alignment is we know that he originally wanted a no-lynch, and to me it doesn't seem likely that a scum player wanting no lynch will come in at the last moment to hammer some random player.

I'm gonna be spending some time looking at Syl because I'm intrigued by what hzflank said about how while syl was devoting lots of time to calling out ceph, "Syl never played as if he thought that Ceph was scum, therefore what Syl wrote about Ceph was fake."
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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