|
On November 06 2013 04:20 EchelonTee wrote:
because you unvoted vanesco because it was clear he wont be lynched.
therefore, you must think it is realistic that I will be lynched?
what reasons do you have for me being scum? point out something besides rayn's case.
On November 05 2013 17:52 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 17:47 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 05 2013 17:32 EchelonTee wrote:On November 05 2013 17:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
onegu is town methinks
EchelonTee is there anything you want to talk about respond to my case. since you yourself stated that you prefer to be the center of attention. The list: I was not making a list of who isn't lurking with the promise to attack lurkers. I wasn't even making a list of anti-lurkers. I was making a list of anyone who (including lurkers, obviously) wasn't committing to conversation. So the people not on the list includes both lurkers and people like yourself, who at the time I didn't feel like they'd done anything meaningful. The list even included some people who were borderline lurking but at least had made some type of impression on me. The only purpose of such a list is to hopefully intimidate people not on the list to dip their toes farther into the water. Rayn vote: If you've really gone through my town games like you appear to then you should see my rayn vote is very much like something I'd do. And you're wrong, I do give my reasoning and I do not regret having my vote on rayn. I think if you read all of my posts about rayn then you can see a clear progression of my read. Everything else: Sorry I just don't take the game seriously 100% of the time, especially when I'm bored. LOL btw I looked at one of my cases you linked as evidence of how I can write a serious case, and one of my points against prom was that he wasn't being my friend. That whole post was kinda trollish, I'm kinda wondering why you used that as an example because there are probably a lot better ones to pick from. With you claiming to have done meta research on me yet you can't see my rayn vote coming from a town thrawn makes me think you went looking into my meta already knowing the outcome of your results. You said you would focus on them, but I don't see any focus on you. I did not do intensive meta research. I skimmed your posts, but did not skim rayn's posts. If I missed some huge, obvious interaction that shows that you must be town and rayn believes so, I could back off for now. There might've been better examples but I'm not going to spend hours poring over your meta. I picked the first example I saw that looked like a real case. I don't see you making any real cases and your excuse is that you're bored. I don't know the point of trying harder if it's clear that you don't really care and are too bored to play. If you think I am scum, please state so instead of lightly insinuating it. I'd like to know who you want to lynch, if you're not too bored to say something of use.
I don't understand why you'd hold him to the fact that he said he'd focus lurkers, and when he comes back, he doesn't focus them. I don't think that's scummy at all, he's just responding to whatever he sees fit at the time, and it's not like he was flippantly making a promise as scum to get towncred, I think he'd remember if he was.
Also, your dismissal of a portion of his defense was literally 'I don't want to read hours of your meta.' I can totally understand not wanting to do it, but your refusal of his defense for no reason other than 'I'm too lazy to actually check' is scummy.
Also, you have a higher fucking chance of being lynched than vanesco, considering yourself off the table is just stupid.
+ Show Spoiler +( ' ' ) apostrophes are not actually quotes, just paraphrasals.
|
ebwop:
considering yourself off the table for a lynch is REALLY stupid, you have the most votes. I touch on the other two leading candidates, hzflank and onegu, with my thoughts on them, so it follows that you have a good chance of being lynched, so it's not worthless to focus on you.
|
On November 06 2013 04:44 thrawn2112 wrote:I've been reading hzflank and it's hard to come to a conclusion because he's rarely done anything to draw attention to himself. Yeah, I know that's supposed to be a scumread but there are only a few things in his filter I have issue with so I'm still hesitant on this one. There was one time earlier in the game where he made me think "wtf?" while we were talking about sn0: Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 08:49 hzflank wrote:On November 05 2013 08:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hey hzflank, what do you think about sn0's play so far? Disregard the specifics of who said what or who accused who of what, I want you to casually read his filter and describe to me his tone, attitude, etc. When I read him earlier, his tone was very fun. His attitude was casual, dare I say he seemed to be enjoying the game. At times you might think he has a idgaf attitude, but then he makes a few posts and you reseal that he is in fact invested in the current game. Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:13 hzflank wrote:On November 05 2013 08:51 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 05 2013 08:49 hzflank wrote:On November 05 2013 08:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hey hzflank, what do you think about sn0's play so far? Disregard the specifics of who said what or who accused who of what, I want you to casually read his filter and describe to me his tone, attitude, etc. When I read him earlier, his tone was very fun. His attitude was casual, dare I say he seemed to be enjoying the game. At times you might think he has a idgaf attitude, but then he makes a few posts and you reseal that he is in fact invested in the current game. This is almost exactly what I've been thinking. Don't all of these things hint of green and not red? How do you reconcile his general townie behavior with the things you think he's done that are scummy? For the time being, I ignore how he posts and focus on what he posts. He hides behind how he posts, and when he posts more content he will be easier to read. The context of this is that hzflank was calling sn0 scum, I disagreed. I asked hz to characterize sn0's play, and he characterized it EXACTLY how I would have done, basically agreeing with me that sn0's general attidue and posting style strongly suggests that he's town. Yet when I asked hzflank how he reconciles this with his sn0 scum read he responded by basically saying he's ignoring all the townie things about sn0, that sn0 is just hiding behind what appears to be extremely stereotypical casual "idgaf" townie behavior. I'd expected him to at least reconsider his postion but the fact that he didn't do so is odd. Other than that I don't have much, except I don't like how on pg2 of his filter he wrote up a decently sized post calling sylencia "probably scum" but it doesn't look like he's interested in thinking about a syl lynch or that he cares to convince anyone of syl's scumminess. And he doesn't talk about syl anymore after that which I think is weird considering how he calls syl "probably scum." thoughts? also who is gonna be around for the lynch? Umasi.... it's time to reconsider. Many of the people who are going to be around to make a lynch happen aren't people who are considering voting for ET.
I'll be around for the lynch, so if by that time ET still hasn't gained traction, I'll vote for hzflank. Unless he isn't getting voted either. It's kinda weird that he voted me and has sat on it for a while now, although I felt like he had an okay progression of suspicion on me to justify it.
I gotta go to class, be back around 20 minutes before lynch.
|
On November 06 2013 04:49 EchelonTee wrote:
So you didn't read the last page or so, or are simply ignoring parts of it. I acknoledged the problems with my meta analysis and unvoted. Your actions are quite telling though.
I don't consider myself unlynchable, but you are not talking logically. I have 3 votes. 1 more than people with 2 votes. Saying I have "the most votes" is like a marketing tactic.
Why didn't you recognize the problems with it RIGHT THEN
now I'm actually afk.
|
On November 06 2013 05:01 Sn0_Man wrote:its not instant majority its just majority. theres nobody here to bother u and ET are prolly both town and umasi fucked off (plus I've mislynched that guy before he's never useful so its hard for me to call him scum based on being crap). I wanted to sheep u but ur like "well lets vote this guy but i'm like 100% unsure on him" cant u find me scum? 
Are you talking about me you've mislynched?
You've never mislynched me.
|
|
|
idk, the last post by hzflank does not look scummy though, he asserts that he doesn't want to vote ET, and he backs off on me..
kinda like, a lack of self preservation
|
I hope onegu gets back and votes someone not himself T>T
|
On November 06 2013 06:32 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 06:26 Umasi wrote:
idk, the last post by hzflank does not look scummy though, he asserts that he doesn't want to vote ET, and he backs off on me..
kinda like, a lack of self preservation Oh don't worry, people's votes on me make no sense, therefore I am relying on them not sticking. For example, WoS tends to think that people are town when they are reading the game in a similar fashion to him, right? Remember when I pushed you and WoS said "I was going to do that" or when I read Syl and WoS said they he read it the same way I did? WoS does not think I am scum, WoS wants me to be scum because I offended him and/or he saw my ego in full effect when he coached me. His vote can still change. As for Thrawn and ET, well they are defaulting to me because they have no one better to vote for and they did not like my case on Sn0. The thing is, if you read me carefully you will noticed that my case on Sn0 was never meant to be pushed. In that portion of the game I actually thought that Umasi and ET were scum. The case on Sn0 was an attempt to engage him which failed. The case was also an attempt to make people view him in a more negative light so that I could see what people said about him when he appeared to be a somewhat easy lynch. People don't really think that I am scum yet still want to lynch me D1. Reminds me of the White flag game that just ended 
But there isn't someone else that'll gain enough traction in time, that's my issue. It's not that I think you're scum, you just aren't town enough to warrant a no-lynch.
|
On November 06 2013 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is therea case on hz because i can't find it. And if we need to "consolidate" 20 hours before the lynch and the defences to cases after that will be "you are not going to get me lynched because look, there are no votes on me" this game will be really shit.
that's the thing, there really isn't.
|
On November 06 2013 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so why are we lynching hzflank over gumshoe?
Not enough people would switch.
I'm down for a gumshoe lynch.
|
|
|
On November 06 2013 06:54 Cephiro wrote:
Fuck, I dozed off. X_X
So suddenly people want a gumshoe lynch? I really don't like the idea of that tbh.
Do you prefer it over hzflank?
|
|
|
so I think that onegu is town, purely by feel, and would rather see votes on other people. I had a good feeling about hz at the end of d1, but since then it's been *shrug*, will keep relatively close track of koshi.
Kinda leery of hopeless/et atm, but not that much.
Not sure about rayn, but there are other people I prefer to lynch.
I have sylencia as town still, but I've kind of slept on him for a while.
I still like a vanesco lynch, can we lynch him?
On November 07 2013 17:18 Vanesco wrote:
After me trying to ask why people decided to vote on gumshoe in the last few minutes of the day I only got 2 responses (by thrawn and rayn). Mostly everybody else has been kinda lurking up to this point and still hasn't given a reason for their vote on gumshoe. I still believe that most likely that scum was involved in the vote since i don't think 7/9 townies would instantly change their vote which is why the reasons for switching your votes is really important in my opinion.
Out of the 7 who voted on gumshoe I feel like the most scummy are umasi and sno_man.
For those who are wondering why thrawn isn't there is because I do not think he is as scummy as I did last time. Ever since night 1 he has been posting well in my opinion. Another reason why is because of what I found suspicious at first, that he kinda deflected off of hzflank and started the vote on gumshoe. The more I think of it it makes me lean more town on him each time.
The argument still stands if they are both scum, but it would have been a big risk to take, but still a possibility. I don't see the scenario working if thrawn was scum and hzflank was town, that he would poke his head so far out to vote on gumshoe when all that was needed was 1 more vote on hzflank. And if thrawn is town, regardless of hzflanks alignment, he thought that gumshoe was a better vote as explained in his reasoning.
He says that he thinks both sno and I are scummy, but doesn't pursue it at all, he just addresses why thrawn ISN'T listed. feels like he was throwing something out there to throw something out there.
On November 07 2013 17:27 Vanesco wrote:
I'm also disliking all of this meta talk. While meta is good as a guideline I think people are going to much in this line of talk "well since he plays like this and this game he is playing slightly differently then he obviously must be the opposite role he was last game". Some meta talk is fine but some pages are just filled with mostly meta talk. What about some game related topics like the votes, OO's death at night and any suspicions he had on people and any people he put in the town zone. It seems many people are ignoring these greatly and if we do so then it puts town almost back into the same position as it was in day 1 with some extra reads and 2 townies dead.
'I dislike meta talk'
proceeds to talk about meta
##vote: vanesco
|
they sure are fricken weird! then again, I'm the poster boy for vanescos guiltiness. (I'll consolidate again vote wise, but he never became my not #1 scum read, and largely little has happened regarding him.)
regarding onegu, the entire fuck it attitude out of the thread day one and self vote, specifically, makes me read him as town, because in my limited experience with him, he'd try much much harder as scum. He has played through more dire circumstances (and somewhat successfully) than this, so it'd be weird for him to just up and quit as scum. idc if there's a precedent for the self VOTE, but it's more than that, it's just his capitulation felt premature, more premature than scum onegu would do.
then again, I've only played one game with him where he was scum, sooooooooooo maybe I'm wrong!
just my thoughts.
|
the first two lines are regarding vanesco, I never hit the return key to put the line break between the two trains of thought.
|
##unvote
##vote umasi
peace bros, I'm out.
Suddenly I'm town? of course not.
##unvote
##vote: vanesco
the circumstance surrounding his self vote, not just the fact that he self voted, make me think he's town, but only when compared to what I know of his scum play.
|
yeah idunno.
felt legit to me, although it's certainly not a logical conclusion.
all in all 3/10 would vote to secure majority majority but won't push.
(most people are 3/10s on the scale)
|
I still think Sylencia is townie, especially with the clear progression of thought regarding cephiro.
So much of my van case is due to the first few posts. Basically, look at my first four posts in the game (or so), that sums up my case on him :| (and then the recent one).
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
